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Behaviour towards our dog..

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JadeMember · 12/02/2025 16:01

Sorry it’s a long one. This is not about my dog’s behaviour but background for context..
We rescued a puppy before lockdown and after lockdown he was very reactive to any male visitors ( he was fine with children and women) coming to the house. He is now ok with people he knows but barks at any men he doesn’t know. He is a big Labrador and can look scary. He is ok outside, in other people’s houses, hotels etc. We tried everything and at the end his psychologist diagnosed him with anxiety and prescribed Prozac.
My best friend has a boyfriend ( let’s call him Ben ) and they have been seeing each other for about 7months. He didn’t meet her children yet but we met him a few times. I mentioned our dog to Ben and I said once the dog gets to know him outside the house, we will have them over for dinner. He thought it’s ridiculous that he needs to make an effort to meet the dog. I completely understand that but that’s what all of our other friends did and it worked. Ben said this anxious behaviour should be beaten out of him. My friend’s teenage daughter is suffering with anxiety and although I know dogs and humans are not the same, beating is never the answer! Last Sunday, we were planning to go for a dog walk and my friend asked if she and Ben can come along and then we can go to the pub for lunch. On the walk Ben was making mean remarks about our dog for no reason. In the pub, our dog would usually sit under the table by my DP’s feet but it takes him maybe 10min to settle. Normally we ignore him and he is fine. Ben was constantly bothering him, growling in his face and trying to pull him close. We were all telling him to leave the dog alone but he said he is just playing. As I predicted our dog started barking at him and Ben started barking back at him. My DP is holding on to the dog and I’m telling Ben to stop provoking him. The whole pub was looking at us like we are insane. I said to Ben to leave the dog alone because he can bite him. I only said that to stop him barking at the dog like a lunatic. Our dog never bitten anyone but it’s an animal and so it’s unpredictable when provoked. Ben said ( with the smirk on his face )that if he bites him he will need to be put down. After the whole scene my DP and I left. Later I spoke to my friend and she said the reason Ben was like that because he is scared of the dogs as he was once bitten. Would you be provoking a dog if you are scared of it? I know not everyone likes dogs. But those comments make me very wary of him and makes me think he is not as kind as he portrayed himself. Or I am overthinking it? Again this is not about the dog rather about Ben’s behaviour. There is something bothering me and I can’t put my finger on it. And AIBU to tell my friend to rethink the relationship?

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JadeMember · 12/02/2025 17:57

Constantsoul · 12/02/2025 16:22

Ben probably hates dogs and doesn’t want to it there.

Dog owners would do well to appreciate that not everyone thinks their animals are in any way desirable.

I choose not to spend any time around dogs and wouldn't appreciate one being foisted on me.

I never asked them to come for a dog walk and they suggested to go to the pub afterwards. I completely understand that some people don’t like dogs but I would also ask that you ignore the dog who is minding their own business. Not you obviously but the person in question

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ginasevern · 12/02/2025 18:04

OnlyThickBeans · 12/02/2025 17:49

All those cross with me, in my post at 16:17 I said “Sorry I only skimmed the OP and missed where OP said the dog was reactive.”

@DaisyChain505
@Stickystickystick
@ginasevern

and anyone else who has quoted me.

Fair enough. Hopefully you know that rescue dogs (I've had many) often come from situations of horrific abuse - usually by men. No surprises there. Hopefully too you agree that "Ben" sounds like a dangerous individual.

OnlyThickBeans · 12/02/2025 18:07

@ginasevern i have had a fair share of both rescue and foster dogs.

Trinity69 · 12/02/2025 18:10

Haven’t read the full thread but Ben sounds like a dick. I’d keep him away from your dog.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 12/02/2025 18:11

ginasevern · 12/02/2025 18:04

Fair enough. Hopefully you know that rescue dogs (I've had many) often come from situations of horrific abuse - usually by men. No surprises there. Hopefully too you agree that "Ben" sounds like a dangerous individual.

Funny how reactive rescues are generally reactive mainly towards men and not women. Funny that isn't it. Almost as though the vast majority of abusers were men!!
Took my dog ages to get used to men, he loved my brother instantly though, think they can sense relative blood ties, and whether someone's a good person.

ForestFox44 · 12/02/2025 18:14

You are doing absolutely the right thing getting your dog to meet people first!

Ben however is an absolute wanker, not only has he said he would "beat the dog" he then continued to antagonise your poor dog after being told to stop repeatedly, which not only can massively set your dog back in the training you have put hard work in to and make your dog even more anxious, but also he could have put your dog in a position to bite though no fault of its own, which could result in being put to sleep. Him being "scared of dogs" is bullshit. He would never be allowed around my dog again, and I'd gladly tell my friend why. I have a reactive dog and people doing this is such a set back and so detrimental...I'd be so angry!

Lazydomestic · 12/02/2025 18:15

Ben is a twat not to be entertained
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LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 12/02/2025 18:16

Ben wouldn't set foot in my house or see my face again.

And hell would freeze over before i cooked dinner for him....

He's utterly deranged and the fact your friend is thinking about ending / hasnt ended the relationship is bizarre. He is a giant red flag.

clearskies24 · 12/02/2025 18:17

Ben sounds like a psychopath.

sleepwouldbenice · 12/02/2025 18:21

Constantsoul · 12/02/2025 16:22

Ben probably hates dogs and doesn’t want to it there.

Dog owners would do well to appreciate that not everyone thinks their animals are in any way desirable.

I choose not to spend any time around dogs and wouldn't appreciate one being foisted on me.

Please highlight exactly where the dog was foisted on Ben.?

I can't see it but surely you wouldn't say anything so obviously incorrect?

oakleaffy · 12/02/2025 18:25

ginasevern · 12/02/2025 18:04

Fair enough. Hopefully you know that rescue dogs (I've had many) often come from situations of horrific abuse - usually by men. No surprises there. Hopefully too you agree that "Ben" sounds like a dangerous individual.

We had an RSPCA Lurcher found dumped when Travellers had been evicted from a site-

She loved children ( probably because the kids played with the pups) but she was wary of adult men.

Some men she loved- My friends husband- all dogs follow him around like little lambs-
My son ( now a man) dogs like him, too- quiet peaceful men whom dogs feel safe with.

Buildingthefuture · 12/02/2025 18:26

Ben is an arsehole of epic proportions. Anyone who even mentioned “beating” a dog to me would be told they were a twat and anyone who laid a hand on any one of my dogs had better run. I would go batshit! Ben got off easily.

Butchyrestingface · 12/02/2025 18:29

There is something bothering me and I can’t put my finger on it.

Really? Can you really not put your finger on it??

YouOKHun · 12/02/2025 18:29

@ForestFox44 I agree with you and I'd be seething too if anyone treated a dog of mine like that. I have said upthread that he is scared of the dog and trying to cover it up because it's something it's something I've seen before more than once (I treat people with phobias). I am not sure it is bullshit to say he's scared, but I mention it as a possible reason and NOT as an excuse. Either way, he wouldn't be allowed near any dog of mine either.

BigCheeseFace · 12/02/2025 18:31

Ben does not like dogs. That's ok you know.

"at the end his psychologist diagnosed him with anxiety and prescribed Prozac." 🤣🤣🤣

I don't think you and Ben are going to get on. That's ok too.

Ben's fine

oakleaffy · 12/02/2025 18:32

Has “Beating” EVER solved a problem?

No, of course it hasn’t.

As for tormenting a dog- We were at a dog show once and a bullying man picked up his GSD by the collar ( choke) and let him dangle, feet off the ground.

The whole Showground came to a halt and the man was told in no uncertain terms that what he was doing was completely unacceptable.

He said the dog had “challenged “ him.

What a complete tosser.

There are men ( mainly) who think that helicoptering dogs around by a choke chain gets them to “ listen” but these are Arseholes.

Their dogs are nervy as heck as well.

stayathomer · 12/02/2025 18:33

I may have missed it but what did your friend think of Ben? I know she said he was bitten as a child but did she not think he was an asshole?

NormasArse · 12/02/2025 18:33

Hedgerow2 · 12/02/2025 16:19

Ben said this anxious behaviour should be beaten out of him

And that would be the last time I would ever be in the same room as such a monumental scumbag.

And provoking your dog in the pub?! Why did you let it carry on? You should have protected him and told Ben firmly to stop or you would leave.

If your friend has such atrocious behaviour in men will she have the guts to stand up to him if he starts taunting her daughter in the same sadistic way?

They did tell him stop, and then they did leave.

Oldraver · 12/02/2025 18:34

Ben sounds deranged, who barks and growls at a dog (who he knows is reactive) in a pub. What did your friend make of his behaviour ,,?

JadeMember · 12/02/2025 18:35

Trying to figure out how to respond to individual post but I can’t without copying them.
Anyway, after Ben’s first comment about beating dogs, yes it shocked me, I have explained that why it’s never a way to go. He never said anything about not liking dogs and also talking about the dog was never a priority. I only mentioned it because we were having a dinner at my friends house and I said next time you can come to ours but the dog..,
All the other times we met him, he was lovely, charming, kind and I thought my friend met someone really good. He was super helpful with our car issues and my computer at work. Btw he was always the one offering to help. I now know that’s not the case. My DP has actually read me the definition psychopath and it really fits! So tomorrow I’m having breakfast after school drop off with my friend and try to somehow make her see what we see

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sonjadog · 12/02/2025 18:35

Ben sounds like a dick and I would avoid him in future. I would never have my dog around him again and if asked, would say why.

I have a dog who was rehomed after abuse. He will never be in a situation where someone will abuse him again. I wouldn’t trust someone like Ben near him.

NormasArse · 12/02/2025 18:36

BigCheeseFace · 12/02/2025 18:31

Ben does not like dogs. That's ok you know.

"at the end his psychologist diagnosed him with anxiety and prescribed Prozac." 🤣🤣🤣

I don't think you and Ben are going to get on. That's ok too.

Ben's fine

Ben isn’t fine. Ben spoilt the outing by taunting, and growling at a dog, in a pub.

Ben is a prick.

oakleaffy · 12/02/2025 18:36

BigCheeseFace · 12/02/2025 18:31

Ben does not like dogs. That's ok you know.

"at the end his psychologist diagnosed him with anxiety and prescribed Prozac." 🤣🤣🤣

I don't think you and Ben are going to get on. That's ok too.

Ben's fine

Ben’s a grade “A” wanker, and absolutely not fine.
Ben is deranged - No sane trainer gets up in a dog’s face barking at it.

Ben’s a Scrote.

RandomButtons · 12/02/2025 18:37

You don’t have a dog problem you have a “Ben” problem.

He’s an abusive twot (as demonstrated by saying dog needs beating then provoking dog constantly).

Don’t ever let your dog be in the same room as this man.

womanjustwanttohavefun · 12/02/2025 18:38

He thinks a dog should have behavior beaten out of it.
Ben is a dickhead and a nasty piece of work before getting to how he was with your dog.

Your 'friend' is a fool for ignoring the beating comment as it's a massive red flag.

Anyone who advocates for animal abuse should be avoided at all costs

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