AIBU to think the media should report people’s actual sex—not preferred gender—in legal cases, courts, and crime reporting?

[SernieBanders]

A large portion of the country does not know what "transgender woman" means, (is it someone male being female or female being male?) And using incorrect pronouns from reality makes this worse.

Not to mention it clouds the reality of important cases such as Dr Beth Upton and Nurse Sandie Peggie - at a glance it could be easy for a casual reader to not know why Sandie was so upset, surely it's just another woman in the female changing rooms?

Language matters. Always. Twisting it and using it incorrectly leads to all sorts of misunderstandings, like "Her Penis" or "His Ovaries"

Has there been an uptick in the legally impossible act of women raping people? No. But according to the media, seemingly yes.

Organisations do this because IPSO (Independent Press Standards Organisation), forces them to do so, see this description from the Spectator, who had their hand forced https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-ipso-surrendered-to-the-trans-lobby/?homepage-tracking=high_density-article-1

For example this, awful story, is a male, raping and sexually abusing children under 13.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14392643/Transgender-woman-court-rape-girl-sexually-assault-boy.html

This should stop - it's not a matter of "outing" people, as the media often says "transgender woman", but it is a matter of being fair and clear to both sexes

The Scottish Express - has tried to stop doing so - and they have been reported to the police:
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/comment/scottish-express-referring-dr-beth-34670335

I will say some of the less #bekind media does what they’re instructed to and use the preferred pronouns but post a photo to clearly say up their readership ‘look with your eyes and see clearly what this person is even if we’re not allowed to actually use the words but come on, the state of it’

Regardless of its many faults the Daily Mail is very good at shining a light to show its readers exactly what’s going on

Yup.
People carry their wokeness as part of their identity and so get very defensive when it is challenged. Almost as though you are attacking them personally. I try never to pick a hill to die on, instead basing my opinions on whatever knowledge I have up to that point. I have never seen a valid argument in favour of transgender people’s right to take over women’s spaces.

They are very black and white in their thinking. In order to virtue signal and feel like a ‘good person’ they will believe that any ‘marginalised’ group is full of good people and they can do no wrong. I have seen threads on here where people have accused the OP of being racist because she has said that anyone who is not a British citizen who rapes a woman in this country should be deported back. Let’s forget for a moment that not everyone who isn’t British is non-white, just as not everyone who IS British is white, these people showed more compassion towards men committing violent crimes than the women on the receiving end of it. It beggars belief.

Do I believe that the majority of trans people are good people just trying to live their lives how they wish? Of course! Do I believe that there will be a number of them that want to abuse that? Absolutely. Do I believe that women should budge up for any of these people? Absolutely fucking not.

I can feel sympathy for an individual suffering from gender dysphoria and still believe that they should not have access to spaces meant for people of the opposite sex.

Yanbu….obvs

Yes
It has impacted both set of stats

Police changed the way they recorded crimes.
so if you IDed into the "trans" classification you report was recorded under a "anti-trans hate" crime

So you Errors (F) go to the police as your NDN (M) was parking blocking your drive and you/NDN both hit each other.
You both report each other.
You dont ID as trans your NDN did
Before the change you have not committed a "hate" crime but after the record method changed you have.
And the sex box was renamed so you a female have assaulted another female.

So overnight your local nick went from having zero to a 100% increase in "anti-trans hate" crime.

That was used by the media and politicians.

In court for both caaes your NDN is reported as female and gets she/her prononus.

On conviction the stats would be
2 Female perpetrator
2 Female victim

If you IDed as trans
1 Female 1 Male perpetrator
1 Female 1 Male victim

And its a 200% jump in hate crimes

I agree. I'm so fed up with male crimes being reported as committed by women.

It also obfuscates the issues.
For example writing

"She was given access to the female changing rooms" vs

"He was given access to the female changing rooms"

Make such a difference in getting the message across.

Absolutely. Way to easy to get the wrong idea.

reminds me that when people are reminded “trans women”
are 99% genital
intact, approval for them getting access to women’s changing rooms plummets.

I really don’t think it matters in most instances to the general news reading public.

And if they don’t understand what a “trans woman” is….Google is free.

You don't think it matters if the media are lying to us about the sex of people they're reporting on?

Seriously?

What else doesn't matter? Age? Area of the country? Incident they're involved in?

Why report at all if what you're reporting isn't true?

And Google misses the point.

People look at the word and assume biological woman - they don't think to look it up.

A flesh tube made of arm grafted from their arm or thigh is not a penis.

So no.

You have to know you need to Google something in order to Google it.

If you assume that a trans woman is a woman who iIDs trans (rather than a man who IDs as trans) why would you Google it?

And surely it’s a duty of reporting to be clear. But so far as trans is concerned, being as obfuscating as possible is the name of the game, and you have to ask why.

And surely it’s a duty of reporting to be clear. But so far as trans is concerned, being as obfuscating as possible is the name of the game, and you have to ask why.

Very well expressed

But sometimes they say transgender woman or transgender female. It's not clear.

For example

"Transgender woman guilty of rape after night out"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckddgw0p8xvo

It just defies belief that the courts, the police, the stats and the media are systematically and deliberately lying to us about male violence. It's enraging.

And that thus is somehow seen as the 'progressive' thing to do 😵‍💫

100% agree.

They were even presenting as male at the time of the offence!!

Lawyer interjects: sexual assault by penetrating the mouth, anus or vagina with something that isn't a penis is assault by penetration.

You don’t think it matters to people that suddenly there’s a spike in allegedly female sex offenders?

No, because it would not be a penis. It would be a piece of flesh from the female person's arm or thigh, refashioned to create an appendage that looked like a penis, and transplanted to her groin. It would have some sort of balloon inside it, which would have to be pumped up to make it stiff enough for penetration. It would therefore come under the category of a different part of the body or an object. Not a penis.

Unconsenting penetration by a penis is a crime that only a male human can commit. Males are referred to as he or him.

YDNBU

Thanks for your thoughts on this

BodyKeepingScore
JellySaurus

And anyone else who responded to my post.
Makes sense to me. As usual it comes down to chromosomes, whatever genitalia you have, attach, remove or adjust.

If you have an X chromosome you are, and will always be, male. Whatever you wear or do to your body.

I'm sure you meant to type

If you have a Y chromosome you are, and will always be, male. Whatever you wear or do to your body.

Lol sorry of course, I get xx and xy muddled sometimes 😅