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Kids giving other kids valentines gifts

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Eviemai · 14/02/2025 16:42

So my DD is 5, she’s in her first year of school and today she has come out of school quite teary. Her class only has 14 kids, 6 girls and 8 boys. Shes very close to 2 of the girls in the class but they all play together.

One of the little girls came out of school today with a rose, a little teddy bear, balloon and some sweets or similar. I joked to her mum “oh someone was popular”. Another little girl followed with a rose and teddy bear. Got chatting to the parents and realised that 4 of the little boys had given valentines gifts and cards to 2 of the girls, 3 to one girl and one to another. The rest of the kids weren’t part of it at all. DD got a little upset saying no one got her a valentines, I took her to the shop and let her pick some sweets and got her some flowers for her room but she still seems sad.

TBH I’m confused as to why this is a thing? Since when did little boys take valentines presents in for little girls? AIBU to think it’s really weird and if it is going to happen it should be done outside of school so no one gets their feelings hurt.

OP posts:
Hmm1234 · 15/02/2025 23:31

Eviemai · 14/02/2025 16:42

So my DD is 5, she’s in her first year of school and today she has come out of school quite teary. Her class only has 14 kids, 6 girls and 8 boys. Shes very close to 2 of the girls in the class but they all play together.

One of the little girls came out of school today with a rose, a little teddy bear, balloon and some sweets or similar. I joked to her mum “oh someone was popular”. Another little girl followed with a rose and teddy bear. Got chatting to the parents and realised that 4 of the little boys had given valentines gifts and cards to 2 of the girls, 3 to one girl and one to another. The rest of the kids weren’t part of it at all. DD got a little upset saying no one got her a valentines, I took her to the shop and let her pick some sweets and got her some flowers for her room but she still seems sad.

TBH I’m confused as to why this is a thing? Since when did little boys take valentines presents in for little girls? AIBU to think it’s really weird and if it is going to happen it should be done outside of school so no one gets their feelings hurt.

I think it’s weird too and way too early. The type of mums getting excited by this stuff locally seem to be the chavvy type

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 16/02/2025 00:15

It's a bit grim. The teacher should stop it.

Octopies · 16/02/2025 00:35

80s kid and I still have an odd memory of my Mum suggesting (forcing) I give my classmate a Valentines card and him getting really upset (crying) over it. I have no idea where her rationale came from as she was pretty conservative and shunned all American traditions like trick or treat!

mathanxiety · 16/02/2025 01:53

StrikeAlways · 15/02/2025 20:20

America has stuck again. Apparently, everyone ‘does’ Valentine’s Day (or should I say Valentines) there and now it’s happening here!

You've seen lots of posts from people who have fond memories of Valentine's Day traditions like giving classmates cards in the UK in the 70s, 80s, and 90s but you still think it's yet another dratted American thing?

mathanxiety · 16/02/2025 02:08

desperatedaysareover · 15/02/2025 09:26

Hey, @mathanxiety unfortunately you’ve misquoted me.

Re: compulsion and meaning. ‘If everyone is compelled to write a card to everyone else, most will have no meaning at all.’ was the full sentence. Splitting the sentence changes the meaning, I don’t know if you’d noticed.

Valentine’s cards can indeed have a variety of meanings and intentions, and romance wasn’t mentioned there. A lot of posters said there was a system in their school whereby if their kids wanted to send a card to someone in the class, it had to be to everyone in class. So that means you either send a card to everyone or no-one, right? Which also means if you want to make an overture of friendship to the freckly red-headed boy who likes the same stuff as you, or just big up your best mate, you must ask everyone to be your Valentine, That is compelled, because sending one is conditional on sending many, and as other PPs have said, not in the spirit of a Valentine, which means as far as I am aware ‘I like you.’ What is the meaning of the card from Sarah who told me I couldn’t come to her sleepover cos I am so fat I wouldn’t fit through her front door and which I only got cos the school said she had to send it?

Going the other direction, it could mean a kid who wanted to send a card to their one best friend also had to send one to their bully. I can see how adults might feel it’s encouraging unity, but I can also see how it’s encouraging dissonance. It’s sad some children aren’t nice to others, but not sad to acknowledge that kids know this. Wishing they didn’t have to experience social difficulties or unpleasantness isn’t the same as asking them to ignore the fact they do.

What have I just read?
How about encouraging small children to make sure their classmates don't experience rejection or exclusion or any other form of torment or bullying, and trying to bring out the best in the students so as to create a positive learning atmosphere?

Absolutely how about it. Sounds bang on. I don’t see how the two can’t co-exist. I agree we should constantly encourage our children to think of how others may feel before they act, to be nicer to each other, to include others; it should lead to a better society, and some kids apparently just don’t get that memo. I’d love it if schools could simply get this single message over - leaving people to go about their day in peace even if you don’t like them is never a bad strategy. It’s a knack some kids - and adults - just won’t learn. Just not sure how that’s furthered by blanket gestures one day a year.

What sort of a school has a culture where girls and boys as young as 9 (!) are into the boy-girl shite already?

You’ll hear no argument from me. Seem to be a lot of posters on here saying there is ‘boy-girl shite’ aplenty going on, so I don’t know that it was down to the choice of school. Perhaps we should have told him what we actually thought - that having a ‘girlfriend’ at 9 is social contagion caused by the media, retail and some parents. That’s certainly what some people would have done from the outset; my own parents wouldn’t have entertained the idea. Since she’d already asked him to go out with her, and he accepted, we felt it was better to let things be as they were, and use it as a chance to discuss attitudes towards the opposite sex. From little acorns mighty oak trees grow and all that.

There is nothing wrong with learning in childhood that everything is not for everyone. It helps to build personal resilience. Quite a few other posters have legitimately said they have concerns about the resilience of young adults that the ‘everyone is special’ narrative has led to, and I don’t see you getting up their arse.

I can think of a couple of recent examples of compelled communication and inclusion where some involved could definitely have done with building a bit of resilience. It’s a good lesson to learn early - sometimes it’s just not your day, you can’t have your way, it’s someone else’s turn. That lesson can co-exist with treating everyone as being of value and worthy of respect.

All I can say to that is that Velentine's Day as experienced in US schools has nothing to do with romantic gestures, the freckly red-haired boy who likes moths as much as you do, or in fact personal overtures of any kind.

The entire point of it is to promote kindness. Everyone has to spend a day being kind.

It is done in the context of schools that seem to be doing a far better job of promoting kindness than British schools seem to do. There is absolutely nothing wrong with promoting kindness in a school. It goes a long way toward reducing - wait for it - unkindness in all its forms, believe it or not. It's not a once a year thing.

There is everything wrong with promoting or smiling indulgent at elementary aged children giving romantic or amorous cards or gifts to children of the opposite sex and the statement that the inevitable leaving out of other children in such scenarios is a necessary character builder. What you're suggesting is that parents and teachers turn a blind eye to inappropriate relationships, to sexism, and to unkindness. If this is acceptable in British schools, I'm sorry for the children.

dafa · 16/02/2025 07:14

My son sent a small gift for his “girlfriend” he is 6, they have been “boyfriend/girlfriend” for months. We exchanged gifts after school, outside the gates.

He asked to spend his pocket money on a little gift, was a £2 small teddy. I said he could take it in but only give it to her after school so she wouldn’t have it in the classroom where she may feel embarrassed or get told off for having a toy.

I do think there should be a general rule, that exchanges happen outside of the classroom.

HuckleberryBlackcurrant · 16/02/2025 07:29

@Nothitrockbottomyet

It's a HUGE thing in the US. Every kid brings in Valentine's for thr whole class which includes sweets and trinkets.

This year I made gift bags for my kids' classmates that included bubbles, a heart shaped straw, Valentine's themed sweets and stickers. I know it sounds ridiculous. But everyone does it and I don't want my kids to be left out. The amount of sweets they get is obscene.

Plus each class has a Valentine's Party with activities, games and drinks and snacks.

My MIL even got my kids a Valentine treat, and my kids brought stuff for me and my husband home from school, cards etc. ridiculous really.

pinkstripeycat · 16/02/2025 07:34

So because someone else’s feelings get hurt others can’t share nice things. Bloody hell OP! That’s life!

I can just imagine your kid as an adult winging that their feelings are hurt because someone else got the job they wanted! 😂

desperatedaysareover · 16/02/2025 07:47

@mathanxiety

Sure, that sounds great, I’m glad it’s working.

TheMeasure · 16/02/2025 16:03

"So because someone else’s feelings get hurt others can’t share nice things."

No, it's because it's a bloody SCHOOL, not a dating agency.

Iloveeverycat · 16/02/2025 16:05

Catza · 14/02/2025 16:46

This has always been a thing, as far as I am aware. We did "Valentine's post" at school (anonymous cards) and that was in the 90s.

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