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Behaviour towards our dog..

219 replies

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 16:01

Sorry it’s a long one. This is not about my dog’s behaviour but background for context..
We rescued a puppy before lockdown and after lockdown he was very reactive to any male visitors ( he was fine with children and women) coming to the house. He is now ok with people he knows but barks at any men he doesn’t know. He is a big Labrador and can look scary. He is ok outside, in other people’s houses, hotels etc. We tried everything and at the end his psychologist diagnosed him with anxiety and prescribed Prozac.
My best friend has a boyfriend ( let’s call him Ben ) and they have been seeing each other for about 7months. He didn’t meet her children yet but we met him a few times. I mentioned our dog to Ben and I said once the dog gets to know him outside the house, we will have them over for dinner. He thought it’s ridiculous that he needs to make an effort to meet the dog. I completely understand that but that’s what all of our other friends did and it worked. Ben said this anxious behaviour should be beaten out of him. My friend’s teenage daughter is suffering with anxiety and although I know dogs and humans are not the same, beating is never the answer! Last Sunday, we were planning to go for a dog walk and my friend asked if she and Ben can come along and then we can go to the pub for lunch. On the walk Ben was making mean remarks about our dog for no reason. In the pub, our dog would usually sit under the table by my DP’s feet but it takes him maybe 10min to settle. Normally we ignore him and he is fine. Ben was constantly bothering him, growling in his face and trying to pull him close. We were all telling him to leave the dog alone but he said he is just playing. As I predicted our dog started barking at him and Ben started barking back at him. My DP is holding on to the dog and I’m telling Ben to stop provoking him. The whole pub was looking at us like we are insane. I said to Ben to leave the dog alone because he can bite him. I only said that to stop him barking at the dog like a lunatic. Our dog never bitten anyone but it’s an animal and so it’s unpredictable when provoked. Ben said ( with the smirk on his face )that if he bites him he will need to be put down. After the whole scene my DP and I left. Later I spoke to my friend and she said the reason Ben was like that because he is scared of the dogs as he was once bitten. Would you be provoking a dog if you are scared of it? I know not everyone likes dogs. But those comments make me very wary of him and makes me think he is not as kind as he portrayed himself. Or I am overthinking it? Again this is not about the dog rather about Ben’s behaviour. There is something bothering me and I can’t put my finger on it. And AIBU to tell my friend to rethink the relationship?

OP posts:
oakleaffy · 12/02/2025 18:38

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 18:35

Trying to figure out how to respond to individual post but I can’t without copying them.
Anyway, after Ben’s first comment about beating dogs, yes it shocked me, I have explained that why it’s never a way to go. He never said anything about not liking dogs and also talking about the dog was never a priority. I only mentioned it because we were having a dinner at my friends house and I said next time you can come to ours but the dog..,
All the other times we met him, he was lovely, charming, kind and I thought my friend met someone really good. He was super helpful with our car issues and my computer at work. Btw he was always the one offering to help. I now know that’s not the case. My DP has actually read me the definition psychopath and it really fits! So tomorrow I’m having breakfast after school drop off with my friend and try to somehow make her see what we see

So Ben is superficially charming?

Red flag.

Animal abusers are often violent to children and women, too.

He’s foul.

VeryDeepEverything · 12/02/2025 18:38

Been is a total dick and I wouldn't go near him again, I'd also tell my friend this and why.
'Beating it out of him'. Sure that's a great way to improve behaviour. 🙄

Obscurial · 12/02/2025 18:39

OnlyThickBeans · 12/02/2025 16:03

I do think it’s totally unnecessary that your dog has to acclimatise to (and I say this as someone with labs). Labs typically love attention and visitors so it’s odd that you feel this is a requirement.

Bens behaviour towards your dog sounds odd, so it probably solves your first problem as Im not sure I’d want to invite him based on his behaviour.

Er, the op explained why. It’s quite normal to allow reactive dogs to get used to new people in neutral territory.

I have a dog whose breed is typically laid back and friendly, mine is a reactive nightmare, and had Ben behaved with mine as he did with OP’s dog she would have bitten him!

OP YANBU. You can get a feel of who someone is by how they treat animals, this is a massive red flag. Unfortunately your friend might not see it as that yet.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 12/02/2025 18:41

Bye bye Ben 😕

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 18:43

Oh yes and my friend thought he was a f…idiot how he behaved in the pub but then he broke down and said he had a bad experience as he was bitten by dog and it left him traumatised that’s why he behaved like he did. Apparently you need to bark back at dogs to make them understand he is Alfa. That’s his explanation

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VeryDeepEverything · 12/02/2025 18:44

I wouldn't normally suggest sharing a thread with the subject of the thread, but since it is your friend bf who is the subject I'd be tempted to share it with your friend... Might be an eye opener for her?
Who on earth advocates beating a dog in response to it's behaviour and then goes out of their way to wind the dog up!!?

oakleaffy · 12/02/2025 18:44

Oldraver · 12/02/2025 18:34

Ben sounds deranged, who barks and growls at a dog (who he knows is reactive) in a pub. What did your friend make of his behaviour ,,?

It sounds like seriously deranged behaviour.
An adult barking in a dog’s face?
What a way to get bitten, and a dog’s reflexes are infinitely faster than a human’s-
I expect people were eyeballing a grown man winding a dog up and thinking “ what’s wrong with this idiot?”

oakleaffy · 12/02/2025 18:46

VeryDeepEverything · 12/02/2025 18:44

I wouldn't normally suggest sharing a thread with the subject of the thread, but since it is your friend bf who is the subject I'd be tempted to share it with your friend... Might be an eye opener for her?
Who on earth advocates beating a dog in response to it's behaviour and then goes out of their way to wind the dog up!!?

Good idea! Ben has some seriously worrying traits.

Vitriolinsanity · 12/02/2025 18:48

Ben is the dick. Not dog.

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 18:49

Our dog loved my step dad too. He got use to other people but he never got use to my DP’s friend who visited quite a lot but our dog never warmed to him

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oakleaffy · 12/02/2025 18:50

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 18:43

Oh yes and my friend thought he was a f…idiot how he behaved in the pub but then he broke down and said he had a bad experience as he was bitten by dog and it left him traumatised that’s why he behaved like he did. Apparently you need to bark back at dogs to make them understand he is Alfa. That’s his explanation

I’ve heard it all now.

This man is actually imbecilic.

The Alpha theory went out long ago.

Domestic dogs aren’t wolves-

One does need to be in control of a dog in a house, and on walks, but that doesn’t happen by barking or hitting.

That’s absolute nonsense.

A dog has to respect and trust his or her owner, that comes via sensible training and boundaries ( just as with children)

Theseventhmagpie · 12/02/2025 18:51

OP are you totally nuts? This Ben is a revolting piece of shit. Do not let him near your dog again and I’d be ending the friendship if your friend continues her relationship with this psychopath.

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 18:51

Yes that’s what it is. Superficially charming! But then you see some behaviour which raises red flags

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Vitriolinsanity · 12/02/2025 18:52

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 18:43

Oh yes and my friend thought he was a f…idiot how he behaved in the pub but then he broke down and said he had a bad experience as he was bitten by dog and it left him traumatised that’s why he behaved like he did. Apparently you need to bark back at dogs to make them understand he is Alfa. That’s his explanation

Again Ben is a dick.

A GSD scaled a 6ft gate and bit my arse as I roller skated past it's house when I was 9. Very shaken (me, not dog).

I've had (counts fingers) 6 dogs. Most of my friends have dogs. I'm not over fond of GSD's (although I think they're handsome dogs) but I certainly don't go around barking in a dog's sodding face as some kind of therapy/psyche out.

VickyEadieofThigh · 12/02/2025 18:53

Purplebunnie · 12/02/2025 16:04

Ben would not be stepping foot in my house. I don't have dogs but I can't abide abuse of any animal and I view Ben's behaviour as abuse

That awful man would never get inside my house.

VickyEadieofThigh · 12/02/2025 18:56

oakleaffy · 12/02/2025 18:50

I’ve heard it all now.

This man is actually imbecilic.

The Alpha theory went out long ago.

Domestic dogs aren’t wolves-

One does need to be in control of a dog in a house, and on walks, but that doesn’t happen by barking or hitting.

That’s absolute nonsense.

A dog has to respect and trust his or her owner, that comes via sensible training and boundaries ( just as with children)

Edited

This here. You don't train dogs by being aggressive to them.

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 18:56

oakleaffy · 12/02/2025 18:50

I’ve heard it all now.

This man is actually imbecilic.

The Alpha theory went out long ago.

Domestic dogs aren’t wolves-

One does need to be in control of a dog in a house, and on walks, but that doesn’t happen by barking or hitting.

That’s absolute nonsense.

A dog has to respect and trust his or her owner, that comes via sensible training and boundaries ( just as with children)

Edited

Yes I know that but that’s the explanation he gave to my friend. Our dog is trained he has excellent recall and obeys commands but he won’t stop barking when unknown male come into our house.

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DungareesTrombonesDinos · 12/02/2025 18:56

I wouldn't have Ben and his shitty violent attitude anywhere near my lovely dog. Fuck Ben.

Hedgerow2 · 12/02/2025 18:57

@NormasArse - they didn't tell him to stop and then leave. There was a whole load of Ben tormenting their dog before they left.

From the op -

Ben was constantly bothering him, growling in his face and trying to pull him close. We were all telling him to leave the dog alone but he said he is just playing. As I predicted our dog started barking at him and Ben started barking back at him. My DP is holding on to the dog and I’m telling Ben to stop provoking him. The whole pub was looking at us like we are insane. I said to Ben to leave the dog alone because he can bite him. I only said that to stop him barking at the dog like a lunatic. Our dog never bitten anyone but it’s an animal and so it’s unpredictable when provoked. Ben said ( with the smirk on his face )that if he bites him he will need to be put down. After the whole scene my DP and I left

Oasister · 12/02/2025 19:06

Ben is clearly a first rate dick. Don't give him any benefit of the doubt. Keep your lovely dog away from him. By all means tell your friend why you won't be anywhere near the narcissistic dick. If she stays with him, distance yourself from her for the foreseeable. Don't worry she'll back when it all goes tits up.

Frequency · 12/02/2025 19:07

Ben needs to be beaten until he learns how to behave in public, that's how it works, right?

Seriously though, OP, I'd be cutting my friend out too for staying with this prick.

Lazydomestic · 12/02/2025 19:10

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 18:35

Trying to figure out how to respond to individual post but I can’t without copying them.
Anyway, after Ben’s first comment about beating dogs, yes it shocked me, I have explained that why it’s never a way to go. He never said anything about not liking dogs and also talking about the dog was never a priority. I only mentioned it because we were having a dinner at my friends house and I said next time you can come to ours but the dog..,
All the other times we met him, he was lovely, charming, kind and I thought my friend met someone really good. He was super helpful with our car issues and my computer at work. Btw he was always the one offering to help. I now know that’s not the case. My DP has actually read me the definition psychopath and it really fits! So tomorrow I’m having breakfast after school drop off with my friend and try to somehow make her see what we see

My DP has actually read me the definition psychopath and it really fits! So tomorrow I’m having breakfast after school drop off with my friend and try to somehow make her see what we see

Get her a book on the psychology of serial killers.

Anybody tried that with my dog & it would find out pretty sharpish the owner is far scarier than the dog is !

SociopathicGorilla · 12/02/2025 19:15

You should have left straight away, not subjected your dog to that behavIyour.

Ben is a dickhead. Your friend is a dickhead. Ditch the pair of them and save yourself the inevitable hours of phone calls consoling her when he treats her like shit.

heroinechic · 12/02/2025 19:22

I'm laughing with my DH at the idea of Ben barking at your dog to establish himself as the alpha in the middle of a pub 😂

ClockingOffers · 12/02/2025 19:24

Surely your friend will ditch Ben after seeing what an arsehole he is? If she doesn’t, I’d only meet up with her when he’s not around.

It’s not up to you to make her see sense.

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