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Grandparents wanting sleepover 1:1

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Help3214 · 18/02/2025 14:26

Hi all, sorry for a long one a lot of context and would love a sanity check on this.

Increasingly noticing that my in laws are very keen (as in mentioning it quite a few times) for 1:1 time with my toddler who is 3, without us parents there, including a sleepover at their house. This is never said directly to us the parents, e.g “we would love to take your child for a sleepover at ours would that be ok?” Instead there is often this thing of saying it to the child “would you like to come to Nannie’s house for a sleepover wouldn’t that be lovely”. Or the most it has been said to us directly is “I could drive and meet you half way if the journey is too much”. Recently it was, “Nannie and Granddad could take him to X place soon for the day wouldn’t that be nice” (this place is a 5 hour drive from our house, but only 1 hour drive from their house, so the only way it would work as a day trip was if child
had slept over at their house).

My child is 3 (just turned 3) and they live 130 miles away so it’s a 3 hour motorway drive. If we are visiting them we would always have to stop for wees etc to get there, so it’s a long old journey especially if there is traffic and generally we have started to ask them to come here instead - it saves the car journey where child gets a bit sicky / restless, but also saves us packing for an overnight trip with all the mountains of stuff kids need. We also have a baby now so even less keen on having to pack up the car for two. Having said that, we still do make a lot of effort to go and stay - when my baby was 6 weeks old we went to stay with toddler so that the wider family could meet the baby.

We get on with them but aren’t as close as we are to my family, who live nearer. But we do go see them fairly regularly. My husband has never been crazily close to them or his sibling, and since we have been together 20 years this has always been the way - seeing them every couple of months or so, no pressure. This has changed though since we had kids as naturally they want time with their grandchild / now grandchildren, which I do get.

Out of respect for this we asked if they would like to do one day a month childcare for us, so they come up for the day whilst my child is not in nursery (he does 4 days a week) so they do get this 1:1 time with them one day a month. I felt uncomfortable asking for them to do more as they are so far away, so my parents who are much closer do the other days. On this day when child is not in nursery we tend to work from home so we are sometimes in the house too, though not always. Sometimes they take him out on their own to the park / zoo / lunch etc. Alongside that day a month, we also see them I would say for weekend visits maybe every 2 months. This feels more than enough for me, and reflects the dynamic of the relationship over the past two decades.

There have been other comments recently around school half terms / school holidays when my child starts, like “when it’s the holidays you can come on holiday to Nannie’s house for the week”.

I am finding my reaction to these comments about sleepovers / time with him quite hard. I don’t know if it’s hormones / some kind of caveman protective thing? I don’t want to be shutting them out, they are really nice people, but I’m finding it really frustrating for a number of reasons.

One is that if they genuinely wanted 1:1 time with him, I don’t know why that needs to be at their house without me and my husband there. We both work full time, child is in nursery in the week so the weekends are so so precious to us - I don’t want to ship him off on the only two days we get with him. I can’t see this changing massively in the summer holidays, I have really good annual leave with work and I would really value that time with my kids, I just can’t see me wanting him away from us for a whole week?

Two, the motorway journey is such a factor here. Train is not an option as the routes don’t connect. Both my inlaws are good drivers but they’re late 60s and it’s a 6 hour round trip, it’s such a long journey for a little one to be in the car and god forbid anything would happen. I wouldn’t be comfortable with many people driving my toddler on the motorway apart from my husband and I, so this nervousness around the drive isn’t just reserved for them. Child also gets a bit sicky on car rides. My husband’s mum once suggested a half way drive and we meet halfway to swap the child over at a petrol station / services and she take him down to theirs, so that we’re not having to go the whole way / they’re not having to go the whole way. My husband pointed out - “but mum, child would still be doing the whole journey” His mum was like “ah right yes ok”, clearly disappointed.

Three, Child has only just turned 3, so the bulk of these comments have been happening since he was 18 months +. I don’t want to deprive them of something they clearly really want (to have their only grandchild at their home on their own, and for a sleepover) but I don’t know if I’m being irrationally annoyed about it. He is still really little. He often gets nightmares in the night and calls out for us and you know what toddlers are like - temperatures, scuffed knees, sickness bugs. He is still in nappies at night. He just seems too little for me to want him to be that far away, if anything happened and we were 3 hours drive away I just feel like that’s a bit far? He is also a really emotional little kid, so I just know how it could go if something upset him.

I am finding myself getting closer to sitting his parents down and saying all of the above, and reiterating that I do want them to have quality time with him but that above what they already get with him I don’t see why these sleepovers needs to be without his parents there too - why can’t it be family time with us all together, especially when he is so young. And especially as me and my husband have full time jobs so really value the precious time we get with him. Maybe when he is older, then we could discuss it again, but for now since he is only just 3 he feels too little to me.

I genuinely can’t tell if I’m being overly cautious / negative about this. I don’t want to be labelled crazy possessive daughter in law, would love a reality check if that’s how it is coming across.

Worth mentioning that my husband remembers having sleepovers at his grandparents house, but the difference was both lived 2 minutes away - so maybe his parents are feeling nostalgic about that and wanting the same, but it’s just not comparable when we live much further. Also his mum was a SAHM, so probably by the weekend she really did want a break understandably. It’s not the same for me.

My husband is totally aligned with me, but I feel like it is probably me who is going to end up having to say this (very conflict avoidant family). How do I politely and clearly put across my point of view?

if you think I just need to suck it up and let them have this sleepover weekend please do say! Genuinely am intrigued to know if I’m overthinking it

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HollaHolla · 18/02/2025 16:12

I only had one grandparent. He lived over an hour away, and was still working when we were young. We went regularly (my Mum's dad), and sometimes stayed over for the weekend, or in the holidays, but always with Mum there, because there's no linking public transport, etc. He came to us regularly as well. I would say my siblings and I were all very close to him.
However, I yearned to have a granny who we would stay with in the holidays sometimes. My friends would almost all have a week with their granny/grandparents in the holidays, and we didn't have that.
So, my point is, if there are grandparents who are active, and willing, to be in your child's life (and they're not sociopaths, obviously), then let them. Maybe at 3, they're too young to be away for long, but maybe build up to a weekend, then a bit longer. I suspect your ILs are keen to show their little grandkids off to their friends too. My Mum LOVED doing this with my siblings' kids, and taking them to meet their friends for a coffee/outing. I think it was probably one of the real joys for her when they were littlies.
Unless you've got concerns about their capability or care, can you give it a go, for the kids sake?

SunnyCrab · 18/02/2025 16:13

Not sure what is best for everyone involved, but I imagine your in-laws feel more comfortable being themselves/planning food and activities for your son at theirs. While at yours they might not feel as able to do the cuddles that come with bedtime etc and take care of him fully? The journey sounds like such a pain though!

Achyarms · 18/02/2025 16:13

OP I get you. Almost identical here. Father in law incredibly pushy every couple of months to have dc1 to stay at their house for a week without parents.
it’s a 5-6 hour drive from our house!!! He aggressively challenges me on it every time we see them and says he sent his children to grandparents every summer holidays (school age children so slightly different to toddlers).

they want to have our child without us there as they hate the way we raise our child (only a few treats a day etc) and he’s constantly feeding our child chocolate buttons from his pocket from 7am onwards like a dog. And says misogynist things about women. I’m running out of times I can keep saying no thanks to this ‘kind offfer’ of a week away from our child which I don’t even want

OwlInTheOak · 18/02/2025 16:14

Endofyear · 18/02/2025 15:35

How lovely that your in laws are loving grandparents and want to spend time with their grandson! I think it's a very normal thing for grandchildren to go and stay with their grandparents, I used to spend a few days with both sets of grandparents in the holidays and it was a special time. It's a precious relationship and benefits children enormously. I think it's sad when I see these posts 😔 what happened to it takes a village to raise a child?

"A village" come from giving a break with local support in traditional set ups. Not sending children 3 hours away when both parents are already struggling with having too much time away from the children due to work requirements.
I can't see any way the "it takes a village" phrase works when working full time and using childcare full time. There literally isn't any time left for a village or the parents will barely see the child at all.

Soontobe60 · 18/02/2025 16:14

DameCelia · 18/02/2025 14:34

Grandparents wanting to spend time with their grandchildren? = Lovely
Grandparents wanting to spend days out with their grandchildren, no parents around? = Ok, quite nice
Grandparents wanting to spend time overnight with their grandchildren, without their parents, a size hour round trip form home, when the child in question is 3 and not always settled at night ? = That'd be a hard no from me.

Things are supposed to be in the child's best interest, not theirs!

In fairness, do you think they're worried that when child is older you won't let them go? That's why they're mentioning it now ?

Maybe explaining that child will need to be old enough to be reliably happy away from home. And that's not now.

I'd also point out that time child spends with them is taken away from time child spends with you. They may not have really realized that.

Get a grip! Having a close relationship with a grandparent IS in a child’s best interest! I can’t be doing with helicopter parents 😜

StrongandNorthern · 18/02/2025 16:19

I would leave it until he's older - mainly due to the distance involved. I wouldn't be comfortable with a 3 year old so far away..A few miles/just round the corner would be Ok as long as the child was completely comfortable with it - they could be home/you could be there quickly.
3 hours motorway driving - no.

Purplebunnie · 18/02/2025 16:27

I will be honest, I wouldn't be happy at my DGC having to travel those distances all the time on motorways so the compromise is your PIL stay at your house where your DS is comfortable and happy and you have some time away. Would that work? It is important for your DS to be absolutely comfortable with your PIL as well as your DM. You may need your PIL as well as your DM once DS has the long summer break and he needs to be comfortable with them and starting now is going to help.

DGC (2.1/2) has had loads of sleepovers with us from a quite early age and doesn't bat an eyelid. But to quantify I have them once a week anyway and DD and SIL live approx. 20 mins away. DGC has had some nightmares and also croup which was a bit mmmmm as DGC's parents where an overseas flight away at the time.

Chillilounger · 18/02/2025 16:29

You don't owe them sleepovers. Go and go and visit them every now and again at the weekend and they can see their grandchild. Maybe even stay over all together. If they mention a one on one say no.

harriethoyle · 18/02/2025 16:29

What overnights do your parents have? It’s coming across as you’re grasping for excuses why not to, tbh. If it was your parents that far away, would you travel?

Laiste · 18/02/2025 16:32

Well none of mine did sleepovers anywhere until they were 7 or 8. For me 3 would be too young to be that far away somewhere they are not used to sleeping and without me or DH.

Regardless of distance, my first step might be for the GPs to have sole care overnight at child's home a couple of times. This shows the child that parents trust those adults can do it (iykwim). Shows trust.

At 7 or 8 the child can articulate their opinions instead of just being 'sent' here and there, and ask for what they need.

ohgoshitshappening · 18/02/2025 16:32

All of you go to theirs for a few days and you have a mini-break nearby to them for two nights as part of it!

Really don't overthink this. Obviously they want to take your DC to their local park and show off to their friends. Nothing wrong with that.

goody2shooz · 18/02/2025 16:33

Achyarms · 18/02/2025 16:13

OP I get you. Almost identical here. Father in law incredibly pushy every couple of months to have dc1 to stay at their house for a week without parents.
it’s a 5-6 hour drive from our house!!! He aggressively challenges me on it every time we see them and says he sent his children to grandparents every summer holidays (school age children so slightly different to toddlers).

they want to have our child without us there as they hate the way we raise our child (only a few treats a day etc) and he’s constantly feeding our child chocolate buttons from his pocket from 7am onwards like a dog. And says misogynist things about women. I’m running out of times I can keep saying no thanks to this ‘kind offfer’ of a week away from our child which I don’t even want

Crikey - you are too patient! Perhaps be more assertive back next time, and tell him it will not be happening as long as he feeds your child shite all day! Totally maddening. Did he constantly feed your dh chocolate when he was a child?!

saraclara · 18/02/2025 16:35

Why are so many people freaked out by the idea of a three hour drive? We went to visit my in-laws about every six weeks, for the weekend. Our littlies managed fine. We used to travel Friday bedtime and Sunday bedtime quite often, so there was no boredom involved, and car travel is pretty soporific. But daytime they were fine too. Jeeze, we even drove to the middle of France when they were toddlers. We just made sure they had stuff to look at and play with. We had seatback storage bags filled with stuff for each of them. Like these (but without the tablet thing, obv)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Organiser-Screen-Kidease-Travel-Gear/dp/B01MU10CGP/ref=asc_df_B01MU10CGP?mcid=6b3404e9fb6c382fa6b63428c459dacb&hvocijid=17115591053507669048-B01MU10CGP-&hvexpln=74&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=696285193871&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=17115591053507669048&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9046026&hvtargid=pla-2281435177338&psc=1&gad_source=1

It's really unfair of OP to make the grandparents do all the travelling, and not let them host sometimes.

Dror · 18/02/2025 16:38

You're giving this far too much thought. If they outright ask you if your son can sleep over just say 'no thanks'.

Laiste · 18/02/2025 16:39

The bottom line is: we all parent differently so there'll be lots of different opinions on here OP.

Some people are happy having their baby be at GPs from a few weeks old, some, like me, like to leave it till they are 7+.

And then there's everything in between and 1000 reasons for it.

If you're not happy and you know it's not just out of spite, then speak up and tell them you're delighted they love DS so much but you won't be sending him on sleepovers till he's at least school age. That gives you a couple of years.

It would be better if your husband could do it. Parentd need to pull on their grown up pants once they have kids and face convos that are awkward. There will be more as they go through life. With schools, other parents ect. Practice by dealing with his own parents !!

BigSkyDreams · 18/02/2025 16:41

You are happy to use them for childcare on your terms only, seems wrong.

If you trust them with him during the day, why not overnight?

Help3214 · 18/02/2025 16:47

Thanks so much for all the replies. Really so helpful and I’m digesting them all.

A few replies saying it’s not fair to make the grandparents do all the travelling, just to be clear we often go and stay down there but it’s all of us (us parents included) not the DC on their own which is the ask here. When my baby was 6 weeks old (this was 2 months ago) we travelled for a weekend stay. Then before that it was us staying at Christmas. Then before that about 6 weeks prior in the autumn. So I would say pretty consistently every 2 - 3 months since DC was born we will have a weekend stay at theirs. In between those 2-3 months they have their monthly childcare day and the odd Saturday here. So we really are making the effort to go down, but it is a long journey with services for wee stops and lots of packing etc. Hence since the baby has been born (apart from that first 6 week visit) we have asked them to come up.

In terms of favouring my parents, definitely hear you and I am much much closer to my parents but my DH even acknowledges that we are much much closer as a family and as siblings. However my DC hasn’t done a sleepover there, they do it here. So I’m not favouring them in that sense but they do see them more.

I think from all these replies I could definitely suggest them coming here and my and DH going away for a bit. I just know it won’t be what they want, but I think I need to be firmer in why I’m not comfortable with the distance and him being 3 years old.

I know one day I might be dying for a childcare break and mite chew their arm off but right now working full time it just feels like I don’t see him enough while he’s still little (and have a load of working mum guilt about that as it is). So maybe they haven’t appreciated that our weekends feel quite precious in that sense, hence me thinking why can’t we spend time together as a family all together. But lots of comments saying I am changing the dynamic by being there, and that special Grandparent time comes from being on their own. I do think I will be really ok with that when they’re older. It’s just they have been inadvertedly asking for this since he was 18 months! So I guess I’m just a bit shocked they would expect us to be really relaxed about a baby / toddler being so far.

Will read a few more and digest though, thank you

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Whoyoutakingto · 18/02/2025 16:52

My DGD stayed with me alone from about aged one, often for a week or more, I had teenagers at home too all of us and she loved it, never asked about mum really. At the time they lived 3 hours away. It enabled my daughter and partner some down time and they could use their annual leave to take DGD on holiday not just when nursery/ school was closed. I used to play with her every week on zoom to keep us close. I am very privileged now that they live 10 minutes away but she still stays over a lot as Mum travels for work, I want her to feel like this is a second home.🙂

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Why? They can bond with the child when he's awake.

Dolambslikemintsauce · 18/02/2025 16:53

Ds was 6 when he slept out. When he was ready he told us so. 3 year old dc's don't need sleepovers.. Why is pandering to adults even a thing here? They had their own dc..

Newposter180 · 18/02/2025 16:59

WhereYouLeftIt · 18/02/2025 15:25

YANBU.

"My husband is totally aligned with me, but I feel like it is probably me who is going to end up having to say this (very conflict avoidant family). How do I politely and clearly put across my point of view? "

I'd pick them up on the not asking you directly, but instead trying to persuade your child to say they want a sleepover and thus back you into a corner. That is just not on!

'Margaret, I've heard you speak to DC about coming for a sleepover, you need to have that conversation with me FIRST. I don't think it's fair on DC for you to get them all excited before you've cleared it with me and DH now, is it?

That forces the issue into the light and your in-laws onto the back-foot - if they were trying to back you into a corner from where you'd have to agree to the sleepover, which looks to be their plan. Emotional blackmail has always put my back right up.

From there you'll undoubtedly get protestations starting with 'Oh, but we just thought <whatever>'. Which gives you the opening to point out that the distance and the length of time in a car to get to theirs makes it completely impractical and it's really not fair on DC to have to make that long journey at their behest. Until they outgrow travel sickness it is best all round that the adults do the travelling. Don't soften it, be firm in your tone. If they are "very conflict avoidant" that should suffice.

I voted YANBU but wow this approach is so unnecessarily aggressive and confrontational IMO. If I behaved like this with my MIL, my husband would be rightly furious about all the drama.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 18/02/2025 17:01

I'd be quite blunt, "Janet, please stop talking to Timmy about sleepovers. He's 3! He's way too young to stay at yours without us and it's not fair on him for you to keep bringing it up to him as he'll soon start to understand yet won't understand why it's not doable, leaving him with disappointment and confusion, which isn't fair on him Janet, is it?"

Nottodaythankyou123 · 18/02/2025 17:01

I am not averse to sleepovers at grandparents for my 3 year old, I won’t shy away from the fact I’ve really struggled since my youngest turned 6 months and a little respite now and again is necessary (plus she bloody loves it). However she currently only starts at my in laws maybe once a month and they live 10 minutes away.

My parents live about 120 miles away and I’ve said she can start going up for a sleepover next summer when she’s 5; mostly logistics, she can stay 2-3 nights instead of one so don’t have to do the drive twice in 2 days. I have really fond memories of the week I’d spend with my grandparents every summer, either on a little holiday or at their house, going on day trips etc and also lovely memories of spending the summer holidays with my mum, so I don’t think it’s one or the others.

So I guess personally I think YANBU at the moment but I don’t think you need to rule them out in the future when he can stay a little longer. It won’t take away from the time you get with him overall and he’ll probably treasure those memories in years to come.

AviationGeek · 18/02/2025 17:04

What's the plan if a week is too long for the little one? It's easy for Grandma to chat to a 3yr old about coming to stay. He has no concept of what that means. If he's crying for Mum and Dad what will they do? Take him home?

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