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To think that now is the time for powerful voices to speak up…

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Alifemoreordinary123 · 20/02/2025 20:14

I’m not highly educated or hugely politically savvy. But like many people, I’m horrified by Trump and Musk’s approach, propaganda and ideology. It’s increasingly possibly they will take the world to a very dark place. I keep thinking, surely there are enough counter powers - people with power and influence, leaders from business, media, the arts, politics across the Western world to try and counter some of their rhetoric. I’m not naive to the immense power they hold, but surely reason, sense, logic and hope will win over?

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hamstersarse · 22/02/2025 07:16

I think this is exactly what Trump has been doing - why he’s been slaying Zelensky https://x.com/scottadamssays/status/1892629486627389832?s=10

And we wake up to news an agreement is imminent. I really think Trump has pulled off a blinder if that happens today

BIossomtoes · 22/02/2025 07:17

hamstersarse · 22/02/2025 07:16

I think this is exactly what Trump has been doing - why he’s been slaying Zelensky https://x.com/scottadamssays/status/1892629486627389832?s=10

And we wake up to news an agreement is imminent. I really think Trump has pulled off a blinder if that happens today

It won’t.

username299 · 22/02/2025 07:26

hamstersarse · 22/02/2025 07:16

I think this is exactly what Trump has been doing - why he’s been slaying Zelensky https://x.com/scottadamssays/status/1892629486627389832?s=10

And we wake up to news an agreement is imminent. I really think Trump has pulled off a blinder if that happens today

Why do you think capitulating to dictators is pulling a blinder? Ukraine could have rolled over and handed Kyiv to Russia when they first invaded if that's what they wanted to do.

So if North Korea invaded the South, the South should just wave a white flag and hand over their natural resources and land?

Millions lost their lives fighting these fuckers in the world wars and you're cheering them on.

Mila6464 · 22/02/2025 07:33

hamstersarse · 22/02/2025 07:16

I think this is exactly what Trump has been doing - why he’s been slaying Zelensky https://x.com/scottadamssays/status/1892629486627389832?s=10

And we wake up to news an agreement is imminent. I really think Trump has pulled off a blinder if that happens today

Agreement with whom?

Coolasfeck · 22/02/2025 07:42

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14421211/trump-steve-bannon-nazi-salute-cpac-elon-musk.html

They are not even bothering to pretend what they are now they are in power.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 22/02/2025 08:53

Coolasfeck · 22/02/2025 07:42

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14421211/trump-steve-bannon-nazi-salute-cpac-elon-musk.html

They are not even bothering to pretend what they are now they are in power.

Edited

So disgusting.

I can only imagine the excuses people will have for him now.

Shudacudawuda · 22/02/2025 08:57

Mila6464 · 22/02/2025 07:33

Agreement with whom?

I'm guessing the PP is referring to this:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14423219/volodymyr-zelensky-surrenders-donald-trump-sign-mineral-deal-hours.html

ThenUm · 22/02/2025 11:11

username299 · 22/02/2025 07:26

Why do you think capitulating to dictators is pulling a blinder? Ukraine could have rolled over and handed Kyiv to Russia when they first invaded if that's what they wanted to do.

So if North Korea invaded the South, the South should just wave a white flag and hand over their natural resources and land?

Millions lost their lives fighting these fuckers in the world wars and you're cheering them on.

Quite.

59thStreetBridgeSong · 22/02/2025 14:55

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 21/02/2025 08:45

Russia was provoked to invade Ukraine?

I've never seen so many people keen to endorse Putin and his ambitions. It's frightening.

Luckily there are many many more people and governments who recognise Putin for what he is.

Trump is Krasnov. Has been since the 1980s.

Yes - an inconvenient truth that he was spying for Russia and he has been put where he is by the Kremlin. Now Russia have a green light to invade more countries.

neverthelastone · 22/02/2025 16:20

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JHound · 22/02/2025 16:39

I see that the Orange Man just fired the highly qualified but black Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staffs and replaced him with a much less qualified but white man.

How are people not yet realising that “DEI hire” is just the new euphemism for the N-word and the B-word? American leadership is a complete racist shitshow and the way there is complete silence is worrying. He makes me long for the days of George W Bush!

JHound · 22/02/2025 16:42

Coolasfeck · 22/02/2025 07:42

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14421211/trump-steve-bannon-nazi-salute-cpac-elon-musk.html

They are not even bothering to pretend what they are now they are in power.

Edited

But but but the ADL said it wasn’t a Nazi salute!

They have never hidden who they were so everybody who supports them is openly supporting this type of narrative.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 23/02/2025 01:18

JHound · 22/02/2025 16:39

I see that the Orange Man just fired the highly qualified but black Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staffs and replaced him with a much less qualified but white man.

How are people not yet realising that “DEI hire” is just the new euphemism for the N-word and the B-word? American leadership is a complete racist shitshow and the way there is complete silence is worrying. He makes me long for the days of George W Bush!

So fucking sad.

Coolasfeck · 23/02/2025 06:21

JHound · 22/02/2025 16:39

I see that the Orange Man just fired the highly qualified but black Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staffs and replaced him with a much less qualified but white man.

How are people not yet realising that “DEI hire” is just the new euphemism for the N-word and the B-word? American leadership is a complete racist shitshow and the way there is complete silence is worrying. He makes me long for the days of George W Bush!

Yes this follows on the heals of firing the first woman to lead one of the six military services. Also likely replaced by a white man. This is all disgusting.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250121-trump-fires-first-woman-to-head-a-us-military-service

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