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Kids giving other kids valentines gifts

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Eviemai · 14/02/2025 16:42

So my DD is 5, she’s in her first year of school and today she has come out of school quite teary. Her class only has 14 kids, 6 girls and 8 boys. Shes very close to 2 of the girls in the class but they all play together.

One of the little girls came out of school today with a rose, a little teddy bear, balloon and some sweets or similar. I joked to her mum “oh someone was popular”. Another little girl followed with a rose and teddy bear. Got chatting to the parents and realised that 4 of the little boys had given valentines gifts and cards to 2 of the girls, 3 to one girl and one to another. The rest of the kids weren’t part of it at all. DD got a little upset saying no one got her a valentines, I took her to the shop and let her pick some sweets and got her some flowers for her room but she still seems sad.

TBH I’m confused as to why this is a thing? Since when did little boys take valentines presents in for little girls? AIBU to think it’s really weird and if it is going to happen it should be done outside of school so no one gets their feelings hurt.

OP posts:
Weddingbells6 · 14/02/2025 21:12

ThisPoisedGoldGuide · 14/02/2025 21:00

My daughter is in a very boy heavy y2 class and was the only one of 7 girls not to get anything. She was upset, I shrugged it off with her and she got over it quickly, hopefully she will forget about it. I'm all for building resilience and have a 'thats life' approach to everything but I'll admit it caught me off guard a bit, she's not going to be one of the stereotypically 'pretty, popular girls' but I thought it wouldn't be much of a thing til later. On the other hand, she's one of the best readers in the class, so it's a good lesson in not always winning I suppose!

Bless her. Boys suck anyway.

SushiWarrior · 14/02/2025 21:13

Mum to 2 boys (in the UK) and I think it’s ridiculous/hideous at that age!!
I cant wrap my head around people who think that it’s cute or sweet.

OpalSpirit · 14/02/2025 21:19

jasminocereusbritannicus · 14/02/2025 19:45

The whole ‘boyfriend/girlfriend’ thing at 7/8 years old ( year3) drives me mad!
Yesterday I had to pick up the pieces of a young girl from my class, crying, because her ‘boyfriend’ ( in the same class) had ‘dumped’ her.
I am forever saying “you’re only 8 years old you’ve got plenty of time for boyfriends/girlfriends when you are older”, because it’s all the time amongst them. Why does it get encouraged? Because it’s ‘cute’???
You hear year 5 and 6 talking about who they’re ‘dating’…really?
Don’t they get any time to just be children with friends any more… does it have to be a ‘relationship’?

Agreed, it’s not cute it’s really creepy and odd.

When my dd was 7 there was a boy who was her ‘boyfriend’.

The boys family were really into it, making jokes about buying hats etc. Even the grandmother became involved and came on school run to watch the boy give my daughter a ring!

The thing that really shocked me though was two teachers joined in and held a mock wedding one lunchtime! WTAF????

This was only a few years ago, still can’t believe all these adults thought it appropriate.

MrsDrSpencerReid · 14/02/2025 21:25

My DS took a valentine gift in for his little ‘girlfriend’ in year 1 and 2. They weren’t in the same class so it was either a gift just for her, or the whole year group!

Hes in year 10 now and the student council sells roses, cards and cookies each year on Valentine’s to be given out. It’s one of their many fundraisers for the year 12 formal. The school posted photos of it all on Facebook, it looked a lot of fun!

beautyqueeen · 14/02/2025 21:25

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm · 14/02/2025 20:45

Mmhmm, explain how that’s not what you’re saying ‘hun’?

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or if you’re a bit backwards but I’ll clear it up for you either way as simple as I can:

OP said that the child in question received the gifts because she’s blonde so in response I said that my child too received gifts for being blonde and I’m part of the problem for creating a blonde child who is preventing other non blonde children from receiving valentines gifts. (FYI this is sarcasm, just in case you miss it, again)

Hope that helps 😂

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm · 14/02/2025 21:27

beautyqueeen · 14/02/2025 21:25

I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or if you’re a bit backwards but I’ll clear it up for you either way as simple as I can:

OP said that the child in question received the gifts because she’s blonde so in response I said that my child too received gifts for being blonde and I’m part of the problem for creating a blonde child who is preventing other non blonde children from receiving valentines gifts. (FYI this is sarcasm, just in case you miss it, again)

Hope that helps 😂

You don’t have to and every post with a laughing emoji, it’s okay to speak plainly.

Mh67 · 14/02/2025 21:46

My daughter got a card when she was in nursery from a little boy.

Johnthesensible · 14/02/2025 22:52

She has had an early life lesson that she won't necessarily be popular with the boys and like many on Valentines Day will be single.

Just being honest.

Bumdishcloths · 14/02/2025 23:16

Eviemai · 14/02/2025 19:48

Does anyone else think it’s odd that
A. The child who got the most is the daughter of the head teacher of the associated school
B. The only children to get anything were the only two blonde girls

No. Hope that helps.

Also I really don’t think I could find it in myself to be bothered by this, it’s such a non issue. Most schools try to be as level a playing field as possible (uniform etc) but they can’t police everything. If a daft minority facilitate their kids doing, frankly, weird stuff like this, just teach your child that a) it’s weird and b) it doesn’t matter. Like, AT ALL.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 14/02/2025 23:29

She has had an early life lesson that she won't necessarily be popular with the boys and like many on Valentines 😆

Not true.

I was an ugly ducking with dirty blonde hair, never got a card or a wink as a child/young teenager.

As a late teen/adult, I had no shortage of valentine admirers.

Happily married to a handsome man, together 18 years.

mathanxiety · 15/02/2025 06:23

desperatedaysareover · 14/02/2025 20:56

I remember not being invited to a party for the first time aged five and it hurt my wee feelings. But it didn’t hurt nearly so much the next time cos I’d got the gist; sometimes you go, sometimes you don’t.

I was never the object of anyone’s Valentine’s affection either, but if I hadn’t had to deal with that very minor rejection, at a young age, with low stakes, was I not doomed to learning later, and more cruelly, at a much harder stage? My (blonde, funnily enough) daughter has never received a card in her life. She was never arsed about any of it as a little one. She doesn’t appear to lack willingness to feel good about herself, a lot of that is innate to be fair. She came home today amazed at some of the mad ££ spent on the gifts a few girls got but it didn’t seem to occur to her to care she didn’t personally get a zirconium ring or a three foot teddy.

If everyone is compelled to write a card to everyone else, most will have no meaning at all. Even small children know some classmates don’t like them much, some kids seem to seek every chance to make that known! So why would people who don’t like them give them a Valentine’s card? What’s the point? Ensuring no-one ever feels left out is not teaching small people to rationalise and cope with the inevitable ‘why not me?’ moments that they will never stop facing.

RE: the eight year old who got ‘dumped.’ DS also got the elbow at about nine and was wounded. He took after soppy me more 😂 It was a good learning opportunity. DH said it sounded like things had run their course, and there would be plenty of time for girls. I said that girls are people not prizes and are entitled to say they don’t want to go out with you. We pointed out as a sheer numbers game most romances end and suggested he be pleasant and treat her just the same as he always had. We also said ‘so will we just bin your mortgage application?’ - and he laughed, and that was that. He finds the memory of his reaction funny. He calls it his incel era 😂Hopefully he’ll remember it too, when he gets dumped for real. Mostly it doesn’t work out. Keep it friendly. It’s frequently not about you. Don’t get all bent out of shape.

Given the proliferation of deranged exes who are posted about on these boards maybe a few more mums and dads of yore needed a few more quiet words at a formative age about the inevitability of rejection and how to handle it with grace.

If everyone is compelled...

Well for starters, where my kids went to school, nobody was 'compelled' to participate in the Valentine's Day celebration, and secondly, there is a lot wrong with stating most will have no meaning at all as a complaint. These kids were aged 4 to 13 - of course Valentine's cards have no romantic meaning, and this is only right. They have plenty of other meanings.

The statement Even small children know some classmates don't like them much, some kids seem to take every chance to make that known! is presented as an unassailable truth - and it's horrifying to me that this culture is allowed in schools. Do teachers and school admins make no effort at all to create a school culture of acceptance, inclusion, and kindness? If not, no wonder bullying is rampant.

So why would people who don't like them give them a Valentine's card? What's the point?
God this is sad.
It's part of encouraging kids to be kind to each other, trying to find something likeable in their classmates, and fostering connection instead of allowing division to fester. It's part of a wider picture of school administrators actively promoting school spirit and kind, respectful, accepting, and supportive personal relationships among the students.

Ensuring no-one ever feels left out is not teaching small people to rationalise and cope with the inevitable "why not me?" moments that they will never stop facing
What have I just read?
How about encouraging small children to make sure their classmates don't experience rejection or exclusion or any other form of torment or bullying, and trying to bring out the best in the students so as to create a positive learning atmosphere? No wonder kids end up feeling disengaged and disconnected from school and from wider society if that's the brutal climate they have to put up with as small children in a place where they should feel safe.

What sort of a school has a culture where girls and boys as young as 9 (!) are into the boy-girl shite already?

minihoy · 15/02/2025 06:34

If you put weight on its importance in front of her she will respond and react in this way. Just get her to shrug it off and don’t dwell on it or make a big deal of it.

She has to be able to deal with disappointments like this in future and if you stress about it she will find it harder and more disappointing in the future.

Bo1978 · 15/02/2025 06:39

Can’t believe what you have said about the blonde hair girls?! I really hope you don’t share this opinion with your daughter.

Winterscoming77 · 15/02/2025 06:46

Whole class valentines makes zero sense sense to me.

The whole point was the ‘secret admirer’ back in my day

I am blonde though so now I realise it was my blonde privilege showing thanks to MN2025

KimberleyClark · 15/02/2025 06:48

mathanxiety · 15/02/2025 06:23

If everyone is compelled...

Well for starters, where my kids went to school, nobody was 'compelled' to participate in the Valentine's Day celebration, and secondly, there is a lot wrong with stating most will have no meaning at all as a complaint. These kids were aged 4 to 13 - of course Valentine's cards have no romantic meaning, and this is only right. They have plenty of other meanings.

The statement Even small children know some classmates don't like them much, some kids seem to take every chance to make that known! is presented as an unassailable truth - and it's horrifying to me that this culture is allowed in schools. Do teachers and school admins make no effort at all to create a school culture of acceptance, inclusion, and kindness? If not, no wonder bullying is rampant.

So why would people who don't like them give them a Valentine's card? What's the point?
God this is sad.
It's part of encouraging kids to be kind to each other, trying to find something likeable in their classmates, and fostering connection instead of allowing division to fester. It's part of a wider picture of school administrators actively promoting school spirit and kind, respectful, accepting, and supportive personal relationships among the students.

Ensuring no-one ever feels left out is not teaching small people to rationalise and cope with the inevitable "why not me?" moments that they will never stop facing
What have I just read?
How about encouraging small children to make sure their classmates don't experience rejection or exclusion or any other form of torment or bullying, and trying to bring out the best in the students so as to create a positive learning atmosphere? No wonder kids end up feeling disengaged and disconnected from school and from wider society if that's the brutal climate they have to put up with as small children in a place where they should feel safe.

What sort of a school has a culture where girls and boys as young as 9 (!) are into the boy-girl shite already?

I agree with you, but I see posts on here all the time who say the neighbourhood children or children at school won’t play with their child and the replies are always along the lines of you can’t force these things,or children should be allowed to choose their own friends etc.

Skymadeofdiamonds · 15/02/2025 07:33

Creeps

SezFrankly · 15/02/2025 07:40

I was in primary school in the late 70s and early 80s.. Anon valentines cards were definitely a thing. I also learned how to handle disappointment early 😂

SezFrankly · 15/02/2025 07:58

The more comments I read, the more I think OP is projecting her own feelings of brunette career inadequacy, and an amazing amount of people have a downer on one silly day which is a little bit of fun.

Life lesson 1 it won’t always be you. It’s ok. bug lesson to learn when you’re 5 and you’ve been the centre of the universe at home, but it’s still ok.

Life lesson 2 - we can’t all be headteachers at private schools, or friends with them. That’s ok too.

Life lesson 3. Some of us are brunette. That’s ok too. Bitching about 5 year olds because they’re blonde (go yourself or the internet) is not ok.

desperatedaysareover · 15/02/2025 09:26

Hey, @mathanxiety unfortunately you’ve misquoted me.

Re: compulsion and meaning. ‘If everyone is compelled to write a card to everyone else, most will have no meaning at all.’ was the full sentence. Splitting the sentence changes the meaning, I don’t know if you’d noticed.

Valentine’s cards can indeed have a variety of meanings and intentions, and romance wasn’t mentioned there. A lot of posters said there was a system in their school whereby if their kids wanted to send a card to someone in the class, it had to be to everyone in class. So that means you either send a card to everyone or no-one, right? Which also means if you want to make an overture of friendship to the freckly red-headed boy who likes the same stuff as you, or just big up your best mate, you must ask everyone to be your Valentine, That is compelled, because sending one is conditional on sending many, and as other PPs have said, not in the spirit of a Valentine, which means as far as I am aware ‘I like you.’ What is the meaning of the card from Sarah who told me I couldn’t come to her sleepover cos I am so fat I wouldn’t fit through her front door and which I only got cos the school said she had to send it?

Going the other direction, it could mean a kid who wanted to send a card to their one best friend also had to send one to their bully. I can see how adults might feel it’s encouraging unity, but I can also see how it’s encouraging dissonance. It’s sad some children aren’t nice to others, but not sad to acknowledge that kids know this. Wishing they didn’t have to experience social difficulties or unpleasantness isn’t the same as asking them to ignore the fact they do.

What have I just read?
How about encouraging small children to make sure their classmates don't experience rejection or exclusion or any other form of torment or bullying, and trying to bring out the best in the students so as to create a positive learning atmosphere?

Absolutely how about it. Sounds bang on. I don’t see how the two can’t co-exist. I agree we should constantly encourage our children to think of how others may feel before they act, to be nicer to each other, to include others; it should lead to a better society, and some kids apparently just don’t get that memo. I’d love it if schools could simply get this single message over - leaving people to go about their day in peace even if you don’t like them is never a bad strategy. It’s a knack some kids - and adults - just won’t learn. Just not sure how that’s furthered by blanket gestures one day a year.

What sort of a school has a culture where girls and boys as young as 9 (!) are into the boy-girl shite already?

You’ll hear no argument from me. Seem to be a lot of posters on here saying there is ‘boy-girl shite’ aplenty going on, so I don’t know that it was down to the choice of school. Perhaps we should have told him what we actually thought - that having a ‘girlfriend’ at 9 is social contagion caused by the media, retail and some parents. That’s certainly what some people would have done from the outset; my own parents wouldn’t have entertained the idea. Since she’d already asked him to go out with her, and he accepted, we felt it was better to let things be as they were, and use it as a chance to discuss attitudes towards the opposite sex. From little acorns mighty oak trees grow and all that.

There is nothing wrong with learning in childhood that everything is not for everyone. It helps to build personal resilience. Quite a few other posters have legitimately said they have concerns about the resilience of young adults that the ‘everyone is special’ narrative has led to, and I don’t see you getting up their arse.

I can think of a couple of recent examples of compelled communication and inclusion where some involved could definitely have done with building a bit of resilience. It’s a good lesson to learn early - sometimes it’s just not your day, you can’t have your way, it’s someone else’s turn. That lesson can co-exist with treating everyone as being of value and worthy of respect.

HellNoWay · 15/02/2025 09:30

Haha! It's not a thing at my son's primary school and never has been! But I was born in the 70s and at my primary school, every single year there was an exchange of cards, usually anonymously signed! Some girls got loads of cards, some none! That's just how it went!

You can't really control one child giving another child a gift! Especially if neither are your children!

HellNoWay · 15/02/2025 09:37

Eviemai · 14/02/2025 17:34

Thanks everyone, the other thing that makes me feel a little odd is the girl who got 3 gifts happens to be the daughter of the associated senior school head (it’s a private school but the junior school is across the road and has its own head, but everyone knows she’s the daughter of the head across the road and they are very intertwined!). Also I feel it’s no coincidence that the two little blonde girls got gifts and no one else!

Eh?? What have I just read!? What difference does hair colour make at age 4/5? What do you mean!!? So odd!!

MatronPomfrey · 15/02/2025 10:04

Valentines does seem to be getting bigger at a younger age each year in the UK but not everyone will receive something. My son has sent and received a card and chocolate in primary school but hasn’t bothered in secondary. My daughter has had a few gifts but hates the whole idea of it. Life lesson that sometimes you won’t be included.

FiveWhatByFiveWhat · 15/02/2025 10:08

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm · 14/02/2025 20:45

Mmhmm, explain how that’s not what you’re saying ‘hun’?

Jfc... because op was banging on about it being "odd" that the 2 girls to get gifts are blonde. Which is ridiculous. Which is why the pp posted JOKINGLY about being biased because her child is blonde.

See, if you actually read things, you have a better chance of understanding what is happening...

TENSsion · 15/02/2025 10:11

I was at primary school in the 90s and it was definitely a thing then.
I used to cry and beg to not have to go to school on Valentine’s Day.
Lots of the boys would bring me cards and presents. My mum would have to come to walk me home from school to help me carry it all home.
I hated it. I felt really embarrassed and guilty the other girls didn’t get anything. I felt pressured to reciprocate correctly and seem appreciative even though many of the boys were absolutely horrible. They would be physically quite abusive to me the rest of the year.
I found the whole thing really traumatic but I was also being sexually abused by a family member at the time so my reaction was always very, very extreme.
I ended up having a bit of a melt down when I was 10 and throwing everything all over the playground and locking myself in the toilets.
Everyone thought I was overdramatic and wanting even more attention for being “so popular”. I just wanted to be left alone by horrible boys and men.

Horrific.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 15/02/2025 10:13

What have I just read!? What difference does hair colour make at age 4/5? What do you mean!!? So odd!!
A lot, believe it or not.
40 years ago in junior infants/P1 the snowy blonde child was admired in comparison to the their peers.
Not much has changed.
@TENSsion 💐

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