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Behaviour towards our dog..

219 replies

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 16:01

Sorry it’s a long one. This is not about my dog’s behaviour but background for context..
We rescued a puppy before lockdown and after lockdown he was very reactive to any male visitors ( he was fine with children and women) coming to the house. He is now ok with people he knows but barks at any men he doesn’t know. He is a big Labrador and can look scary. He is ok outside, in other people’s houses, hotels etc. We tried everything and at the end his psychologist diagnosed him with anxiety and prescribed Prozac.
My best friend has a boyfriend ( let’s call him Ben ) and they have been seeing each other for about 7months. He didn’t meet her children yet but we met him a few times. I mentioned our dog to Ben and I said once the dog gets to know him outside the house, we will have them over for dinner. He thought it’s ridiculous that he needs to make an effort to meet the dog. I completely understand that but that’s what all of our other friends did and it worked. Ben said this anxious behaviour should be beaten out of him. My friend’s teenage daughter is suffering with anxiety and although I know dogs and humans are not the same, beating is never the answer! Last Sunday, we were planning to go for a dog walk and my friend asked if she and Ben can come along and then we can go to the pub for lunch. On the walk Ben was making mean remarks about our dog for no reason. In the pub, our dog would usually sit under the table by my DP’s feet but it takes him maybe 10min to settle. Normally we ignore him and he is fine. Ben was constantly bothering him, growling in his face and trying to pull him close. We were all telling him to leave the dog alone but he said he is just playing. As I predicted our dog started barking at him and Ben started barking back at him. My DP is holding on to the dog and I’m telling Ben to stop provoking him. The whole pub was looking at us like we are insane. I said to Ben to leave the dog alone because he can bite him. I only said that to stop him barking at the dog like a lunatic. Our dog never bitten anyone but it’s an animal and so it’s unpredictable when provoked. Ben said ( with the smirk on his face )that if he bites him he will need to be put down. After the whole scene my DP and I left. Later I spoke to my friend and she said the reason Ben was like that because he is scared of the dogs as he was once bitten. Would you be provoking a dog if you are scared of it? I know not everyone likes dogs. But those comments make me very wary of him and makes me think he is not as kind as he portrayed himself. Or I am overthinking it? Again this is not about the dog rather about Ben’s behaviour. There is something bothering me and I can’t put my finger on it. And AIBU to tell my friend to rethink the relationship?

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SecondClassmyass · 12/02/2025 17:08

steff13 · 12/02/2025 17:06

You can dislike dogs without antagonizing them. People know that, right? I'm beginning wonder, based on some of the posts. Not liking dogs makes you a person who doesn't like dogs. Not liking dogs and then antagonizing dogs makes you an asshole.

Ben was invited to go on a dog walk, and then went. If he doesn't like dogs or is afraid of dogs he could have said "no thanks."

P.s Ben was not invited on a walk- they invited themselves.

theteachesofleeches · 12/02/2025 17:09

Do you think Ben has done this to separate your friend and isolate her? A friends bf was very unpleasant to our DC and we didn't see them again, within 6 months she was totally isolated.

Ghosttofu99 · 12/02/2025 17:09

Purplebunnie · 12/02/2025 16:04

Ben would not be stepping foot in my house. I don't have dogs but I can't abide abuse of any animal and I view Ben's behaviour as abuse

This.

Im fairly anti irresponsible pet owners and their dogs. (You sound responsible but for context I’ve had three dog incidents in the past two weeks alone) but anyone who says they would beat a dog or any animal/human is bats**t and I wouldn’t want anything to do with them.

You can’t dictate your friends relationship but, putting yourself aside, you can’t dictate tell her he is swinging a few red flags and to be careful. If he’d beat a dog he’d beat a child imo.

TillyKister · 12/02/2025 17:10

You can tell a lot about a person, by the way they interact and behave towards animals. Ben wouldn't be somebody I'd ever want to associate with again. He certainly wouldn't be allowed anywhere near my dog either.

It's little wonder why he got bitten by a dog, he was probably provoking that one too!

Fencehedge · 12/02/2025 17:10

theteachesofleeches · 12/02/2025 17:09

Do you think Ben has done this to separate your friend and isolate her? A friends bf was very unpleasant to our DC and we didn't see them again, within 6 months she was totally isolated.

Hmm, excellent point. Especially as he could have a vulnerable female teen in his sights.

Noshowlomo · 12/02/2025 17:11

Ben is a dick. Fuck Ben

Giggorata · 12/02/2025 17:12

This is one for the classic Mumsnet “when someone shows you who they are…” etc.
What a wankstain.

Beat it out of him? Deliberately provoking him? Threatening that he would be put down?
He wouldn't get near my dog or my house again. Or my children or any vulnerable person or animal.

oakleaffy · 12/02/2025 17:16

There are SO many “reactive “ dogs around these days- infinitely more than 1990’s - bad breeding, poor socialisation during early weeks -
So many dogs are on antidepressant drugs - humans have to be to blame.

But that Ben sounds an arsehole.
Probably people like him who cause aggression in dogs.

People are like their dogs, generally .

treesandsun · 12/02/2025 17:16

"He thought it’s ridiculous that he needs to make an effort to meet the dog. " Well don't come for fucking dinner then Ben.

". Ben said this anxious behaviour should be beaten out of him." Ben is an absolute prick and Ben wants putting down.

Tell your friend - I will just see you on your own as your boyfriend is a massive prick.

RanchRat · 12/02/2025 17:17

Ben is a cunt and an animal abuser and fucking thick as mince.

bloodredfeaturewall · 12/02/2025 17:17

...no wonder ben has been bitten before...

he sounds a right twat.

I don't like dogs and think way too many places allie dogs. but I would never hurt or harrass a pet on purpose.

not liking dogs doesn't make people behaving like shit around dogs

ginasevern · 12/02/2025 17:18

OnlyThickBeans · 12/02/2025 16:03

I do think it’s totally unnecessary that your dog has to acclimatise to (and I say this as someone with labs). Labs typically love attention and visitors so it’s odd that you feel this is a requirement.

Bens behaviour towards your dog sounds odd, so it probably solves your first problem as Im not sure I’d want to invite him based on his behaviour.

Bollocks. Have you ever had a rescue dog? He was almost certainly abused by a man, hence his total distrust of them. I mean, it's not exactly a wild theory is it!

As for Ben, he sounds sadistic. I wouldn't be surprised to find he is an animal abuser or at least a potential one. Personally OP, I'd have nothing to do with him, best friend's boyfriend or not. The last thing the dog needs is this potentially dangerous prick in his life - or your life for that matter. I'm surprised you need to ask.

YouOKHun · 12/02/2025 17:18

Anotherparkingthread · 12/02/2025 16:50

Ben is a coward doing a big man act because he's afraid of a fucking dog. He is also scum.

Your friend is a tool for dating this pos and inflicting him on anybody else. Dump them both lol

I agree @Anotherparkingthread he doesn't like dogs because he's frightened of them - and that's fair enough. But the antagonistic stuff is him desperately trying to cover up his fear and show the rest of you, not just the dog, who is in charge.

You can't say anything to your friend about the doubts his behaviour raises. I'd just keep the dog away from any mixing with the friend's BF and keep a quiet watch in case this [possibly isolated] behaviour is indicative of something else.

Fencehedge · 12/02/2025 17:19

Imagine letting Ben shag you... Poor woman's self-esteem must be absolutely rock bottom

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 12/02/2025 17:19

Ben is an animal abuser.

Your friend is likely going to be abused by him as well as her daughter.

He’s a sick individual and her excuse makes no sense.

KimberleyClark · 12/02/2025 17:19

Anyone who thinks beating dogs is OK would not be welcome in your house and I would not want to socialise with them either, with or without the dog.

plominoagain · 12/02/2025 17:24

I wonder what Ben’s going to do when faced with a challenging kid then ? If beating is his go to answer, then I’d lay odds it wouldn’t matter whether it was a child or a dog in front of him . And all that he’s afraid of dogs ? Is he, my arse . People who are afraid of dogs give them a very wide berth . They don’t get in their face and wind them up to provoke them. He’s just a bullying cunt, and whoever said about trying to isolate your friend is bang on the money , I reckon.

TorroFerney · 12/02/2025 17:27

I don’t spend my leisure time with thick people so I’d not have him in my company. However if your friend hasn’t by now thought what a cockwomble then you telling her won’t help. Fact that she’s made an excuse would suggest you are flogging a dead horse if you’ll pardon the metaphor.

lot of serial killers start by taunting animals …….

WifeImprovementWorksInProgress · 12/02/2025 17:28

Wow, Ben is a massive embarrassing twat.
At least you don't need to worry about how your dog will take to him now, as he's pretty much guaranteed he won't be invited round for dinner!
Hopefully your friend will realise he's an eejit and dump soon.

ttcat37 · 12/02/2025 17:40

Ben’s desperate need to overpower and put your dog ‘in its place’ with such misplaced overconfidence would be a big old red flag for me. He wouldn’t be stepping foot in my house again and I wouldn’t want to spend any time with him. Anybody needing to prove a point against an animal like that is a wrong’un.

Fluffylittlebubbles · 12/02/2025 17:45

If he's anxious around dog why doesn't your friend just beat him to solve it? YANBU

MrsDoubtfire123 · 12/02/2025 17:46

Do not have Ben in the vicinity of your dog- ever. Maintain your friendship with your friend (if you must) - but without Ben. You don’t want to put your dog in a situation where he is provoked by Ben- that could end badly for your dog. Ben is a moron!

TheFormidableMrsC · 12/02/2025 17:46

I hope Ben's desire to beat anxiety out of your dog doesn't extend to your friend's child.

He sounds like an absolute arsehole and your friend is already making excuses. I'm scared of dogs so I give them a wide berth. The absolute last thing I'd do is provoke and antagonise them. Ben would not be setting foot anywhere near me going forward. I hope your friend wakes up and smells the coffee asap.

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 17:49

Daleksatemyshed · 12/02/2025 16:20

Your friend says Ben's like this because a dog bit him but I don't believe that Op, if he'd been bitten he'd steer clear of yours. I understand your unease about Ben, suggesting beating any animal would have someone straight off my friends list and he deliberately tried to provoke your dog to make trouble.
Is Ben very full of himself Op? It sounds like he didn't like making any concessions about coming to your home as if he thinks he's too important for that. I'd try and see your friend alone so you can talk freely, I have a feeling Ben may turn out to be nasty to people as well and your friend might need you

Hi, no he didn’t seem full of himself. The few times we met him, he was very nice and kind. That’s why those comments were a red flag. If he didn’t want to come over for dinner that’s ok it was just a passing comment I made and in no way those plans were set in place. It’s almost like he is charming and nice on the outside but there is something not nice underneath the facade

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OnlyThickBeans · 12/02/2025 17:49

All those cross with me, in my post at 16:17 I said “Sorry I only skimmed the OP and missed where OP said the dog was reactive.”

@DaisyChain505
@Stickystickystick
@ginasevern

and anyone else who has quoted me.