AIBU to think the media should report people’s actual sex—not preferred gender—in legal cases, courts, and crime reporting?

[SernieBanders]

A large portion of the country does not know what "transgender woman" means, (is it someone male being female or female being male?) And using incorrect pronouns from reality makes this worse.

Not to mention it clouds the reality of important cases such as Dr Beth Upton and Nurse Sandie Peggie - at a glance it could be easy for a casual reader to not know why Sandie was so upset, surely it's just another woman in the female changing rooms?

Language matters. Always. Twisting it and using it incorrectly leads to all sorts of misunderstandings, like "Her Penis" or "His Ovaries"

Has there been an uptick in the legally impossible act of women raping people? No. But according to the media, seemingly yes.

Organisations do this because IPSO (Independent Press Standards Organisation), forces them to do so, see this description from the Spectator, who had their hand forced https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-ipso-surrendered-to-the-trans-lobby/?homepage-tracking=high_density-article-1

For example this, awful story, is a male, raping and sexually abusing children under 13.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14392643/Transgender-woman-court-rape-girl-sexually-assault-boy.html

This should stop - it's not a matter of "outing" people, as the media often says "transgender woman", but it is a matter of being fair and clear to both sexes

The Scottish Express - has tried to stop doing so - and they have been reported to the police:
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/comment/scottish-express-referring-dr-beth-34670335

I've would like anything discussing trans,including this site, to put a glossary at the beginning of every thread or article. I get confused with TIMs and TIFs and I've been here years!

Yes it affects crime statistics.

We all know that some men are violent towards women. Therefore single sex spaces are justified as it is a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim - i.e. keeping women safe from male violence.

As we've started recording violent crime against women as committed by women (even though the perpetrator is biologically male), the crime statistics get watered down. It's harder to justify that a single sex space is needed for the protection of women as the stats now show that some women also commit violence against women.

Afaik the crime of 'assault by penetration' carries the same penalties as rape?

...but even though it's possible for 'women to do it too', of course the overwhelming preponderance of those crimes are by males too.

@Binglebong Problem is these are not agreed terms. Some people will say that 'woman' includes individuals who are male and that transwoman is an unnecessary term.

Quite incredible to see people trying to get inside the "biological" definition now as well

Yes I agree with you completely.
I’ve also seen the argument that men should be allowed in Women’s spaces because around 90% of sexual crimes committed against women are by men that they know.
I think the stats are skewed that way simply because men haven’t historically been allowed in to women’s spaces. It’s all about opportunity.

I was reading a horrific thread on the relationships board about how many women have been subjected to sexual violence by a man from their own family - in a disturbing number of cases, their own fathers and brothers. It feels like a sizeable proportion of men would do this to a woman given the opportunity to do so.

Yes

It does feel like 1984 territory when the press is telling the public "woman has been found guilty of rape", when the accompanying photo shows that "woman" is very clearly a man. Yet of course we are not "allowed" to say that a man is a man, for fear of offending his delicate sensibilities.

It’s outrageous this is happening, it only benefits men to attribute their crimes to us.

Of course the press should report facts and not fantasies. I’d like to hear from some of the 12% who think you’re unreasonable

I never cease to be astonished that we got ourselves here. Imagine seeing this thread ten years ago?

I would have thought it was an elaborate hoax

Yes me too

“Be kind”?

Some people get angry this is on the big board. Might be that.

Some people think we spend too much time on it, apparently. It could also be that. 🫠

They did, don't know if it's changed back

Totally agree. It's lying and creates distrust. Now whenever we get a report of a 'woman' committing a violent or sexual crime, we always doubt it's actually a woman.

I couldn’t agree more, it leads to really confusing reporting.

I would though like to a few steps further and record patient sex on hospital records as currently it is gender though blood result levels are adjusted for patient sex. 🙄

All of those poor people without movable thumbs - who can only jab at every single thread and open it, whether they want to or not, rather than being able to scroll past all of the ones that don't interest them like most of us, eh?

Surely the answer is to refer to people as Male, Female, Transman or Transwoman universally then everyone knows who we all are.

The proposal that Transwomen are called Women and real Women are renamed CIS Women is stupid and illogical. The VAST majority are born women so no good reason for them to be renamed. The tiny minority can have the new name Transwomen.

Under English and Welsh law (not sure about Scotland) rape requires a penis, ergo it’s a male crime.

Probably you’ll get told that TWAW and everyone who doesn’t agree is a hateful transphobic far right nazi bigot.

Just the same tired old cliches on repeat without actually offering any genuine insight to their thoughts.

Unfortunately some seem to think ‘misgendering’ a rapist in a bad wig and pink leggings is a worse crime than the sexual assault he’s committed and seem more concerned about his hurty menz feelz than the victim.

Totally agree with you the wokeness of this country infuriates me

Should be.. "Bob Jones, a 57 year old man from Wigan who now refers to himself as Barbara Jones..."

No more nonsense.

Yanbu