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If you buy a massive 4×4 SUV...

518 replies

bravefox · 15/02/2025 14:34

... to ask you to practise parking it in a single space? Saturday afternoon in the town multistorey and the number of huge cars parked half in a second space is 🤯

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HelplessSoul · 16/02/2025 12:35

bravefox · 16/02/2025 11:05

Just thought I'd return to point out the thread wasn't anti-suv per se, but rather to make the point that if you buy a large car the onus should be on you to learn how to park it properly

Same applies to people with small cars who equally are fucking dire at parking.

superamazingtoday · 16/02/2025 12:38

We need to start heavily taxing these fucking things and restricting their ability to enter builtup areas. They belong in rural areas.

They are heavily taxed!

ClassicalQueen · 16/02/2025 12:39

I have one, I live rurally so parking isn't often a problem, but I can park it in a bay if needs be. There should be a test for them and proof of why you need one!

User19876536484 · 16/02/2025 12:50

GreenTeaLikesMe · 16/02/2025 12:08

Idiot.

We need to start heavily taxing these fucking things and restricting their ability to enter builtup areas. They belong in rural areas.

I pay the highest rate of car tax for mine. £735 a year. It’s 16 years old, looks it, and I live “rurally”. It spends most of its time in a rural environment and gets used in fields etc.

Occasionally though I do have to travel into town. What do you expect me to do? Buy another car just so that I can do some shopping?

Plantatreetoday · 16/02/2025 12:56

bravefox · 16/02/2025 11:05

Just thought I'd return to point out the thread wasn't anti-suv per se, but rather to make the point that if you buy a large car the onus should be on you to learn how to park it properly

Police Academy Parking GIF

Surely if you buy any car the onus is on you to learn how to park it properly. Or is it just the drivers of certain cars that need to do so

Plantatreetoday · 16/02/2025 13:00

mathanxiety · 16/02/2025 03:16

They like to use their own tools, ime. And also, they probably don't all like traipsing from the nearest bus stop or train station to the site, perhaps having to use several buses or trains to get to work and then home again, or on to their side job.

Small sites possibly. Like those that work on your house or a small project but the million plus projects have everything provided on site. Individuals don’t turn up with all their own stuff and nor do they go out and buy materials for the project
Of note. This is partly down to health and safety

Luddite26 · 16/02/2025 13:24

Have to say as someone said up thread I find people driving smaller cars as big a problem as they seem to just drive in and dump. And regularly I witness women dumping small cars into parent and young children spaces and walking away without any children whatsoever. That's entitled women of all ages on all car parks. More small cars than large as well.

Luddite26 · 16/02/2025 13:28

Newbutoldfather · 16/02/2025 11:55

I think the PR for expensive 4x4s is really clever and the number of people who buy them is a testament to brilliant marketing.

I think a lot of their appeal is aspirational. Who wouldn’t want to take their two smiling children and perfectly groomed Labrador cross country for a wild picnic and then rock up to a 5 star hotel in the city to be greeted by the doorman like a long lost friend?!

The reality is most who have them just block city roads and tight car parks and they never use their off road capabilities.

A Range Rover is a brilliant car in the right environment, not around the streets of Chelsea or Wimbledon though.

Is that a reference to the tea party crash in 2023?

Organically · 16/02/2025 13:40

HelplessSoul · 16/02/2025 10:01

"I was simply explaining the realities of a ‘free market’ to someone naive enough to believe they exist."

Your explanation was tosh.

Choices exist - you seem to deny this.

Thats fine and you can happily die on that pointless hill, but the reality is, is that cars of all shapes and sizes that are NOT SUVs exist.

And people can freely choose what they want to buy - just because peoples choices dont fit your narrow world view doesnt make their selection wrong.

Car makers will continue to sell what people buy - whether thats morphed SUVs from the USA or Jupiter, if people want them and buy them, then thats what the market will cater for.

And thats what they're doing with continued sales of SUVs - because people demand them.

You’re wrong in so many ways.

But life is too short to argue with people like you on the internet.

AnSolas · 16/02/2025 13:47

GreenTeaLikesMe · 16/02/2025 12:08

Idiot.

We need to start heavily taxing these fucking things and restricting their ability to enter builtup areas. They belong in rural areas.

Singapore (i think) has that so you pay the tax and/or buy 2 cars one for weekends, one for city driving.
And if that was the city with "odd number" plates only one day then "even number" plates the next solution was 2 cars swapped to meet the requirement.

Plantatreetoday · 16/02/2025 13:55

User19876536484 · 16/02/2025 12:50

I pay the highest rate of car tax for mine. £735 a year. It’s 16 years old, looks it, and I live “rurally”. It spends most of its time in a rural environment and gets used in fields etc.

Occasionally though I do have to travel into town. What do you expect me to do? Buy another car just so that I can do some shopping?

Edited

Well exactly. We should be trying to reduce consumerism, not requiring families to have two cars, as many do already.

Which I’m guessing is fine……..🤷‍♀️

User19876536484 · 16/02/2025 13:55

AnSolas · 16/02/2025 13:47

Singapore (i think) has that so you pay the tax and/or buy 2 cars one for weekends, one for city driving.
And if that was the city with "odd number" plates only one day then "even number" plates the next solution was 2 cars swapped to meet the requirement.

I don't think it’s Singapore. It’s difficult to do anything but city driving there. Car ownership is incredibly expensive though, even for mere mortals.

Mrsbloggz · 16/02/2025 14:00

User19876536484 · 16/02/2025 13:55

I don't think it’s Singapore. It’s difficult to do anything but city driving there. Car ownership is incredibly expensive though, even for mere mortals.

And so it should be, cars are very destructive, people should walk more.

User19876536484 · 16/02/2025 14:03

Mrsbloggz · 16/02/2025 14:00

And so it should be, cars are very destructive, people should walk more.

Easy to do if you live in a tiny over populated city state. Not so easy in the UK.

Plantatreetoday · 16/02/2025 14:08

User19876536484 · 16/02/2025 14:03

Easy to do if you live in a tiny over populated city state. Not so easy in the UK.

Especially when councils and planning departments keep approving out of town shopping and housing estates miles from anywhere.

Plantatreetoday · 16/02/2025 14:16

JacquesHarlow · 16/02/2025 08:48

@JohnofWessex

”Car makers are not selling estate cars”

Ah that old trope again.

really?

So Toyota are still selling the Corolla Sports Hybrid (that’s an estate).

Skoda literally has the two best in class estate cars with the Octavia and the Superb, wonderful cars.

BMW still sell a 3 series and 5 series estate last time I looked.

Mercedes still sell an E Class estate; you can buy it with a six cylinder engine even!

Audi still sell the A4 and A6 Avant (their fancy word for estate)

Do I need to go on?

People love to say “manufacturers don’t sell estates any more” when what they really meant to say is “manufacturers are making lots of cars which I want , but I need an excuse to explain why I buy that over an estate car”.

So if Estates ( like the Octavia for example ) are OK what’s wrong with SUVs regarding parking.

Luddite26 · 16/02/2025 14:26

AnSolas · 16/02/2025 13:47

Singapore (i think) has that so you pay the tax and/or buy 2 cars one for weekends, one for city driving.
And if that was the city with "odd number" plates only one day then "even number" plates the next solution was 2 cars swapped to meet the requirement.

Really? I remember their policy of cars over 10 years old getting scrapped.or exported.

AnSolas · 16/02/2025 14:32

User19876536484 · 16/02/2025 14:03

Easy to do if you live in a tiny over populated city state. Not so easy in the UK.

Even then in hot countries industries tend to cluster as its hard to attract employees from competitors when they have to add an extra rides or go "out" extra stops on busy public transport. And more exposed to the weather the routes are the tighter the cluster.

Lemsipper · 16/02/2025 14:33

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AnSolas · 16/02/2025 14:37

Luddite26 · 16/02/2025 14:26

Really? I remember their policy of cars over 10 years old getting scrapped.or exported.

Not sure.
Japan did the same so imports of "good" second hand but hard to get parts trade was a whole cuffle too.

Flopsythebunny · 16/02/2025 14:39

MondayYogurt · 16/02/2025 12:04

All the more reason to do it then. Aren’t we missing green goals and in a billion pound financial black hole??

Mine is an ev

Organically · 16/02/2025 14:45

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And they say money can’t buy class.

OonaStubbs · 16/02/2025 14:47

The current tax on SUVs should be doubled if not tripled. People need to be encouraged to drive microcars which are smaller and more considerate.

Luddite26 · 16/02/2025 14:50

OonaStubbs · 16/02/2025 14:47

The current tax on SUVs should be doubled if not tripled. People need to be encouraged to drive microcars which are smaller and more considerate.

Micro cars? And strap the kids car seats to the roof?

AnSolas · 16/02/2025 14:54

OonaStubbs · 16/02/2025 14:47

The current tax on SUVs should be doubled if not tripled. People need to be encouraged to drive microcars which are smaller and more considerate.

They tend not to float very well and have low air intake 🤷‍♀️

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