Delivery man using toilet

[Fountofwisdom]

I admit I am a bit of a clean freak at best of times. Can’t bear people wearing shoes inside etc. But really don’t like workmen, etc using my bathroom.

A delivery driver arrived earlier with some kitchen appliances, just delivering, not installing. He asked to use the bathroom and I immediately wanted to say no, as I HATE strangers in my bathroom. But didn’t feel I could refuse.

So he was in bathroom for a minute or so and went on his way. I went in to clean the toilet as I always would, and not only had he used it, but he left a big black pubic hair on the toilet seat 🤮🤮 Absolutely revolting.

Have spent 5 minutes deep cleaning and disinfecting toilet and have put the hand towel in wash because I’m so disgusted.

AIBU to refuse access to my bathroom in future? Or am I over-reacting?

i will have builders in for 2 weeks shortly and obviously they will want to use the bathroom, which I’m not delighted about but can’t be helped. Means I’ll have to clean the toilet every day, but I can’t refuse them using it.

But random delivery men - would you refuse? And what would you say?

I hope you put the seat up first and don't leave urine all over the seat for others to clean up.

Roller towels were much better and meant that people didn't use all the toilet paper up drying their hands as the hand dryers are often rubbish or too few and people won't wait.

I don't know why strangers are more germ ridden using hand towels or whatever, than members of family, dads, aunts, uncles, good friends etc
It's just weird. We all pee and shit, one pube is the same as another.

Many years ago I had a boyfriend with a motorcycle and leather jacket with badges, long hair, headband, you get the picture. I thought that he was the bees knees and so did he 😂 we got caught up in the local carnival procession and he asked someone he could use their loo ( lots of people were out in their gardens watching the carnival). The girl shouted ‘ Mam, can someone use our toilet?’ The Mam shouted back ‘ only if they are in the carnival’ then catching sight of him she said, ‘ yes, go on son’ 😂

Why are so many people so scared of toilet germs?

Nice of her.

I wouldn’t refuse basic things like access to a toilet to any human, unless I genuinely believed it was unsafe to give them access. He’s a person, and he needed the loo. He’s not a sub species of humanity. Nor are your workmen!

They view their peers as subhuman, inferiour, biohazardous threats. But they themselves are perfect.

Whilst a kitchen sponge has more bacteria you can still pick up potentially dangerous germs from toilet seats, handles etc
eg hep A can cause liver failure and is life threatening.

I would say no because I would have been alone and there's no way I'm allowing some random man to go into my house. I would have said sorry someone is in there and I'm about to head out now.

It is interesting how people subconsciously look down on other people isn't it.

See, that quite clearly says that if you wash your hands you’ll be pretty safe…

Thinking about it, if it was a woman delivering who asked to use the toilet I'd say yes of course. Sub-consciously (or consciously) I view men as dirtier and less likely to be respectful of their surroundings.
I also wouldn't be in any danger from the woman. And she'd be more likely to have a genuine need - smaller bladder, period etc, also not so easy to have a quick discreet wee al fresco.

I would just like to say that I had something similar happen to me a few weeks ago but the boiler man asked to use my toilet and had a 💩 before he left - charming 😂

Germs are easily defeated though. We have bleach.

This thread is Mumsnet at its finest. Keep up the good work, everybody, it’s so funny! This particular topic is debated in Mumsnet regularly, it never gets old, my bingo card is full. Shoes off debate next?

I mentioned the delivery of the items to answer some of the questions being asked. The delivery in itself was ok except I did think it was strange that he insisted on carrying the 2 smaller boxes upstairs and into the flat, rather than handing them over to me as I offered. But as others have now pointed out, he clearly wanted to come inside so that he could use the toilet.

I will add that I used to be a driving instructor, in a big city, where public toilets were scarce, doing lots of lessons back to back. I often asked to use pupils’ toilets after a lesson. Only one of them ever refused. (And these pupils were putting their mucky mitts all over my beautiful car, including one girl who sweated so much it would be literally dripping off the steering wheel.)

Did I ever say or suggest he was a sub species of human? So you’d allow ‘any human’ into your home to use the toilet? A random drunk on the way home from the pub? A young man knocking on your door? Your taxi driver who had just dropped you home? Bollocks would you.

As it happens, I was having refresher driving lessons over 6 months last year, and offered my female instructor to use the toilet a couple of times as she had mentioned exactly this problem. However, I had built up a relationship with her, trusted her, and yes, she was female. All very different to the random delivery guy this morning. Oh, and at no time did the driving instructor leave her pubes behind.

That will be different because I have met the main builder half a dozen times now and have also met his side kick, and it will mostly just be them on the work. It’s a totally different scenario. They will be working all day in my home and obviously need access to a toilet. So I won’t feel stressed about it, but I will still thoroughly clean the toilet at the end of each day.

I think you need to get over it at this stage @Fountofwisdom in the grand scheme of things, it's a non-issue. Just say 'no' next time, or make an excuse, and move on.

Yeah he was a pushy bloke, taking advantage of your politeness, which is why it's left you feeling a bit wtf. He didn't really ask, did he, in a way you could have said no. He was going in there anyway.

You would literally retch at seeing a single hair?

Yuk manspreading and power playing so he doesn't need to clean his own toilet at home.