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AIBU or is Brother being a Billy big balls?

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NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 22:45

DF has a significant birthday much later this year, late October..DB contacted me to ask if I'd go in on a weekend stay for DF and DM somewhere as gift. I didn't reply immediately, got a sarky tumbleweed gif 16 hours later. Responded with 'sounds good'. I didn't commit, I basically had a million and one other things in my mind, not a birthday 8 months away.
He went ahead and booked it, nowt to pay until a week before, so free cancellation. But it's £440.
Now, we are higher earners than DB and his wife, but, live in a much more expensive part of the country, huge mortgage, we have two teens, they're child free. We all grew up poor, so whilst we are still budget supermarket shoppers and have one crappy car, we have one nice holiday w eye couple of years and don't have to worry about bills. We are in a much better position than many, but we are still careful, but for the grace of god and all that.
We don't spend money like that on birthdays. Nor do my parents. They gave me £50 fory 40th.
I said I'd need to speak to DH. DB immediately started messaging that it shouldn't be a problem, I had months to save and they spent £300 on one night for DM's last big birthday etc.
He was unquestionably rude.
I have a very strained but civil relationship with my parents. He is geographically and emotionally much closer. I moved out a few weeks after my 18th, moved country and never went back to live. He lived with them until he was 32. Largely rent free. I get why he wants to spoil them. Although he really doesn't have the money.
We value time and experiences together over money. He is about what looks good on Instagram primarily.
I left it as no rush, we will consider it. He has now, 2 days later, said don't worry if you're going to be petty, we will pay for the whole stay. I replied saying probably for the best. We will sort something else. Not to mention, if we visit, we have to pay for plane tickets, hire car, airport parking and dog boarding before we even get there.
He clearly thinks I'm pathetic and tight.

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MugsyBalonz · 01/03/2025 22:48

I would reply to say that the trip isn't going to work for you because of logistics which is why you needed to speak to DH before booking, to see if it would be workable, and unfortunately it is not.

TourangaLeila · 01/03/2025 22:52

Just say, no. "no I'm not spending that kind of money"

End of. Then buy a gift you'd prefer to give.

ExtraOnions · 01/03/2025 22:54

So .. did you not want to go halves because it’s too expensive, or, because you have a strained relationship with your parents, or, because your brother booked it ?

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 22:55

I already responded saying great, good idea that you sort it. We will do something else.
He was definitely spoiling for a fight, but I'm much more controlled than I was when I was younger. 10 years ago I would have pleased with him not to think badly if next or over explained that we need a full heating system. The reality is, we COULD find the additional money. But I don't want to. I think that spending that on my father's birthday is ridiculous.
I know people who do and that's great. They're often showing love or gratitude. That isn't right for me and I don't want to be bullied into it

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NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 22:56

ExtraOnions · 01/03/2025 22:54

So .. did you not want to go halves because it’s too expensive, or, because you have a strained relationship with your parents, or, because your brother booked it ?

Not bothered that he had booked it. I think it's too expensive and I don't have a relationship where we do those that level of present.
I'd fobbed brother odd, not for one second thinking he would actually book it 8 months in advance (mid week, low season break).

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Isittimeformynapyet · 01/03/2025 22:57

Well, you sound like you've made up your mind and are perfectly happy with your decision OP.

Where do we come into this?

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 23:00

Isittimeformynapyet · 01/03/2025 22:57

Well, you sound like you've made up your mind and are perfectly happy with your decision OP.

Where do we come into this?

Fair point. I think I have somehow over and under explained.
Am I being tight? Is it normal to spend £££ on parents birthdays rather than give a smaller, hopefully thoughtful gift, if technically you COULD afford it?

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Astronautstar · 01/03/2025 23:01

I think you're at fault because you gave the go ahead by saying "Sounds good," but didn't put any boundaries around what you were agreeing to or allow a conversation where you'd have involvement with the plan.

Your post seems quite mean spirited. I would have found the lack of response from you rude. You seem very quick to judge your brother's behaviour without really giving him an opportunity to have a more positive interaction with you. And you dismiss his kindness as just for show when I doubt you know or like him enough to do that from an informed position.

hideawayforever · 01/03/2025 23:02

When you said to your brother "sounds good' he probably took it that you agreed to go halves....
I would have done too. so yabu for now saying no.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 01/03/2025 23:02

YABU and you caused confusion.

Astronautstar · 01/03/2025 23:04

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 22:55

I already responded saying great, good idea that you sort it. We will do something else.
He was definitely spoiling for a fight, but I'm much more controlled than I was when I was younger. 10 years ago I would have pleased with him not to think badly if next or over explained that we need a full heating system. The reality is, we COULD find the additional money. But I don't want to. I think that spending that on my father's birthday is ridiculous.
I know people who do and that's great. They're often showing love or gratitude. That isn't right for me and I don't want to be bullied into it

No one is bullying you though. You literally agreed to a suggestion. If you didn't mean it that's on you.

Byebyechicken · 01/03/2025 23:04

Why didn't you tell your brother months ago when he first mentioned it, that you didn't want to spend that much?
In your brothers position, I'd have assumed you'd discussed his proposal with your husband during the 16 hours it took you to reply.
To then not clarify one way or another for months absolutely baffles me!
He may not have to pay until a week before but it may take him considerably longer than a week to save enough. He was also left with the impression that you thought it was a good idea by your initial response.
Why not just explain straightaway that you wouldn't be contributing instead of keeping him in limbo for months?

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 23:05

Byebyechicken · 01/03/2025 23:04

Why didn't you tell your brother months ago when he first mentioned it, that you didn't want to spend that much?
In your brothers position, I'd have assumed you'd discussed his proposal with your husband during the 16 hours it took you to reply.
To then not clarify one way or another for months absolutely baffles me!
He may not have to pay until a week before but it may take him considerably longer than a week to save enough. He was also left with the impression that you thought it was a good idea by your initial response.
Why not just explain straightaway that you wouldn't be contributing instead of keeping him in limbo for months?

Not sure where you're getting the months from? It was suggested the other day.
He sent a voice note, which I didn't listen to straight away and then didn't respond to immediately when I did listen as I was processing.

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Astronautstar · 01/03/2025 23:07

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 23:05

Not sure where you're getting the months from? It was suggested the other day.
He sent a voice note, which I didn't listen to straight away and then didn't respond to immediately when I did listen as I was processing.

He suggested it 8 months ago, you've said. He gave you the details and asked for the contribution you'd assented to the other day. Edited to add: this is incorrect. The event is in eight months time. The time frame for this whole situation has been days.

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 23:09

I take the point that I caused the confusion. That is fair. I obviously don't want to post the exact message he sent.
I also haven't given context to the kind of person he is. Our relationship is strained. I know it's not me, long story based on how our entire family attended/didn't attend his wedding a while back.
I should have been clearer in my response.
But the question I'm asking really is, AIBU for not wanting to spend £220 on a birthday. But I guess that is entirely subjective. So this is a pointless thread
I find it very difficult to distill all the salient points without it being a massive ramble. I guess I need to stop asking!

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NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 23:10

Astronautstar · 01/03/2025 23:07

He suggested it 8 months ago, you've said. He gave you the details and asked for the contribution you'd assented to the other day. Edited to add: this is incorrect. The event is in eight months time. The time frame for this whole situation has been days.

Edited

No, he didn't. It is in 8 months time

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Devianinc · 01/03/2025 23:10

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 22:45

DF has a significant birthday much later this year, late October..DB contacted me to ask if I'd go in on a weekend stay for DF and DM somewhere as gift. I didn't reply immediately, got a sarky tumbleweed gif 16 hours later. Responded with 'sounds good'. I didn't commit, I basically had a million and one other things in my mind, not a birthday 8 months away.
He went ahead and booked it, nowt to pay until a week before, so free cancellation. But it's £440.
Now, we are higher earners than DB and his wife, but, live in a much more expensive part of the country, huge mortgage, we have two teens, they're child free. We all grew up poor, so whilst we are still budget supermarket shoppers and have one crappy car, we have one nice holiday w eye couple of years and don't have to worry about bills. We are in a much better position than many, but we are still careful, but for the grace of god and all that.
We don't spend money like that on birthdays. Nor do my parents. They gave me £50 fory 40th.
I said I'd need to speak to DH. DB immediately started messaging that it shouldn't be a problem, I had months to save and they spent £300 on one night for DM's last big birthday etc.
He was unquestionably rude.
I have a very strained but civil relationship with my parents. He is geographically and emotionally much closer. I moved out a few weeks after my 18th, moved country and never went back to live. He lived with them until he was 32. Largely rent free. I get why he wants to spoil them. Although he really doesn't have the money.
We value time and experiences together over money. He is about what looks good on Instagram primarily.
I left it as no rush, we will consider it. He has now, 2 days later, said don't worry if you're going to be petty, we will pay for the whole stay. I replied saying probably for the best. We will sort something else. Not to mention, if we visit, we have to pay for plane tickets, hire car, airport parking and dog boarding before we even get there.
He clearly thinks I'm pathetic and tight.

There’s a lot of threads lately where people seem to have no problem using or expecting other people’s money. It’s crazy. No body tell you where your money goes but you.

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 23:11

Devianinc · 01/03/2025 23:10

There’s a lot of threads lately where people seem to have no problem using or expecting other people’s money. It’s crazy. No body tell you where your money goes but you.

This.^ this is what I'm trying to say, but did so clumsily.
Yes, I COULD find this money. But I equally COULD find the money for some designer shoes and yet, I don't choose to.

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Byebyechicken · 01/03/2025 23:14

No, I wouldn't spend that amount of money on my parents (or my siblings tbh). Personally, I don't know anyone who would!
Your discomfort at spending that amount is telling you it doesn't work for you.
No, you are not tight!

rookiemere · 01/03/2025 23:15

OP you responded "sounds good " to your DB.

Any reasonable person would take that as agreement, so it's no great surprise your DB booked it.

And now you're rescinding on your agreement, he has obviously decided it's easier just to pay for it than have any hassle. Frankly I don't blame him.

Normally I am a great proponent of other people not spending your money, but the way it reads and bearing in mind this is from your point of view, I think your DB did his best in a tricky situation.

Devianinc · 01/03/2025 23:16

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 23:00

Fair point. I think I have somehow over and under explained.
Am I being tight? Is it normal to spend £££ on parents birthdays rather than give a smaller, hopefully thoughtful gift, if technically you COULD afford it?

But do you want to go. If your being forced then that’s not fun.

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 23:16

rookiemere · 01/03/2025 23:15

OP you responded "sounds good " to your DB.

Any reasonable person would take that as agreement, so it's no great surprise your DB booked it.

And now you're rescinding on your agreement, he has obviously decided it's easier just to pay for it than have any hassle. Frankly I don't blame him.

Normally I am a great proponent of other people not spending your money, but the way it reads and bearing in mind this is from your point of view, I think your DB did his best in a tricky situation.

The sounds good was to a general principle. I thought we might research options and make a choice together.

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Winterjoy · 01/03/2025 23:16

Do you actually know what is being booked/seen the price directly? With the strained relationships all round and you being the higher earner is it possible you're paying the lions share of the gift without realising (and that's why it seems so much?)

NomadicEthusiasm · 01/03/2025 23:17

Devianinc · 01/03/2025 23:16

But do you want to go. If your being forced then that’s not fun.

I wouldn't be going anywhere. It would be paying to send my parents

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sourpuss23 · 01/03/2025 23:17

I think this is all very subjective and complex op. It surrounds you and your family dynamics which nobody here will understand like you do. Of course some people would spend that amount on their parents without a second thought. You don't want to and that's fine. You have your reasons.

I do think it would have been better to communicate more clearly with your db originally though. You say he was spoiling for a fight but maybe he just wanted a quick response so he could go ahead and book something.