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Behaviour towards our dog..

219 replies

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 16:01

Sorry it’s a long one. This is not about my dog’s behaviour but background for context..
We rescued a puppy before lockdown and after lockdown he was very reactive to any male visitors ( he was fine with children and women) coming to the house. He is now ok with people he knows but barks at any men he doesn’t know. He is a big Labrador and can look scary. He is ok outside, in other people’s houses, hotels etc. We tried everything and at the end his psychologist diagnosed him with anxiety and prescribed Prozac.
My best friend has a boyfriend ( let’s call him Ben ) and they have been seeing each other for about 7months. He didn’t meet her children yet but we met him a few times. I mentioned our dog to Ben and I said once the dog gets to know him outside the house, we will have them over for dinner. He thought it’s ridiculous that he needs to make an effort to meet the dog. I completely understand that but that’s what all of our other friends did and it worked. Ben said this anxious behaviour should be beaten out of him. My friend’s teenage daughter is suffering with anxiety and although I know dogs and humans are not the same, beating is never the answer! Last Sunday, we were planning to go for a dog walk and my friend asked if she and Ben can come along and then we can go to the pub for lunch. On the walk Ben was making mean remarks about our dog for no reason. In the pub, our dog would usually sit under the table by my DP’s feet but it takes him maybe 10min to settle. Normally we ignore him and he is fine. Ben was constantly bothering him, growling in his face and trying to pull him close. We were all telling him to leave the dog alone but he said he is just playing. As I predicted our dog started barking at him and Ben started barking back at him. My DP is holding on to the dog and I’m telling Ben to stop provoking him. The whole pub was looking at us like we are insane. I said to Ben to leave the dog alone because he can bite him. I only said that to stop him barking at the dog like a lunatic. Our dog never bitten anyone but it’s an animal and so it’s unpredictable when provoked. Ben said ( with the smirk on his face )that if he bites him he will need to be put down. After the whole scene my DP and I left. Later I spoke to my friend and she said the reason Ben was like that because he is scared of the dogs as he was once bitten. Would you be provoking a dog if you are scared of it? I know not everyone likes dogs. But those comments make me very wary of him and makes me think he is not as kind as he portrayed himself. Or I am overthinking it? Again this is not about the dog rather about Ben’s behaviour. There is something bothering me and I can’t put my finger on it. And AIBU to tell my friend to rethink the relationship?

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Hollietree · 12/02/2025 16:51

You can’t tell your best friend to rethink her relationship.

……However if asked I would be honest and tell her I didn’t like Ben and that I don’t want to socialise with him again in the future. Hopefully that would help her rethink things herself.

BMW6 · 12/02/2025 16:52

Constantsoul · 12/02/2025 16:48

He’s probably happy to see the back of all dogs. He’s not alone.

Perfectly fine not to want to be around dogs - you can always say No Thanks

But if you advocate Beating any animal you are frankly a psycho and should not be around people let alone animals.

Onleemoi · 12/02/2025 16:53

Constantsoul · 12/02/2025 16:35

What is wrong with disliking dogs?

There’s something wrong with behaving like a bellend and for making excuses for someone behaving like a bellend.

Funnywonder · 12/02/2025 16:53

I'm usually one of the first on here agreeing with posters about badly behaved dogs/dogs everywhere/dog poo etc, but for anyone to suggest beating a dog is absolutely abhorrent. He is under no obligation to meet your dog at all if he's really that scared, but to meet the dog and behave the way he did was utterly ridiculous.

Vaxtable · 12/02/2025 16:54

Ben would have been spoken to very sharply as soon as he started and I would have left long before the pub and wouldn’t be meeting him again, ever

And no he doesn’t sound frightened of dogs, someone who is frightened would not get in their face

i would not be meeting with him again

jolota · 12/02/2025 16:54

I've had a rescue that was anxious around men it hadn't met before. Something in its past that many of us can relate to...
Its very unreasonable behaviour to be deliberately provoking your dog in that way, the comment about beating the dog was horrible.
I agree that people who've been bitten by dogs in the past are usually wary of them and avoid interacting with them - his behaviour doesn't appear to indicate any fear. Your friend is just making excuses for him.
I wouldn't let this man in my house.

Branleuse · 12/02/2025 16:55

Id make it clear to your friend too, that being unkind to animals is a huge red flag. That you understand she likes him, but that you are upset and concerned with how he has acted with your dog, and the comments he has made.

Chicheguevara · 12/02/2025 16:56

Ben is a dick who clearly doesn’t listen. Best avoided I reckon. I hope your best friend has taken note of his stupid and aggressive behaviour towards a dog.
Beat anxiety out of a dog! I don’t think so. Maybe you could beat idiocy out of him, but you can’t fix stupid, in my opinion.

Owner of nervous dog myself and, had he tried that, Dog and I would be leaving and he’d have got a tongue lashing that would have scarred him for life. I don’t hold with cruel treatment of pets, not even for a second.
Ben has shown you all who he is. Best you all believe him.

IchiNiSanShiGo · 12/02/2025 16:56

I don’t think you can tell your friend to rethink her relationship, but I do think you can sit her down and have a proper conversation about Ben. At this point, it’s a conversation about Ben, the dog is just a catalyst.

Was he rude and obnoxious the previous times you’ve met?

If he’s scared of dogs, why would they invite themselves on a dog walk with you?

The joy he took in mentioning beating an animal, and having it put down, is of serious concern.

Ben’s behaviour in the pub was disrespectful to you as her friends, it was cruel to the dog, and disruptive to everyone else in the pub.

If your friend is considering continuing this relationship, I think you need to be clear about whether you’re prepared to meet up with Ben or not.

Hoppinggreen · 12/02/2025 16:58

I think I might have bitten Ben myself if he did that to my dog

rrrrrreatt · 12/02/2025 16:58

It’s very odd that your friend said this behaviour is driven by a fear of dogs. I used to be really scared of cats (I have two now but I’m still not a natural cat person) and the last thing I’d have done is get really up in their space!!

I’d make it clear to your friend Ben isn’t welcome round yours and let her make of that what she will. I don’t trust anyone who’s unkind to animals and you have a responsibility to your dog, and any other pets, to ensure their home is a safe place where they feel comfortable.

MitchellMummy · 12/02/2025 16:59

In your position I would never see Ben again, but suggest meeting the friend separately without the * boyfriend. If I saw him walking towards me when I had the dog with me I'd walk the other way. Not sure you can tell your friend to rethink her relationship but it may give her food for thought if you don't see Ben again. I do hope your friend and her daughter will be OK.

summer3219 · 12/02/2025 16:59

Your friend is with someone who thinks bullying someone into behaving how they want is acceptable. To me it doesn't matter whether that is an animal, a child or an adult partner. He clearly has the mentality to abuse anyone he deems weaker than himself, which could, one day, include your friend or her daughter. I would make it clear what you think of him, what she does with the information is on her.

Spidey66 · 12/02/2025 17:00

Yeah beating the anxiety out of the dog would really work.🙄

Ben sounds like a prick and while I wouldn't like him, it's up to your friend who she has a relationship with.

EveryonesFavouriteNumber · 12/02/2025 17:00

That's the last time Ben would be anywhere near my dog. They always say you should trust your dog too!

Gerwurtztraminer · 12/02/2025 17:01

I'm wondering if Ben is deliberately trying to create tension between you and your friend and isolate her from her friends. Classic abuser red flag behaviour.

Rather then tell her to reconsider the relationships, simply tell her what you saw and felt at the time and how it made you feel/your concerns about him as person. She may try to defend him a gain but just say no, how he behaved isn't normal for someone scared of dogs. Most being who've been bitten would be avoiding a dog, not winding it up and getting in its face barking at it. Be clear that is a bizarre excuse.

Tell her that due to this you won't be seeing him again but you still want to see your friend. Make sure she understands that if he tries to get her to cut you off and not see you, that is a 'red flag'.

FOJN · 12/02/2025 17:01

Thinking about it I wonder if his behaviour towards your dog is part of a strategy to isolate your friend from her other friends.

You can't do anything about it but it seems very odd for him to completely ignore your instruction to leave the dog alone. It's like he wanted to piss you off.

businessflop25 · 12/02/2025 17:01

Dogs are pretty good judges of character!

Ben wouldn't be coming near me or my dog again. I would have left the walk and not gone to the pub. He shouldn't be allowed near animals.

NiftyKoala · 12/02/2025 17:02

What Ben said about beating is terrible yes. But on the same hand you adore your dog and are willing to go to great lengths for him which is great. You cannot expect Ben or the next Ben or the Ben after to go along with this. That's just life when you have a dog with these kind of issues.

HauntedBungalow · 12/02/2025 17:03

I think you should let Ben and the dog fight it out.

Uricon2 · 12/02/2025 17:03

I would never, ever have him in the same space as your dog again. The scared of dogs thing is rubbish, people who are don't behave like, they avoid and definitely do not provoke

@Constantsoul do you think his behaviour is OK? Really?

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 12/02/2025 17:06

“beaten out”?

That would have been it with me.

No child, dog or any other creature needs anything beaten out of them.

Ben is a twat.

steff13 · 12/02/2025 17:06

You can dislike dogs without antagonizing them. People know that, right? I'm beginning wonder, based on some of the posts. Not liking dogs makes you a person who doesn't like dogs. Not liking dogs and then antagonizing dogs makes you an asshole.

Ben was invited to go on a dog walk, and then went. If he doesn't like dogs or is afraid of dogs he could have said "no thanks."

SecondClassmyass · 12/02/2025 17:07

Yep, the dog is a red herring. Ben wants your friend to himself so used his sinister ways to put a wedge between you two. Only an unhinged abuser would start bothering a reactive dog and cause such a scene on a first meeting with his girlfriend’s friends.

Oreosareawful · 12/02/2025 17:08

I don’t like dogs, but Ben is a dick.