To think Trump is right

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Watching the press conference last night which descended into an argument

I can't help think Trump was right and made good points

Thousands of troops are dying and being seriously injured every month

Trump wants it to stop

There are thousands of people who have children alive today who will not be alive tomorrow because of this war

They are clearly in a stalemate and soldiers are now dying untill peace terms are made as no side can win on the battlefield

Trump as brutal as it sounds was being realistic about what peace would be like

Ukraine has to be realistic

If Ukraine sign the rare earth deal with America then America will have a stake in Ukraine and they should then get a better security deal

Trump has not agreed what that is yet, it's clear he wants the European's to form a big part of that

The European's want American troops and for good reason

But this has to stop and the only way it will stop is by peace negotiations

And these have to be realistic and Trump is saying it as it is

Trump and his muppet of a VP, turned on Zelenskyy when he had the guts to ask them “what kind of diplomacy so you want Mr Vance” and pointed out how Zelenskyy signed a peace deal with Russia when he came to power and how Putin has gone against this deal.
Trump and Vance hated the fact Zelenski was right and they looked like idiots so the nasty pair of bullies turned on a man who has more integrity and leadership in his little finger than the whole of Trump and his government.

oh please the EU is totally incapable of conducting a war without the US and the UK.

your naivety is astounding.

They heard the interview. They are anti Putin.

People aren't stupid. They know Russia is an aggressor and that America is sliding towards communism.

No one has to wear a suit in interviews but it helps get the job

They don't. For the Zelensky/Trump meeting, they got it from the White House press feed.

Trump is a horrible man.

I remember how bad it was when trump was last in power.

It felt like everyone in the whole world gor nastier and meaner.

As that's what trump promotes.

The way he spoke to zelensky today was so rude and nasty. People will now start to copy trump.

Blame the victim. It's the victims fault etc

No because you said he wants a Ukraine out of NATO etc... he doesn't want a Ukraine or the Baltic states... they will become a part of Russia.

So why do you think he would stop there? many former NATO generals didn't think he would invade Ukraine.

There is everything to suggest he would go further, once the US is out of it, its going to be very hard to stop him... even Finland but certainly more former USSR states.

@Perplexed20 except even eccomics Kiev guy thinks it's a good deal for Ukraine

The UK is not one of the most powerful countries in Europe anymore.

Countries outside the UK, in Europe, usually describe the UK as a shitshow.

Communism! What movie are you watching? 😂

Jesus Christ!

You clearly watched a completely different press conference to the vast majority of the rest of us.

If you're going to fuck off, would you mind not gouging Ukraine on the way out?

Finally someone who knows what's going on! Thank you! It's not as simple as "the BBC told me to hate Trump so everything he does is bad." There are complex military and strategic considerations to all of this.

What Zelensky wants, which is the US military going toe to toe with the Russians on Ukrainian soil, will cause WWIII. So the US isn't going to let it happen.

When you an invited guest and you need yours hosts help you wear a suit. Everyone other person in that room wore a suit. It’s performative to wear a sweatshirt all the time. What is wrong with a suit??

Elon musk never wears a suit when he meets trump

What do you think will happen the next time Russia wants to expand?

Then all of a sudden we are in a Russian speaking Europe.

True he didn't wear a suit 😂maybe I'm wrong but I don't think they made them in his time.

Not exactly generic and can give a reliable visual representation of what can be achieved.

You can get the stats from accurate sources (Ausairpower) for one is great. Army Recognition another. US ODIN is another one as an open source one stop shop for the US military.

Not meaningless. Again the ranges are accurate show what the actual missile engagement zones are. For the SA-21 with the upgraded missiles that is 400km. Draw 400km around the Russian mainland and it gives a good idea on their coverage.
Those ranges don't take into consideration the additional range of the related equipment, for example the CHEESE BOARD target acquisition RADAR that will track the targets prior to that 400km range. Before that you have the early warning RADARs. The range on them would allow Russia to pretty much know when aircraft potentially take off from their homebases.

And in an aviation environment, they definitely aren't meaningless. Those ranges will be taken into consideration when formulating flight plans, altitude and orbit. And in any environment where there is an increased threat, they will not operate or fly within the missile engagement zone (seen from experience). Again that can fully change the flight plan and alter whatever type of sortie was planned.
In peace time when their is no intent or threat, then obviously they'll operate within it.

So what are your thoughts on elon musk never wearing a suit

Trump is such a bully boy. He loves shouting at people.

If you're going to fuck off, would you mind not gouging Ukraine on the way out?

@OneLemonDog our 30k peacekeepers aren't much more than a symbolic gesture for home audiences

We'd need actual military stock see @BigDecisionWorthIt posts

Elon musk is one of the richest men in the world! He isn't going cap in hand to Trump.

Look at you, such a sad little busy expert who has no idea about politics in general, but likes to pretend that the UK is one of the most powerful countries in the world.