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To believe that eating meat should be illegal?

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BySpoonyBlueScroller · 10/02/2025 09:34

The environmental damage and animal cruelty outweighs the cultural or personal benefits. AIBU to think it’s time to outlaw meat production?

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brunettemic · 14/02/2025 10:54

BySpoonyBlueScroller · 10/02/2025 09:44

They’d probably be thrilled not to be farm animals anymore to be honest.

More accurately they wouldn’t exist.

Anotherparkingthread · 14/02/2025 14:11

margeyoursoakinginit · 14/02/2025 08:38

I want geese but my DH says they are a pain as they leave slippery slimy poop everywhere. I though I could fence them off and put a paddling pool in.

We had a pond with a fence around it to stop the larger animals going in, even if you left the gate open they would mostly stay in their pond area. They do better with a secure shelter as well and to be locked up at night because of foxes, they're usually hardy and big enough to not get eaten but we lost on of our girls when she was sitting on eggs to a bite to the neck through the fence, so after that built them a fairly sized coop to go in at night, a chicken coop wouldn't be big enough. They do leave slimy poo but it's not too bad if you have lots of space and keep them off the main paths/tracks and you don't over feed them.

They are extremely noisy and can be aggressive, everybody who came to the farm hated the geese more than the guard dog lol. I quite like that about them.

CuddlyDodoToy · 14/02/2025 20:06

Lostcat · 14/02/2025 07:20

Go hunt it yourself then like nature intended.

yes a pp wrote that and then you replied with some nonsense about how we were intended to eat meant but not to hunt it . Which makes no sense

Definition of an omnivore:

  1. an animal or person that eats a variety of food of both plant and animal origin.
I don’t. So - again- makes no sense.

you replied with some nonsense about how we were intended to eat meant but not to hunt it

No I didn't.

I will make one last attempt to help you understand:

Obviously someone has to do the hunting, but it doesn't have to be the person who eats the meat. There has always been and always will be someone else willing to do it.

Have a look around next time you are in a supermarket. You will see meat and meat products for sale for people who want to eat meat without hunting.

It's a bit like people who eat a plant based diet. They don't have to pick their vegetables from fields or their fruit from the orchards. They can if they want to, of course, but like the meat eaters they can go to a supermarket if they prefer.

All human beings (including you) are capable of digesting and gaining nutritional benefit from eating both animal and plant foods.

If you were to start eating meat today, your body would digest it and gain nutritional benefit from it. That is what makes us omnivores. That you choose not to does not mean you are not omnivorous by nature.

Lostcat · 14/02/2025 20:25

CuddlyDodoToy · 14/02/2025 20:06

you replied with some nonsense about how we were intended to eat meant but not to hunt it

No I didn't.

I will make one last attempt to help you understand:

Obviously someone has to do the hunting, but it doesn't have to be the person who eats the meat. There has always been and always will be someone else willing to do it.

Have a look around next time you are in a supermarket. You will see meat and meat products for sale for people who want to eat meat without hunting.

It's a bit like people who eat a plant based diet. They don't have to pick their vegetables from fields or their fruit from the orchards. They can if they want to, of course, but like the meat eaters they can go to a supermarket if they prefer.

All human beings (including you) are capable of digesting and gaining nutritional benefit from eating both animal and plant foods.

If you were to start eating meat today, your body would digest it and gain nutritional benefit from it. That is what makes us omnivores. That you choose not to does not mean you are not omnivorous by nature.

Nature doesn’t “intend” anything, nor do humans have a singular “nature” . Evolution is a process of selection for random gene mutations in the context of a given environment. That’s all it is. No grand design. Only randomness, survival and relativity to a changing environment.

An omnivore is a person or animal that eats a variety of plant and animal products. I am not an omnivore.

Sheknowsaboutme · 15/02/2025 06:02

5128gap · 14/02/2025 09:34

And I suppose you're a picture of health with a kebab in one hand and a big mac in the other? Red faced stinking of the meat sweats, whining about how you NEED meat to fuel you, or you'll somehow expire during your sedentary afternoon? No? So how about we leave the nasty stereotypes out for all of us.

I am a picture of health. Thank you for asking.

and a sheep farmer and a chicken keeper.

fancy a leg of lamb?

Lostcat · 15/02/2025 07:55

Sheknowsaboutme · 15/02/2025 06:02

I am a picture of health. Thank you for asking.

and a sheep farmer and a chicken keeper.

fancy a leg of lamb?

😡

5128gap · 15/02/2025 09:22

Sheknowsaboutme · 15/02/2025 06:02

I am a picture of health. Thank you for asking.

and a sheep farmer and a chicken keeper.

fancy a leg of lamb?

I'm glad to hear it. As am I on a vegan diet, which I thoroughly recommend for its health benefits. Unlike you, my livelihood doesn't depend on other people choosing to eat a certain way. I also have the experience of both ways of eating so am able to compare, presumably also unlike you. So I think its fair to say I'm in a position to be more objective.

Drylogsonly · 17/02/2025 21:09

Believe it if you like, but it would bugger world economies and cause famine if we outlawed it… it would take decades to create a food industry that could sustain the world population without meat.

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