Anyone cancelling their trips/holidays to USA

[Petuniaspetal]

Have to be honest since trump won i wasn't going anyway. But anyone cancelling or going elsewhere?
I have a big birthday this year, I would go to the garbage dump rather than support America,/musk in any way. I know therwmis at least half of America that doesn't.support this shxt and for them I am sorry but for the republicans too spineless and self interested to resist their dictator.trump...not one iota of sympathy for the rising prices loss of Medicaid or medicare.

YABU ..to cancel/Not go
YANBU...wouldn't touch it with a bargepole

The ways in which Trump may remain in office beyond 2028:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/01/31/trump-defy-constitution-third-term-00200239

And the little MAGA weirdos that laugh it off now will go along with it when it happens. They've already betrayed their country by re-elcting Trump after Jan 6, they're just too brainwashed to see it.

I’ll spend my money in a country with a leader who wants to create positive change. Yes Mexico has a horrific history but Claudia Sheinbaum seems to be determined to change its direction and doesn’t take any shit from the likes of Donald Trump to protect the positive future of her country. On the flip side, Donald Trump is on a one man mission to ruin the lives of as many people as possible, domestically and internationally, so that he can line his pockets and the pockets of his corrupt pals. So, no, I won’t spend my money in the US and that’s my prerogative.

I also don’t travel to the likes of Hungary, Russia, the UAE and many other countries that have poor human rights records because I choose to spend my money where feels right for me.

And for all the people saying they can’t believe that people are sacrificing time with their family because of this. Flights work in two directions. My brother is coming to the U.K. three times this year for a few family events. He's also well up for getting out of Florida and travelling somewhere new.

So you were happy during Johnson's tenure were you? What about Truss's brief but disastrous time at No 10? You may not agree with Labour's policies but i'd say it was much much worse under the Tory zealots who forced their stupid, unnecessary and divisive Brexit on us.

It’s nice to know you have “slight reservations” about ethnic cleansing 🤬

Didn't want any of my money going to prop up sexual predators & hard-done-by billionaires lifestyles, especially while federal workers doing essential jobs for society were fired. Took my £14k spend to an African destination instead. Couldn't be happier we did!

You took your 14k holiday spend to Africa instead of the US? Oh yes, because there's absolutely no corruption or human rights abuses in Africa, is there!

The people on this thread who are virtue-signalling about the US and then book holidays to far, far worse countries is astounding!

Most people aren't avoiding the US due to corruption or human rights issues, though. Even if they were, the backslide in the US has veen dramatic, to the point where there are African countries that outperform it on the Democracy Index and the World Press Freedom Index.

Whilst many African countries still do terribly on the Human Rights Index, there are a few that score well (albeit, slightly behind the pre-Trump US).

Haven't been to the US since 2014 when we went to Hawaii for the husband's 65th.

We don't even transit through the US. Flights can be cheaper using US hubs over Canadian. But it's horrible dealing with Homeland Security searches.

As a Canadian, I can't support a nation that wants to annex me and steal our resources. Had a delightful American tell me I should be happy about becoming the 51st state (we were on holiday in Europe). I told him I hope he plans on a long, slow, cold death.

Remember, Hitler and Napoleon were both defeated by the cold winters of Russia. It goes to -40C where I live.

Never had any notion to go to the USA and definitely not now

That's my faith in these indices shot, then.

If people want to make a socially-just holiday choice, and social justice is high on the list of requirements, you're going to struggle to find anywhere as safe and tolerant as the UK.

If people want to use their holiday pounds to protest against the US, they should consider Canada as a great alternative. It's an appropriate choice because of the US tariffs. It's an amazing place to visit; I've been to Montreal and Quebec city and they were wonderful and not like the US at all. It would be great to support them.

I don't know how the World Press Freedom measures things, but the US has a totally free press. I don't see how it could be any more free, so I don't see how it can be less free than another country's, including African ones.

As for the Democracy Index, the US has democratically elected Trump, for better or worse. Trump's executive orders are also within the democratic framework. We might not like them, but all previous presidents have also used executive orders freely. US presidents have always had that power. They're much easier to undo than laws that have been pushed through Congress.

The Constitution has a set of checks and balances written into it so that no one branch of the government is more powerful than the other. The president can’t use an executive order to sidestep those checks and balances, and the president can’t take over powers from other branches, such as the power vested in Congress to pass new statutes or in the courts to invalidate certain laws as unconstitutional.

Many orders do not have any impact until a government agency takes some additional steps. Very often, an executive order requires a federal agency to write a report, undertake an investigation, or promulgate a new regulation. Those steps can often take months, and sometimes years.

There is nothing undemocratic about the US. Not liking the politics and actions of the president that was democratically elected does not equal the country being undemocratic. So I'm taking the Democracy Index with a pinch of salt, I'm afraid. I spend a lot of time in the US and I'm perfectly free to say what I want against the government without fear of retaliation, I have the freedom to carry a gun if I want (I don't, but not the point), and I can make any protest I want, as long as I do it peacefully without hurting others or property. I have 100 percent freedom in the States, as does everyone else who lives there.

@ThisFluentBiscuit A country with a totally free press doesn’t exclude the world’s two largest news agencies from the press pool that follows the head of state and government because they don’t say what the president wants them to. Access to the press pool is now predicated on whether or not you give pro-Trump coverage. Countries with a free press don’t do that.

You must live in a bubble.

People partly going holiday in trends, or because visiting certain places seem aspirational ( like Paris or Rome is for many Americans) and they’re aren’t many Europeans looking at the USA right now as an aspirational place to go.

They also don’t pass new measures saying the white house gets to pick who is allowed to ask the president questions or enable the boyfriend of a pro president member of his team incredibly close access to a head of state in order to belittle him.

"Africa" is not a homogeneous country you muppet!

There are plenty of African countries who are conducting themselves far more democratically than the USA in the United Nations right now. And investing more effectively in the future of their women and children.

And as I said, the choice wasn't made to "virtue signal". The choice was made to prevent my tax dollars (from sales taxes, airline taxes etc) on holiday from being used by the US Treasury to fund even more tax breaks for those earning over $360k a year, while people doing essential jobs well are laid off by the richest bloke in the world.

If you find that morally objectionable, that's on you 🤷🏼‍♀️

Worse is political appointments of Supreme Court judges by presidents. This is clearly where politics can influence the judicial process to favour the political views at the moment. We must hold on to our independent judiciary.

I think posters maybe don’t recognise the glory of the USA . It’s got so much to offer visitors and you can keep politics out of a visit. Many countries have flaws and policies we don’t like. If we cut them all out, the world is a small place.

Canada is great but not as varied as the USA and certainly doesn’t have the great cities and iconic buildings. You would be going to Canada to see different things. We have enjoyed several holidays in Canada but there are elements we enjoy that are missing. We are going to Wyoming in May. Yellowstone NP is not replicated in Canada for example.

However we aren’t planning USA beyond this trip but I’m certainly going in May.

I hope the amazing team at the NPS are able to keep Yellowstone open & safe for you to enjoy this summer @TizerorFizz
The cuts made last month have been completely indiscriminate & will adversely affect visitor safety in many National Park locations, unfortunately.

www.afar.com/magazine/how-nps-layoffs-will-affect-the-national-parks-this-summer

Trump administration shuts out AP simply because they decided to continue calling the Gulf of Mexico by the name it has had for 400 years. AP has every right to do so. The White House has also openly stated that they will pick and choose the press they want, (which they are not allowed to do) and will punish those who won't report favourably. These issues are being currently litigated in courts. This worrisome issue is addressed even in today's issue of the Washington Post. If you call this freedom of press, as previous posters have pointed out, you do live in a bubble. You also seem heavily invested in "educating" everyone on this thread going by the sheer number of posts stating your opinions which you attempt to pass off as facts.

Trump’s opponents see a sweeping crackdown on free speech - The Washington Post

@MeandT Yes I have been reading about it. We are not going on hikes or doing anything where we would get into trouble. We do not agree with what has happened and will be making sure we stay safe, as most people do. We are not in a position to cancel and we are going. It’s been something we have been interested in for 30 years so now is the time. We are staying in one of the NP properties so hopefully it’s still open when we get there!

I also think we have to hold our noses if we encounter bonkers Republicans and move on. If Vance gets in from 2028 then this behaviour will continue. Hopefully the American people won’t do this but I’m not holding out for any improvement for the next decade.

If parks are even open. Under staffed parks are putting visitors at risk, there will come a point that safety and potential for litigation further down the line will need to be assessed.

So you think the whole economy of the park will just be put into mothballs and every business will close? I doubt that.

It depends how bad it gets doesn’t it.

Reduced hours and complete closures are already being discussed.