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Grandparents wanting sleepover 1:1

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Help3214 · 18/02/2025 14:26

Hi all, sorry for a long one a lot of context and would love a sanity check on this.

Increasingly noticing that my in laws are very keen (as in mentioning it quite a few times) for 1:1 time with my toddler who is 3, without us parents there, including a sleepover at their house. This is never said directly to us the parents, e.g “we would love to take your child for a sleepover at ours would that be ok?” Instead there is often this thing of saying it to the child “would you like to come to Nannie’s house for a sleepover wouldn’t that be lovely”. Or the most it has been said to us directly is “I could drive and meet you half way if the journey is too much”. Recently it was, “Nannie and Granddad could take him to X place soon for the day wouldn’t that be nice” (this place is a 5 hour drive from our house, but only 1 hour drive from their house, so the only way it would work as a day trip was if child
had slept over at their house).

My child is 3 (just turned 3) and they live 130 miles away so it’s a 3 hour motorway drive. If we are visiting them we would always have to stop for wees etc to get there, so it’s a long old journey especially if there is traffic and generally we have started to ask them to come here instead - it saves the car journey where child gets a bit sicky / restless, but also saves us packing for an overnight trip with all the mountains of stuff kids need. We also have a baby now so even less keen on having to pack up the car for two. Having said that, we still do make a lot of effort to go and stay - when my baby was 6 weeks old we went to stay with toddler so that the wider family could meet the baby.

We get on with them but aren’t as close as we are to my family, who live nearer. But we do go see them fairly regularly. My husband has never been crazily close to them or his sibling, and since we have been together 20 years this has always been the way - seeing them every couple of months or so, no pressure. This has changed though since we had kids as naturally they want time with their grandchild / now grandchildren, which I do get.

Out of respect for this we asked if they would like to do one day a month childcare for us, so they come up for the day whilst my child is not in nursery (he does 4 days a week) so they do get this 1:1 time with them one day a month. I felt uncomfortable asking for them to do more as they are so far away, so my parents who are much closer do the other days. On this day when child is not in nursery we tend to work from home so we are sometimes in the house too, though not always. Sometimes they take him out on their own to the park / zoo / lunch etc. Alongside that day a month, we also see them I would say for weekend visits maybe every 2 months. This feels more than enough for me, and reflects the dynamic of the relationship over the past two decades.

There have been other comments recently around school half terms / school holidays when my child starts, like “when it’s the holidays you can come on holiday to Nannie’s house for the week”.

I am finding my reaction to these comments about sleepovers / time with him quite hard. I don’t know if it’s hormones / some kind of caveman protective thing? I don’t want to be shutting them out, they are really nice people, but I’m finding it really frustrating for a number of reasons.

One is that if they genuinely wanted 1:1 time with him, I don’t know why that needs to be at their house without me and my husband there. We both work full time, child is in nursery in the week so the weekends are so so precious to us - I don’t want to ship him off on the only two days we get with him. I can’t see this changing massively in the summer holidays, I have really good annual leave with work and I would really value that time with my kids, I just can’t see me wanting him away from us for a whole week?

Two, the motorway journey is such a factor here. Train is not an option as the routes don’t connect. Both my inlaws are good drivers but they’re late 60s and it’s a 6 hour round trip, it’s such a long journey for a little one to be in the car and god forbid anything would happen. I wouldn’t be comfortable with many people driving my toddler on the motorway apart from my husband and I, so this nervousness around the drive isn’t just reserved for them. Child also gets a bit sicky on car rides. My husband’s mum once suggested a half way drive and we meet halfway to swap the child over at a petrol station / services and she take him down to theirs, so that we’re not having to go the whole way / they’re not having to go the whole way. My husband pointed out - “but mum, child would still be doing the whole journey” His mum was like “ah right yes ok”, clearly disappointed.

Three, Child has only just turned 3, so the bulk of these comments have been happening since he was 18 months +. I don’t want to deprive them of something they clearly really want (to have their only grandchild at their home on their own, and for a sleepover) but I don’t know if I’m being irrationally annoyed about it. He is still really little. He often gets nightmares in the night and calls out for us and you know what toddlers are like - temperatures, scuffed knees, sickness bugs. He is still in nappies at night. He just seems too little for me to want him to be that far away, if anything happened and we were 3 hours drive away I just feel like that’s a bit far? He is also a really emotional little kid, so I just know how it could go if something upset him.

I am finding myself getting closer to sitting his parents down and saying all of the above, and reiterating that I do want them to have quality time with him but that above what they already get with him I don’t see why these sleepovers needs to be without his parents there too - why can’t it be family time with us all together, especially when he is so young. And especially as me and my husband have full time jobs so really value the precious time we get with him. Maybe when he is older, then we could discuss it again, but for now since he is only just 3 he feels too little to me.

I genuinely can’t tell if I’m being overly cautious / negative about this. I don’t want to be labelled crazy possessive daughter in law, would love a reality check if that’s how it is coming across.

Worth mentioning that my husband remembers having sleepovers at his grandparents house, but the difference was both lived 2 minutes away - so maybe his parents are feeling nostalgic about that and wanting the same, but it’s just not comparable when we live much further. Also his mum was a SAHM, so probably by the weekend she really did want a break understandably. It’s not the same for me.

My husband is totally aligned with me, but I feel like it is probably me who is going to end up having to say this (very conflict avoidant family). How do I politely and clearly put across my point of view?

if you think I just need to suck it up and let them have this sleepover weekend please do say! Genuinely am intrigued to know if I’m overthinking it

OP posts:
Zanatdy · 18/02/2025 14:32

Can they stay over at yours and you and your hubby get away for a night locally?

DameCelia · 18/02/2025 14:34

Grandparents wanting to spend time with their grandchildren? = Lovely
Grandparents wanting to spend days out with their grandchildren, no parents around? = Ok, quite nice
Grandparents wanting to spend time overnight with their grandchildren, without their parents, a size hour round trip form home, when the child in question is 3 and not always settled at night ? = That'd be a hard no from me.

Things are supposed to be in the child's best interest, not theirs!

In fairness, do you think they're worried that when child is older you won't let them go? That's why they're mentioning it now ?

Maybe explaining that child will need to be old enough to be reliably happy away from home. And that's not now.

I'd also point out that time child spends with them is taken away from time child spends with you. They may not have really realized that.

Nursingadvice · 18/02/2025 14:34

I’m not sure if your issue is overnight stays, or the distance. As in, would your stance change if they lived locally?
Personally I encouraged dc to have overnight stays with Grandparents from much younger than 3. It gave me a well needed rest and quiet time. But they were local- 5 minutes away.

Ablondiebutagoody · 18/02/2025 14:34

This all seems very OTT. Just let them do a sleepover, see how it goes.

Help3214 · 18/02/2025 14:35

Zanatdy · 18/02/2025 14:32

Can they stay over at yours and you and your hubby get away for a night locally?

I would be happy to suggest this, but she said something about “a change of scene would be nice for him and showing him X (place nearby them” so I really get the sense that it’s about having them in their home and their town. It’s the town where both of them were born and bred, they’ve never left, so a sort of everyone knows everyone place so I imagine that is at play as well - they always imagined having their grandchildren nearby maybe? I really think it wouldn’t be the same for them if the sleepover happened here, but obviously that would be way easier for us and way more of a break for us as takes way less planning!

OP posts:
Quitelikeit · 18/02/2025 14:36

Ofgs just let them enrich your child’s life and be grandparents

You are creating barriers

They are not interested in you and you don’t seem particularly excited about them and that is fine!!

And yes of course your parents are great

Sunnydiary · 18/02/2025 14:39

He’s not a bloody toy!

Stick to the situation you have now. GPs get time with DGS weekly. Why are they still moaning.

Just say “no, that won’t work for us, please stop asking “

Moveoverdarlin · 18/02/2025 14:40

Isn’t it funny how there is this thread where the Mum is anxious about her 3 year old staying with grandparents for one night and another thread currently running where the OP wants opinions on whether she and her OP should go on a cycling holiday to Italy for a week leaving a two year old with GPs. I suppose it highlights that everyone has different views and will do different things. What you’re describing doesn’t sound particularly unreasonable but if you’re uneasy I wouldn’t do it. I think the crux of it is the relationship with the in-laws, you don’t sound particularly fond of them.

coxesorangepippin · 18/02/2025 14:42

This really pisses me off. Asking the child directly, not the parents.

It's not the child's choice!!!

Even worse is parents getting their kids to ask my kids if they want a playdate: why can't the parents just ask me themselves!?!

😡

sleepandcoffee · 18/02/2025 14:42

There's plenty of time for sleep over when your child is older and can ask for themselves . My son first had a grandparent sleepover when he was 5 because he wanted to and that was fine by me !

Zanatdy · 18/02/2025 14:42

Help3214 · 18/02/2025 14:35

I would be happy to suggest this, but she said something about “a change of scene would be nice for him and showing him X (place nearby them” so I really get the sense that it’s about having them in their home and their town. It’s the town where both of them were born and bred, they’ve never left, so a sort of everyone knows everyone place so I imagine that is at play as well - they always imagined having their grandchildren nearby maybe? I really think it wouldn’t be the same for them if the sleepover happened here, but obviously that would be way easier for us and way more of a break for us as takes way less planning!

I’d suggest you start with this, with a view to having some at grandparents when he is a little older and can manage the journey better. My parents are 5hrs away but I did send my son once summer for a week but it didn’t really work often; but we all went up every half term and they never pushed to have them alone. My eldest who I had at 16 (my mum was 39!) they had a lot, and my brothers daughter so 15yrs later when more grandchildren came along they weren’t so keen! My brother who is 50 next week has a 30yr old and 2yr old! My mum is no longer wanting to babysit at all, not even a few hrs and I am still 5hrs away or i’d help my brother and SIL out.

Toomanyusernamestochoose · 18/02/2025 14:43

I have IL who made similar comments from the moment DC1 was born (admittedly living much closer) but I just smiled and said DC still breastfed at night until we were ready.

It honestly doesn't sound like you have anything to worry about as it is just not practical for them to take him right now and if you are not able to facilitate dropping or collecting him then it won't happen. When your child is older and more independent, it will be lovely for them to do in the school holiday but until then, it won't work so just smile and make a comment about them still needing you in the night/not being able to tolerate the long journey/any other reason it is not practical

Velvian · 18/02/2025 14:46

Is it the way they are bringing this up? Talking through the child rather than either asking you directly?

That may be what is putting you off most, that they won't just ask a straight question or communicate what they would like. It would feel really different if they said to you, we would really love to have DC here and take him to X place, rather than spinning it indirectly to being 'for the DC'

Onlyvisiting · 18/02/2025 14:47

I think what's making this so awkward is that they haven't asked you directly, so no opportunity to discuss it.
Personally I'd suggest that next time it comes up you say 'oh, it's a bit soon for overnights away from home just yet, maybe when he's older. But if you wanted to come and stay for the weekend and babysit while DH and I have a night out/away then that would be lovely'
Basicslly working up to it for all of you, start with having them take care of him overnight in your house, then you go for a weekend at theirs and leave him with them while you go our for the day, then overnight, then if he is settled and happy doing that you probably wouldn't be so worried about him visiting when he is a jit older? Tbh I can see why they want it, popping in for visits isn't the same as a full weekend, they probably feel they are missing a lot given the distance between you. If they lived close enough for pop ins then they probably wouldn't be so desperate for overnights.

Velvian · 18/02/2025 14:47

I think there is an inherent implied criticism when making it about the child's needs too that turns you off, especially when passively talking to you through the child.

Haappy · 18/02/2025 14:50

I absolutely detest this sort of hinting and find it really annoying when they say it to the children but not to me and DH directly. Your DC is surely too young to go that far away for a 'sleepover' anyway. I'd just ignore the comments TBH. You have very good reasons for not taking the hints.

We both work a lot too. In the past there have been hints about DC going to my parents/in laws for a week in the holidays. When she was a baby I couldn't imagine wanting to ship her off for a week at a time (or even a night!). Now she is 7 and the school holidays are so precious, we just don't need or want to send her away for a week. So we don't.

SatinHeart · 18/02/2025 14:53

I would agree a week is too long at that age especially given DC hasn't stayed overnight with them at all yet. But it might be nice for them to have some spoiling from grandparents espeially with a baby sibling on the scene?

It does come across like you are making excuses about the journey/distance because you don't want to agree to this. As the parent of a DC with pretty bad travel sickness, you can't use that as an excuse not to go long distances or your world will get very small.
I would say though, bundling your child from your car to PILs car at a petrol station and then driving away from them will likely go very badly from a separation anxiety point of view so I think you should tell PILs that.

The first time we left DC at their GPs house (and they were a little older, but that was due to the pandemic) we drove there and stayed the first night with them, then we left to do something else and DC stayed a further 2 nights before we picked them up and went home. Could you do something like that?

If you aren't ready or you think DC isn't ready for this then fine, but don't make it about the practicalities as they aren't insurmountable if it's something you want DC to experience.

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millymollymoomoo · 18/02/2025 14:57

Don’t see what the issue is

my children went to stay at both sets of grandparents from that age for several days at a time ( my parents also live 3 hours away)
then when they were at primary would go to one or the other set for a week during half term / summer. They had lovely time and visited all sorts of places and got spoilt rotten !

Feelinadequate23 · 18/02/2025 14:57

I don't think anyone IBU here - you just want different things and I think the physical distance makes it harder for them to have a close relationship, which is sad for GPs.

We leave our 2 year old son with PIL twice a year for a night. They live a 2 hour drive away and DH and I stay in a spa hotel about another hour on from their house. We always stay at their house the night before as well, so we all do the journey together, spend one night there together to get DS used to it, then go off for 24 hours to the spa. He loves it, GPs love it, we love it - so it's win-win.

If you just did it once a year would a plan like the above work at all? Not quite the same break for you as you have a baby too, although might be nice for the baby to get your sole attention for a bit, like older DS did when he was a baby?

If you're not keen, I don't think you need a big sit down discussion about it, just keep responding with vague things like "ah yes, when he's older I'm sure he'll love that". Or, "once he's through this stage of having nightmares I think that sounds like a really fun idea".

It's fine if you don't want a break but most parents I know do want one and are grateful for GP help, so I don't think your ILs are at all unreasonable to ask/offer.

LadyMargaretPoledancer · 18/02/2025 14:57

It would be a no from me.

It's too far away and the child is too young to articulate feeling of being uncomfortable to you if they need to.

I would tell them it sounds like a nice idea but let's revisit it when they are older. They're too young right now.

Keep offering the opportunities to come up to yours. Then they still get time with him but in your home.

saraclara · 18/02/2025 15:00

I absolutely love having my DGD for sleepovers or days out, just her and me. It's hard to describe how very different it is from having her visit with her parents. The relationship and the focus on each other is SO different.
And yes, it wouldn't be the same if it was me staying at my DDs home, either. For my DGD ( and her little sister who doesn't yet sleepover) Grandma's house is special, with their special things and things we do. And I love sharing it with them.

I also feel for your in-laws because they'll know that your child's relationship with your parents will be very different because they live near you.

I think you're making the journey your excuse. My in-laws lived the same distance away, and I wouldn't have dreamed of expecting them to do all the traveling (in general), to see our kids. We did the journey at least as much as they did, if not more.

Your in-laws really have got the short straw here, in every way. I think the best thing you can do is go up there, and let them have that sleepover while you and your DH have a hotel night.

You're being pretty thoughtless, frankly. And I suspect that if it was your parents who were the furthest away, you'd make much more effort.

MrsEG · 18/02/2025 15:01

Could you sort of meet them halfway with their overall goal which sounds like more 1-1 time? We often go on holidays with family, usually an AirBnB and all go together. Grandparents get to put them to bed, have breakfast with them etc and spend some real quality time with them, and you get to be there too with the bonus of extra hands!

I agree it’s very far away to be doing all that driving for the sake of one sleepover. And like you say, should anything happen and you’re needed, you’re not close; that would worry me too!

SheridansPortSalut · 18/02/2025 15:01

Omg, are you mad? Grab the offer with both hands! Go stay in a hotel for a night and enjoy a little adult time.

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