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Party, child with visible difference

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donttake · 24/02/2025 18:43

Was 8 year olds birthday party on Saturday,
Some school friends, some out of school friends and some family were invited. First time doing a mixed party like that and the different groups kind of kept together so Dd was a bit pulled around but otherwise everything went great .

One of DD’s cousins who was at the party has a significant facial difference, purely physical and had no effect of their behaviour or abilities. I’ve had a message from a school friends mother saying thank-you for the party, dc had a great time etc but that she would have appreciated a heads up about dd’s cousin. That her dc were scared and upset and she doesn’t know how to deal with it so could I give advice.

I’m not being being unreasonable to think that’s outrageous, am I?

I have no idea what to reply

OP posts:
27Maisie27 · 25/02/2025 19:14

exaltedwombat · 25/02/2025 18:34

For, God’s sake, put the noose away! She didn’t say ‘How dare you expose my kids to this monstrosity!’ But they were taken by surprise, and she feels some preparation might have been a good idea. You know, like those warnings at the front of tv shows if anything un-anodyne is going to be shown.

"Does it hurt?". "Will it get better?". "Is it catching?". Perfectly reasonable topics to get out of the way before they carry on with the main job of treating them like a normal (but somewhat non-standard) human being.

You genuinely think that children asking those kind of intrusive questions is normal? Is understandable? What kind of upbringing are you subjecting your children to FFS? Teaching them to be kind, courteous and polite is surely a better approach!

Do your children approach everyone who is not uniformly "ordinary" with a barrage of questions? The older person, the person of colour, the larger person, the smaller person, the person with scars, the person missing a limb, the person using a walking aid, the person with a learning disability?

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 25/02/2025 19:16

MaddestGranny · 25/02/2025 18:57

Difficult to comment (I haven't read whole thread, sorry). But if the "visually different" child was noticeably extremely different (I'm thinking Elephant Man), then a note of information might've been useful?:-

"I'd just like to make you aware that Mary, from X's class, is coming to the party. Mary has a condition called (e.g. vitiligo - not that that's totally unusual, just for an illustration), which means that she has brown & white patches on her face, making her look a bit unusual. I hope this preparatory-info will be useful to you. So that meeting Mary will be just an ordinary experience for everyone. Mary will appreciate this, too."

Before doing this, I'd check with "Mary's" parents about their views & take their advice.

This is possibly the most offensive post on the thread. Elephant Man ???? Really ???? ‘Mary’ should be taken for the person she is, not how she looks. What is wrong with you that you can’t see that ??

Srepmum1984 · 25/02/2025 19:24

exaltedwombat · 25/02/2025 18:34

For, God’s sake, put the noose away! She didn’t say ‘How dare you expose my kids to this monstrosity!’ But they were taken by surprise, and she feels some preparation might have been a good idea. You know, like those warnings at the front of tv shows if anything un-anodyne is going to be shown.

"Does it hurt?". "Will it get better?". "Is it catching?". Perfectly reasonable topics to get out of the way before they carry on with the main job of treating them like a normal (but somewhat non-standard) human being.

What is this comment......my jaw was already at ground level, now I fear it's gone further

tillymintt · 25/02/2025 19:26

Going to be devil's advocate here. I would not have messaged you like this woman has, however depending on how severe the facial deformity is I might have advised attendees beforehand, and if I'd received the heads up I would use it as an opportunity to explore the issue with my kids. You just don't know how some kids will react.

exaltedwombat · 25/02/2025 19:29

27Maisie27 · 25/02/2025 19:14

You genuinely think that children asking those kind of intrusive questions is normal? Is understandable? What kind of upbringing are you subjecting your children to FFS? Teaching them to be kind, courteous and polite is surely a better approach!

Do your children approach everyone who is not uniformly "ordinary" with a barrage of questions? The older person, the person of colour, the larger person, the smaller person, the person with scars, the person missing a limb, the person using a walking aid, the person with a learning disability?

No, absolutely not. But they'll be THINKING them, won't they? Then went home and discussed it with Mum. Who was caught on the hop and responded, not as diplomatically as she might have, but not as evilly as the Mumsnet Cancel Machine is making out.

sweetpickle2 · 25/02/2025 19:31

exaltedwombat · 25/02/2025 19:29

No, absolutely not. But they'll be THINKING them, won't they? Then went home and discussed it with Mum. Who was caught on the hop and responded, not as diplomatically as she might have, but not as evilly as the Mumsnet Cancel Machine is making out.

If you can't handle being asked about someone's facial difference without warning by your own child then that is your problem and nobody else's.

northernballer · 25/02/2025 19:33

exaltedwombat · 25/02/2025 19:29

No, absolutely not. But they'll be THINKING them, won't they? Then went home and discussed it with Mum. Who was caught on the hop and responded, not as diplomatically as she might have, but not as evilly as the Mumsnet Cancel Machine is making out.

Maybe you should keep your children at home if they can't cope seeing someone different to them, and the rest of us can just get on with life in peace.

exaltedwombat · 25/02/2025 19:35

northernballer · 25/02/2025 19:33

Maybe you should keep your children at home if they can't cope seeing someone different to them, and the rest of us can just get on with life in peace.

No-one has suggested the children couldn't cope, or behaved badly at the party. But it's ok for them to have questions?

Wishyouwerehere50 · 25/02/2025 19:35

Devon24 · 24/02/2025 19:05

‘I am so sorry your child has anxiety around difference, please speak to the school I am sure they can help. Click on this link for support
https://myface.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Parenting-Guide.pdf

We loved the fact x could come to the party and is much loved by all of the children, I am glad you are addressing your child’s issues, as they can be very harmful. Best wishes op’

I mean this is perfect really. Or I would entirely ignore it and not reply. I'd be prepared for the fall out from that.

The behaviour is so wrong on all levels. The utter disrespect and disregard towards you is my first observation. Does she think you are her gimp. No reply signals perfectly that you are not and this is not appropriate. The suggested reply adds a little boot in for added measure which she may need depending on how cunty she is.

This is not about the child. This is faux horror and concern from some cuntchop who seeks control for some reason.

sweetpickle2 · 25/02/2025 19:37

exaltedwombat · 25/02/2025 19:35

No-one has suggested the children couldn't cope, or behaved badly at the party. But it's ok for them to have questions?

What has that got to do with the OP?

If your child has questions, answer them. What difference does having a 'heads up' make, unless your assumption is that a facial difference is something horrendous that needs to be excused or explained.

YourHappyJadeEagle · 25/02/2025 19:40

If a parent doesn’t know how to explain to her child ( and hasn’t done so by about 8-ish) that people often look different to each other for many reasons and that we always treat everyone with respect, should they really be a parent?

MumWifeOther · 25/02/2025 19:40

MysteriousFalafel · 24/02/2025 18:45

She’d get both barrels from me. Disgusting comment from her. God some people are vile. I can’t even think of a single politely worded thing to text! I’d probably fire back with something like what a pity you’re bringing your kids up to be as horribly closed minded as you. Not to worry, you won’t be invited again.

Same! I’d be furious!!!!

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 25/02/2025 19:41

tillymintt · 25/02/2025 19:26

Going to be devil's advocate here. I would not have messaged you like this woman has, however depending on how severe the facial deformity is I might have advised attendees beforehand, and if I'd received the heads up I would use it as an opportunity to explore the issue with my kids. You just don't know how some kids will react.

So basically you’re the same as the woman OP encountered. You want a trigger warning on the invitation. The child involved was eight. Old enough for the parent to have broached the subject of diversity with them. And, incidentally, old enough for the child with the facial difference to feel hurt and insulted that her peers needed a heads up because they are so difficult to look at !!

Umbrellasinthesunshine · 25/02/2025 19:41

Having grown up with a sibling with serious facial and corporeal scarring I know all too well that people like her exist. She’s trying to gratify her own curiosity with a veil of faux concern / confusion. “What on earth did I just read? You want some advice you say? Be a better human. Think about what you’re actually asking, and how discriminatory, callous and disrespectful you’re being. If you and your kids are so precious about visible differences may I suggest the issue is actually your problem to work through and solve, and nobody else’s.”

DeepFatFried · 25/02/2025 19:42

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Possibly.

And if a member of my family posted a blurred out pic of my kid (actually please explain how you would anonymously disguise a face…) in order to satisfy the curiosity of posters, or for them to judge and discuss whether my child looked so terrifying that their presence required a trigger warning, I would probably kill them.

Metaphorically, obviously.

EnterFunnyNameHere · 25/02/2025 19:42

Oh wow, that's shocking. I'd be tempted to reply something like "sorry, can you be more specific? What is it you think i should have told you in advance?" and make her actually think about what she's asking here!

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 25/02/2025 19:43

exaltedwombat · 25/02/2025 19:35

No-one has suggested the children couldn't cope, or behaved badly at the party. But it's ok for them to have questions?

No one’s suggesting that it’s not OK for the children to have questions. That’s not what’s happening here. By the age of eight the child should have been equipped to take the facial difference in their stride. The fact that they weren’t is on the parent. The parent who wanted a heads up for herself. Not her child.

laraitopbanana · 25/02/2025 19:45

So you could sign her up for some parenting online lesson and send her the sign in 😏

But then you should really not expect an invitation back.

✌️

Chuchoter · 25/02/2025 19:45

I understand that a child seeing another child with a facial disfigurement for the first time might be concerned but a reassuring word from the parent would sort it out there and then.

She's an idiot. Tell her to go and watch the film Mask 1985 with her children.

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northernballer · 25/02/2025 19:46

It's fine to have questions, noone is saying kids can't ask or be curious. My daughter gets asked about hers by children all the time which is fine, she answers the questions and everyone moves on, it upsets her but that's life unfortunately and part of her learning to deal with something that will be lifelong. The text OP got was nothing like that.

People saying some preparation might have been helpful, like all kids with visible differences should have a trigger warning before they leave the house instead of just dealing with things as they arise in an age appropriate way is not on and I'm surprised you can't see why that would upset some people.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 25/02/2025 19:47

exaltedwombat · 25/02/2025 19:29

No, absolutely not. But they'll be THINKING them, won't they? Then went home and discussed it with Mum. Who was caught on the hop and responded, not as diplomatically as she might have, but not as evilly as the Mumsnet Cancel Machine is making out.

Bollocks. You don’t ask for a heads up as to whether someone disabled will be attending the same party as your own child. Equipping them to deal with diversity is down to the parent, not the one issuing the invitation.

HonoraBridge · 25/02/2025 19:48

The schoolfriend’s mother needs to grow up.

elliejjtiny · 25/02/2025 19:51

My 11 year old son has a facial difference. He has had some horrific comments and reactions, mostly from people old enough to know better.

And the one time I thought I was going to get a rude comment about his face from a 4 year old but it turned out she was just judging me for dressing him in a baby grow during the day Grin.

My son doesn't come with a warning. I'm not going to let people know about his difference before they meet him so they can be prepared. He is who he is and it's a privilege to be his mum.

CaptainMyCaptain · 25/02/2025 19:53

sweetpickle2 · 25/02/2025 19:37

What has that got to do with the OP?

If your child has questions, answer them. What difference does having a 'heads up' make, unless your assumption is that a facial difference is something horrendous that needs to be excused or explained.

This. It's the asking for a heads up, a trigger warning basically, that is the worst bit.

exaltedwombat · 25/02/2025 19:54

northernballer · 25/02/2025 19:46

It's fine to have questions, noone is saying kids can't ask or be curious. My daughter gets asked about hers by children all the time which is fine, she answers the questions and everyone moves on, it upsets her but that's life unfortunately and part of her learning to deal with something that will be lifelong. The text OP got was nothing like that.

People saying some preparation might have been helpful, like all kids with visible differences should have a trigger warning before they leave the house instead of just dealing with things as they arise in an age appropriate way is not on and I'm surprised you can't see why that would upset some people.

I absolutely see why it would upset some people. But we live in an age of excessive ‘trigger warnings’. Want me to dig up some mumsnet threads where the mob turned on someone who FAILED to protect everyone’s DC from something potentially unsettling?