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To believe that eating meat should be illegal?

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BySpoonyBlueScroller · 10/02/2025 09:34

The environmental damage and animal cruelty outweighs the cultural or personal benefits. AIBU to think it’s time to outlaw meat production?

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RocketPanda · 10/02/2025 09:47

Absolutely and also clothes and shoes and electricity and internet.

Abra1t · 10/02/2025 09:47

What food would you grow instead on the parts of land in Britain where you can’t grow crops but livestock can be reared? I’m looking out at fields where it’s too hilly for arable but sheep and cattle graze.

SmallTownLife · 10/02/2025 09:48

I’m vegan and I’d love to see a stop to animals being used the way they are. However, I think it’s better that society realises that it it morally wrong themselves over time rather thsn making it illegal. Vegetarianism and veganism are increasing, we just need to give it more time. Often changes that happen slowly are the ones that stick.

I also think the best we can hope for is less animals used for food and a stop to such intensive farming, but that will be a big improvement.

Lovelysummerdays · 10/02/2025 09:49

BySpoonyBlueScroller · 10/02/2025 09:44

They’d probably be thrilled not to be farm animals anymore to be honest.

Wouldn’t they be dead though? You’d have to have a cull. If people aren’t going to be eating them farmers won’t be keeping them.

pointythings · 10/02/2025 09:49

TemporaryPosition · 10/02/2025 09:46

Is this what Morrissey meant when he compared meat eaters to pedophiles? That it doesn't matter how much suffering is caused by someone's actions, the pleasure trumps all? Its certainly provocative

Morrisey isn't an example for anyone to follow.

PosiePerkinPootleFlump · 10/02/2025 09:49

You’d be a lot more persuasive at persuading people to reduce their meat consumption if you were a bit more nuanced about this

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 10/02/2025 09:49

I honestly feel terrible eating meat, I feel ill whenever I think of the fact that the meat was a living creature

But I can't go without it. I've tried and i just can't, it tastes so good 🥺

DiscoBaIIs · 10/02/2025 09:50

Lovelysummerdays · 10/02/2025 09:49

Wouldn’t they be dead though? You’d have to have a cull. If people aren’t going to be eating them farmers won’t be keeping them.

They just wouldn't be being born. The ones who are already born are destined for the slaughterhouse anyway.

shellyleppard · 10/02/2025 09:50

How would it be enforced though??? Police scrutinising every time you go shopping) eat a meal?

RocketPanda · 10/02/2025 09:50

Also houses are very bad for the environment. We should live in caves or hollowed out trees. Although the trees might be a bit iffy if we are naked. The splinters could get in places.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 10/02/2025 09:51

No thanks

Nor dairy. No desire to consume these vile plant milks

TemporaryPosition · 10/02/2025 09:51

Abra1t · 10/02/2025 09:47

What food would you grow instead on the parts of land in Britain where you can’t grow crops but livestock can be reared? I’m looking out at fields where it’s too hilly for arable but sheep and cattle graze.

I think its possible to draw a distinction between low welfare industrially farmed meat and hill farmed sheep and cattle who only make up a tiny fraction of what we eat today in the UK

DiscoBaIIs · 10/02/2025 09:51

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 10/02/2025 09:46

And what about actual carnivores - animals that genuinely eat nothing but meat? No more lions or tigers and others?

Cats would cease to exist if owners were no longer allowed to feed them meat and they were banned from hunting wild animals themselves. Dogs wouldn't be very happy either.

And?

5128gap · 10/02/2025 09:51

Starlightstarbright4 · 10/02/2025 09:44

Nope I think we should ban vegans preaching how we should eat .

I know, right! If only the thread title had been clear what the OP wanted to talk about, we could at least have have avoided it.

SmallTownLife · 10/02/2025 09:51

shellyleppard · 10/02/2025 09:50

How would it be enforced though??? Police scrutinising every time you go shopping) eat a meal?

I presume OP means it wouldn’t be for sale in shops/restaurants if it was illegal.

DiscoBaIIs · 10/02/2025 09:52

shellyleppard · 10/02/2025 09:50

How would it be enforced though??? Police scrutinising every time you go shopping) eat a meal?

It wouldn't be in the shops.

I guess it would be harder to police people setting traps for bunnies in their garden though. Maybe.

Minnie59 · 10/02/2025 09:52

RocketPanda · 10/02/2025 09:47

Absolutely and also clothes and shoes and electricity and internet.

😂

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 10/02/2025 09:52

It's all very well looking to ban things that are bad for the environment that don't affect tou personally.

I haven't flown anywhere for 27 years, and have no great desire to do so anytime soon, so maybe I should personally campaign for that to be banned?

People who don't want or can't have children could campaign for them to be banned too.

In fact, every one of us is emitting CO2 every single time we breathe, so maybe we should strictly obey the Georgia Guidestones and put our money where our mouths are, if we truly care about the environment?!

OwlInTheOak · 10/02/2025 09:53

We are omnivores so obviously not. Would you recommend killing all carnivores too?

Minnie59 · 10/02/2025 09:53

No way.I can't stop eating meat.Love the taste of it.

TemporaryPosition · 10/02/2025 09:53

shellyleppard · 10/02/2025 09:50

How would it be enforced though??? Police scrutinising every time you go shopping) eat a meal?

I don't think it would be available in the shops or restaurants?

Its like saying that gun laws would be unenforceable because the only way would be to have police on patrol in case anyone approaches the counter in a gun shop. There wouldn't be wide availability

BySpoonyBlueScroller · 10/02/2025 09:53

Abra1t · 10/02/2025 09:47

What food would you grow instead on the parts of land in Britain where you can’t grow crops but livestock can be reared? I’m looking out at fields where it’s too hilly for arable but sheep and cattle graze.

Plenty of alternatives! We could restore native forests, rewild areas for biodiversity, or grow hardy crops suited to rough terrain. Not every inch of land needs to be used for food production - especially when so much is already wasted.

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user2848502016 · 10/02/2025 09:53

So what are you going to do with all the land that now won't have sheep or cattle on it and can't be used for anything else because it's not good enough quality for growing crops?
Where will we get our food from then?

TemporaryPosition · 10/02/2025 09:54

Minnie59 · 10/02/2025 09:52

😂

I'm game

DiscoBaIIs · 10/02/2025 09:54

user2848502016 · 10/02/2025 09:53

So what are you going to do with all the land that now won't have sheep or cattle on it and can't be used for anything else because it's not good enough quality for growing crops?
Where will we get our food from then?

Why do we have to DO anything with it? Why can't it just BE?

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