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JD Vance and Trump are fucking idiots

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Thisandthatandthensome · 28/02/2025 19:09

JD Vance . What an idiot.

Trump narcissistic bully.

Vile men

Unbelievable greed, idiots, bullies, vile men

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Odin2018 · 02/03/2025 12:47

bombastix · 02/03/2025 12:44

@Odin2018 made plenty already. You are just the latest iteration so it's really not necessary to respond to your Russian Chorus.

Like, woah

If that's all you have to say then I don't know why you waste your time posting.
Oh by the way, I am not Russian, have no ties to Russia or Putin, I am not a a Russian bot or even a bot. Happy?
Unless you want to discuss the Ukraine and Russian war, Zelensky, Trump etc, then just do one, pretty please, as people are not here to waste their time discussing spelling mistakes and grammar. Go find a English language discussion group to discuss all that if it is something you are interested in and feel the need to comment on.

bombastix · 02/03/2025 12:48

Washingupdone · 02/03/2025 12:47

It is said that there isn’t much room in the Oval Office therefore, regarding media coverage access was denied to Associated Press, Reuters, HuffPost and the German newspaper Der Tagesspiegel. However they found room for a Russia team to stream live.

Did they? So nice. Where was the popcorn

bombastix · 02/03/2025 12:49

@Odin2018 - why are you posting? I haven't really understood your thinking enough

Arrivals4lucky · 02/03/2025 12:49

Odin2018 · 02/03/2025 12:45

Yep, I hear you. Don't get me wrong. I feel for the Ukranians but if the Americans want to negotiate peace and Zelensky doesn't then Zelensky can choose whatever he wants to do and if America wants to step back and not put in anymore money to fund the war then that's up to them also as it's their money. You can't have it both ways. Peace or continued war. Choose.

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Because it’s that simple.
Personally, I can’t wait until Europe has more autonomy and the US gets their fucking greasy hands off our future, but it’s not going to happen overnight. Trump wants to plunge the world into chaos by being Billy Big Balls.

Llttledrummergirl · 02/03/2025 12:50

ZooAccountant · 02/03/2025 10:36

Or Zelensky action man being rude and inflammatory.....

This is so much rubbish I don't know where to start.
Carping on and lying about footage that we all saw. What did Orwell say in 1984?

bombastix · 02/03/2025 12:50

Arrivals4lucky · 02/03/2025 12:47

Or, I can’t be homophobic, I have a gay cousin… that’s another classic…

Yeah but he's really only gay in a discreet way so it's okay. He's not like one of those gays where you can catch stuff, you know

The above is sarcasm, btw

kattaduck · 02/03/2025 12:54

Odin2018 · 02/03/2025 12:27

So Trump and Vance are supposed to sit there and take what Zelensky said to them without commenting back? Zelensky is a President also, goading another president in his own house - what's with that? Yep, Zelensky acted like an emotional airhead, not a dignatory, and he was scolded. He's been acting like he can just click his fingers and America must cough more and more money without a solid contract as HE holds all the cards! Go figure. What fool lends money without a contract in place? Oh yes, Biden.

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Of course they can comment back.
But yelling and silencing shouldn't have any place in a in a diplomatic press conference. Zelensky didn't do either.

As a politician you can absolutely hate someone's guts and disagree with his political stance but still treat him with respect.
Macron managed to do it with Trump when Trump blatantly laid about European loans. That's what you do as a diplomatic leader.

mrshoho · 02/03/2025 12:55

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-removes-russian-state-media-reporter-oval-office-official-says-2025-02-28/

On the subject of the Russian TASS Reporter, how does anyone unapproved journalist just waltz into the Oval Office and begin recording??

LondonJax · 02/03/2025 12:56

Odin2018 · 02/03/2025 12:27

So Trump and Vance are supposed to sit there and take what Zelensky said to them without commenting back? Zelensky is a President also, goading another president in his own house - what's with that? Yep, Zelensky acted like an emotional airhead, not a dignatory, and he was scolded. He's been acting like he can just click his fingers and America must cough more and more money without a solid contract as HE holds all the cards! Go figure. What fool lends money without a contract in place? Oh yes, Biden.

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Trump and Vance should have had their meeting in private. Like normal people do when they are trying to get a deal signed - not parade visitors in front of mics and cameras. Most normal people hold talks behind closed doors, then do the hand shaking etc., But then, when have Vance and Trump been normal people? I notice the conversation between Trump and Putin wasn't televised - I know it was a phone call but that could have been on speaker phone. So Russia gets a private call, Ukraine gets a public meeting. Classy...

The only reason it was in front of the camera was so that Trump could do his normal big 'I am' .

When Macron corrected Trump earlier in the week about his 'fact' that all the EU money was in the shape of loans and all the US cash was given (both were a mixture), Trump did a stage whisper of 'so you say' or similar. Disrespectful to another President? Or is that OK because this is the President of the USA rambling on as usual.

I personally hopes Zelensky does sign the mineral rights over to Trump. Because then Trump, for all the American public's bleatings about their money being spent overseas, will have to sort out security and stump up tax payers cash to keep those people safe. Not Europe's or Ukraine's responsibility to keep Americans safe - Trump wants them there, Americans can pay for their safety.

After all, one stray missile hitting a US mining facility in Ukraine when Putin doesn't keep his word, would mean the USA would have to step up as 'hurt an American anywhere in the world and you have America to deal with' is the usual chest thumping mantra isn't it.

So if Trump doesn't get security guarantees he's potentially sending his citizens into a volatile zone without protection. Let's see what the good old American public make of that when Putin reneges on his deal.

BreezyShaker · 02/03/2025 12:56

Zelenskyy could have taken the sting out of the conversation at any time but wouldn't stop talking over Trump, that is not the way to get him onside. Also it was clear he was trying to renegotiate the terms in front the camera. The deal had already been agreed (minerals etc) and he tried to change it. He has let Ukraine down.

bombastix · 02/03/2025 12:57

BreezyShaker · 02/03/2025 12:56

Zelenskyy could have taken the sting out of the conversation at any time but wouldn't stop talking over Trump, that is not the way to get him onside. Also it was clear he was trying to renegotiate the terms in front the camera. The deal had already been agreed (minerals etc) and he tried to change it. He has let Ukraine down.

Is that your final answer?

Odin2018 · 02/03/2025 12:57

kattaduck · 02/03/2025 12:54

Of course they can comment back.
But yelling and silencing shouldn't have any place in a in a diplomatic press conference. Zelensky didn't do either.

As a politician you can absolutely hate someone's guts and disagree with his political stance but still treat him with respect.
Macron managed to do it with Trump when Trump blatantly laid about European loans. That's what you do as a diplomatic leader.

Behind close doors it should happened. If Zelensky hadn't goaded them then none of that would have happened in the first place.

Petuniaspetal · 02/03/2025 12:58

Odin2018 · 02/03/2025 12:10

Stop with the racist bull. He has helped out alot of people of colour, backs in university, he is married to a woman of colour. What planet are you on. Stop with the racist bull. It's not working anymore with Trump getting more of the people of colour vote then the left in this last election. No one is buying the whoa is me racist card any longer - they see right through it.

Come back in 3 years time and let's see how America is doing. If I put a bet on I would bet that people as a whole will do better under Trump that under the previous presidency. Will come back to this thread.

Trump took out an ad in a newspaper to get some young black men put to death.

Used to oust blacks from his apartment blocks and replace them with whites.

He had a University took people's money and didn't actually provide anything.

He had a charity took the money didn't give it to the charity, unless you think he was the charity of course.

He has defended kkk, proud boys and their ilk...not exactly 'black friendly'. His cabinet isn't exactly tripping over with black people either...doesnt help that one of his most vocal sidekicks is Stephen Miller that bastion of racial integration.

bombastix · 02/03/2025 12:58

mrshoho · 02/03/2025 12:55

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-removes-russian-state-media-reporter-oval-office-official-says-2025-02-28/

On the subject of the Russian TASS Reporter, how does anyone unapproved journalist just waltz into the Oval Office and begin recording??

Well obviously, you are invited and it's approved.

kattaduck · 02/03/2025 13:00

Odin2018 · 02/03/2025 12:47

If that's all you have to say then I don't know why you waste your time posting.
Oh by the way, I am not Russian, have no ties to Russia or Putin, I am not a a Russian bot or even a bot. Happy?
Unless you want to discuss the Ukraine and Russian war, Zelensky, Trump etc, then just do one, pretty please, as people are not here to waste their time discussing spelling mistakes and grammar. Go find a English language discussion group to discuss all that if it is something you are interested in and feel the need to comment on.

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But why spread patently false facts?
What is your reasoning?
Difference of opinion is one thing but you have clearly lied on this thread:

"Time for European countries to step up and put their money where their mouths are and at least match what America has put in already IF they truly believe in the fight for Ukraine"

They have.

Arrivals4lucky · 02/03/2025 13:00

Zelensky is a hero. Trump is a spoilt rich brat. JD Vance is a snake. Elon Musk - well, I’m not entirely what that botoxed prick is but why on earth Americans- at least the 50% who apparently didn’t want Trump- aren’t up in arms about a completely unqualified, foreign national running around their government prying in state secrets and god knows what else, is beyond me.

Arrivals4lucky · 02/03/2025 13:01

oh, wait he has money. Of course. Money is everything in the US.

sleepwouldbenice · 02/03/2025 13:02

BreezyShaker · 02/03/2025 12:56

Zelenskyy could have taken the sting out of the conversation at any time but wouldn't stop talking over Trump, that is not the way to get him onside. Also it was clear he was trying to renegotiate the terms in front the camera. The deal had already been agreed (minerals etc) and he tried to change it. He has let Ukraine down.

It hadn't been agreed. I consistently heard Z say he was looking for security in the run up

Why do you actually think US should benefit from the minerals? Do you really believe that the funds given by you previously democratically elected president (even if you hate him) should be repaid? That's vile

kattaduck · 02/03/2025 13:02

Odin2018 · 02/03/2025 12:57

Behind close doors it should happened. If Zelensky hadn't goaded them then none of that would have happened in the first place.

How did he goad them?
He didn't tel.patently false things that was Vance? He didn't yell either?
Trump has consistently told lies in press conferences would it have been justified for him to yell at Trump?

bombastix · 02/03/2025 13:03

Arrivals4lucky · 02/03/2025 13:00

Zelensky is a hero. Trump is a spoilt rich brat. JD Vance is a snake. Elon Musk - well, I’m not entirely what that botoxed prick is but why on earth Americans- at least the 50% who apparently didn’t want Trump- aren’t up in arms about a completely unqualified, foreign national running around their government prying in state secrets and god knows what else, is beyond me.

I imagine a lot of them are shit scared.

I look forward to the small boats from the US landing in the UK.

Joke, American friends

ZooAccountant · 02/03/2025 13:06

Llttledrummergirl · 02/03/2025 12:50

This is so much rubbish I don't know where to start.
Carping on and lying about footage that we all saw. What did Orwell say in 1984?

Read the transcript

Petuniaspetal · 02/03/2025 13:06

bombastix · 02/03/2025 12:58

Well obviously, you are invited and it's approved.

Except they tried to paint it as , 'how did that Russian man get in here' after he had livestreamed it all. A boo boo if you will....in the Whitehouse... one if the most heavily secured buildings in the world. 🤔

SunshinDay · 02/03/2025 13:06

@LondonJax but what you've just posted is the twhole reason the USA wants the mineral rights! To provide a backdrop of USA presence in Ukraine.

SunshinDay · 02/03/2025 13:09

@sleepwouldbenice because it's two ways and benefits USA although there are questions over what's there but it gives the excuse to get America into Ukraine without doing it in an aggressive way.

But also will help to rebuild Ukraine as well.

bombastix · 02/03/2025 13:09

@Petuniaspetal - yes the thing is if you lie all the time, this just becomes natural. I'm sure Americans know their government is lying to them in a way that is really frightening.

It's all about keeping ordinary people off balance, which means they do not make good decisions. Instead they become hopeless.

This technique was developed in Putin's Russia. You will see more and more of it in the future

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