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AIBU?

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To not let MIL babysit

327 replies

loulalole · 28/02/2025 22:17

My in laws are ok people, definitely nothing as dramatic as some of the things I’ve read on here, but we do not get on particularly well. It was more like death by a thousand paper-cuts than one big falling out, so whilst I can give examples of things they’ve done here, each on their own they aren’t too significant. But over years and years of them being like this to me… the relationship just isn’t there anymore.

My husband and I have a 3-year-old daughter, and lately, my in-laws have been pushing hard to babysit her alone, which I am completely against. They see her about once a month, either at our place or theirs, but I’m always present. They, however, seem determined to carve out alone time. At first, it was framed as a treat for us: “Why don’t you two go for lunch? We’ll watch her!” and when I explained that there’s no need, she has a nanny / housekeeper / my helper (I received a very large inheritance early which means that I am lucky enough to afford paid childcare and help around the house, whilst I am a SAHM, my DH is not paying for this) who can look after my daughter perfectly, knows how I want things done and does them to a standard we’re happy with, it turned into “but we want to have a go, we want time alone with her, we are grandparents so we deserve to”.

MIL’s even bigger wish is an overnight stay. But I’ve never left my daughter for a night, and I have zero need or desire to. And honestly, what do they want to do with her that they can’t do while we’re there? On top of that, I don’t trust them to follow instructions (what to feed her, when to sleep, what not to give her, what she’s allowed to do and what she isn’t) and really don’t see the need.

And just to paint a picture of what they’re like:
1. The first words out of their mouths when we got engaged? “You’re a lucky girl, Lou, aren’t you?”
2. A few days postpartum: “You didn’t have a C-section, did you?! That’s terrible for babies’ lungs.”
3. When we called from the hospital to say I’d just given birth, instead of “Congratulations! How are you feeling?” we got: “We’ll get ready to head over when you get home.” (That assumption locked in my decision: they weren’t visiting for a few days even after we’d got home.)
4. During a rare overnight stay at our house, I asked them to keep things calm before bed. MIL’s response was a breezy “I don’t think that’s necessary!” as she wound my daughter up right before sleep.

Individually, none of these are that bad. But after years of this? I just don’t have it in me to pretend.

OP posts:
Cornflakes44 · 01/03/2025 12:44

I wouldn't leave my child with them alone under these circumstances. If she was really that committed to a relationship with her grandchild then she could respect your wishes and earn your trust. Sounds like she wants it all her way. Stick to your guns.

Gtbb · 01/03/2025 12:49

OP, absolutely not.
They have zero entitlement to your child on their own.

Keep saying not happening.
There are consequences to being unkind to the mother of their grandchild, and for them its that you do not trust them.

Are you happily married? I hope you have kept that inheritance in your name and have legal advice about doing so.

arcticpandas · 01/03/2025 13:14

I think you sound extremely difficult and controlling. I think the inheritance was an unlucky thing for your daughter. Maybe you would have appreciated the gp help otherwise and she could have built a loving relationship with her gp. Instead you're a sahm with a 3 year old and a nanny.. and you're being overly rigid with everything concerning your daughter not allowing gp to have a laugh with her. I feel sorry for your Mil, DD abd DH.

Hazylazydays · 01/03/2025 13:27

Totally agree @arcticpandas

gatheryerosebuds · 01/03/2025 13:49

Cornflakes44 · 01/03/2025 12:44

I wouldn't leave my child with them alone under these circumstances. If she was really that committed to a relationship with her grandchild then she could respect your wishes and earn your trust. Sounds like she wants it all her way. Stick to your guns.

But the MIL is trustworthy in the normal sense of the word. She just wants a few hours to bond with her grandchild child on their own. This is entirely normal!

It's a bit like fathers who only have "supervised contact" with their child under the watchful eye of a supervisor. It's not as fun or as natural as unsupervised contact where they can make cakes together/go to cafes/ the park. But usually the court only orders this if they are unsafe/on drugs/mixing with dangerous people.

MIL makes "off" comments, but there is no suggestion she is "dangerous"

bigboykitty · 01/03/2025 13:52

I think it's a cautionary tale that if you make little or no effort to build a relationship with your DIL, and indeed you interfere and ask intrusive questions about private matters in the relationship, you don't get to rock up a few years later demanding rights to your grandchild. You effectively relinquish those when you choose not to have a relationship with the DIL. And in any case no grandparent has any rights to have a grandchild in their sole care.

Pancakeflipper · 01/03/2025 13:59

My mother didn't like her in-laws but she did let them bond with their grandchildren.

We adored and loved out our grandparents very much and I've very happy memories of days to the seaside, staying over baking, playing cards for 1p's.

I think you should allow a relationship to develop between your child and grandparents (unless abusive etc..). How you do needn't be instant sleepovers but allowing them a couple of hours to bond without you there could bring alot of joy and love for your child

Justsomethoughts23 · 01/03/2025 16:01

loulalole · 28/02/2025 22:44

Paid help knows what she's doing in the best interests of the child, it's her source of income so she tries to do as good as job as she can to retain that source of income. Grandparents seem to treat her like a toy, for their own entertainment and self esteem

Very odd that you think paid help is more likely to have your daughter’s best interests at heart than her own family who love her, whether you get along with them or not. Your paid help could change job at any time without a backward glance; they have no genuine attachment.

Caroparo52 · 01/03/2025 16:38

It sounds like your perspective is clouded by the fact you don't like them for all the 1000 papercut reasons and I get tgst. But for the sake of dc the relationship with a gp is precious and unique. Do it for sake of your dc . Maybe start small. Very small and work up from there...

Gtbb · 01/03/2025 17:28

Nothing precious and unique about the child/grandparent relationship if the grandparent has treated the childs mother badly.

Grandparents are a bonus, but not essential to a happy childhood.

Hollyjollywafflecone · 01/03/2025 17:34

gatheryerosebuds · 01/03/2025 13:49

But the MIL is trustworthy in the normal sense of the word. She just wants a few hours to bond with her grandchild child on their own. This is entirely normal!

It's a bit like fathers who only have "supervised contact" with their child under the watchful eye of a supervisor. It's not as fun or as natural as unsupervised contact where they can make cakes together/go to cafes/ the park. But usually the court only orders this if they are unsafe/on drugs/mixing with dangerous people.

MIL makes "off" comments, but there is no suggestion she is "dangerous"

‘not dangerous’ seems like a low bar for people caring for your children.

thinktwice36 · 01/03/2025 19:03

loulalole · 28/02/2025 22:44

Paid help knows what she's doing in the best interests of the child, it's her source of income so she tries to do as good as job as she can to retain that source of income. Grandparents seem to treat her like a toy, for their own entertainment and self esteem

paid help will never love your child.

gatheryerosebuds · 01/03/2025 19:23

Hollyjollywafflecone · 01/03/2025 17:34

‘not dangerous’ seems like a low bar for people caring for your children.

Oh come on...you know full well what I meant

OK how about she makes off remarks sometimes to her DIL but is extremely loving and attentive to her granddaughter and surprise surprise wants a relationship with her.

LovelyLeitrim · 01/03/2025 19:24

thinktwice36 · 01/03/2025 19:03

paid help will never love your child.

But they’ll follow orders, which OP seems to feel more important.

nc43214321 · 01/03/2025 19:47

OK how about she makes off remarks sometimes to her DIL but is extremely loving and attentive to her granddaughter and surprise surprise wants a relationship with her.

Isn't this showing her daughter that it is okay that people can be nasty to her! Just doesn't sit well with me tbf.

Hollyjollywafflecone · 01/03/2025 21:38

gatheryerosebuds · 01/03/2025 19:23

Oh come on...you know full well what I meant

OK how about she makes off remarks sometimes to her DIL but is extremely loving and attentive to her granddaughter and surprise surprise wants a relationship with her.

But the op has said that isn’t the case either. She’s said they treat dgd like a toy for their entertainment, not like a child. And that they’re emotionally manipulative and demonstrate being rude and unkind to the dgds mum, which doesn’t seem in dgds best interests either.

UhOhTheLegoBroke · 01/03/2025 21:40

I think yabu. They're her grandparents not serial killers. Just because they're rude to you don't mean they're rude to dd.
They'd have a fantastic time.

BustingBaoBun · 01/03/2025 23:04

LovelyLeitrim · 01/03/2025 19:24

But they’ll follow orders, which OP seems to feel more important.

Orders? Is that what grandparents have to do? Follow orders
I would be guided by what the parents of my GC wanted and follow through as much as I could but no. I would not be following orders. I am a grandparent who loves my GC and will do my very best for her or him. But that's it.

Mothership4two · 02/03/2025 02:38

Hollyjollywafflecone · 01/03/2025 21:38

But the op has said that isn’t the case either. She’s said they treat dgd like a toy for their entertainment, not like a child. And that they’re emotionally manipulative and demonstrate being rude and unkind to the dgds mum, which doesn’t seem in dgds best interests either.

I'm sure her OH and ILs have a very different perspective. I highly doubt they treat their dgd 'like a toy', they probably just love her and want to spend time with her - which is natural. At the end of the day, her OH has an equal say and she's not the boss of them (although I have a sneaking feeling that that is how she acts)

LovelyLeitrim · 02/03/2025 04:24

BustingBaoBun · 01/03/2025 23:04

Orders? Is that what grandparents have to do? Follow orders
I would be guided by what the parents of my GC wanted and follow through as much as I could but no. I would not be following orders. I am a grandparent who loves my GC and will do my very best for her or him. But that's it.

I was referring to the hired help.

Poppyseeds79 · 02/03/2025 04:51

Good on you OP! You continue to flex your power because they don't like you. I'm sure your daughter will benefit far more from people being paid to be nice to her than actually loving her.

Commonsense22 · 02/03/2025 06:11

You sound very controlling and of course the GP would like alone time as it must be impossible to relax around you! You expect them to follow your instructions rather than realising it's beneficial for your dd to get spoilt a bit too and loved differently.

You're also exhausting yourself for no reason. Take the rest and enjoy it!

Tunnocksmallow · 02/03/2025 15:26

Mothership4two · 02/03/2025 02:38

I'm sure her OH and ILs have a very different perspective. I highly doubt they treat their dgd 'like a toy', they probably just love her and want to spend time with her - which is natural. At the end of the day, her OH has an equal say and she's not the boss of them (although I have a sneaking feeling that that is how she acts)

I’ve a bit of a suspicion that OP’s very large inheritance and her need to be in control, goes some way to to keeping husbands opinions in line.

JudgeJ · 02/03/2025 16:32

nc43214321 · 01/03/2025 08:17

@LovelyLeitrim Urm the child is hers, therefore she makes the rules! Not the MIL.

Nt 'hers' at all, 'theirs', MN seems to treat men as sperm donors who are only useful when money is needed. If a man had a large inheritance but gave his wife no say in how it should be spent to benefit the family he would rightly be pilloried.

nc43214321 · 02/03/2025 16:36

@JudgeJ sorry theirs not MILs, sounds like OP husband has an opinion but no action or discussion, just looking for an easy option by the sounds of it.

I don't think men are sperm donors but actions speak louder than words.

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