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Angela from Housing

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billysboy · 09/02/2025 12:18

Ainu to think Angela Rayners has been set up to fail on her 1.5m homes target ?
you can barely get planning permission through for a small extension in under 10 weeks let alone 1.5 m new homes
Every month that goes by the shortage compounds
I wonder if Kier has set her up to fail

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Preppercorn · 09/02/2025 12:52

Personally I think "Angela From Housing" is a stroke of genius. Made me laugh out loud.
Maybe we could also have "Keir from Legal" given that when he makes announcements he only ever whiffles on about things from his own interpretative legal point of view and doesn't seem to have fully settled into his job allegedly running the country, he seems to think he's still a lawyer.
This is the gift that keeps on giving OP.

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 12:52

Suzuki76 · 09/02/2025 12:51

Ah, the dog- whistle has gone off! Here they come, folks!

I'm out.

Labour started the dog whistle during their election campaign. They ran a whole campaign on populist slogans

TinklySnail · 09/02/2025 12:52

The issue is the housing won’t be affordable for those who earn around minimum wage.
Affordable housing hasn’t been affordable for many years.

Preppercorn · 09/02/2025 12:54

Oh are "citizen journalists" now credible? I remember during Covid when the anti-lockdown ones were massively denigrated mostly by Lefties.

anniegun · 09/02/2025 12:55

Cannot do worse than the last lot. And we know she is doing this for the country , not for her mates and donors

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 12:55

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:44

So tell us more about her performances that you dislike

Im guessing the poster is alluding to the 8 month period and the mismatch with what has or hasnt been built over that time

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:55

Preppercorn · 09/02/2025 12:54

Oh are "citizen journalists" now credible? I remember during Covid when the anti-lockdown ones were massively denigrated mostly by Lefties.

Telegraph, Mail, Express more your cup of tea?

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 12:56

anniegun · 09/02/2025 12:55

Cannot do worse than the last lot. And we know she is doing this for the country , not for her mates and donors

Wrong. She is owned by the unions, they all are.

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:56

What are we supposed to take from a peculiar link with contrived examples.

Unless you have just landed from outer space and missed the last few months, this is what has happened.

Record high taxes.

A stagnant economy, very likely in recession when the figures are revised.

Unemployment in the rise as businesses laypeople off.

Net contributors and additional rate taxpayers fleeing the country.

Inflation on the rise again.

The pound tanking.

Gilt yields gone haywire.

We have officially dropped out of the list of top 10 manufacturers as businesses close down.

You can be a Labour supporter without embarrassing yourself in trying to defend themselves on this.

skymagentatwo · 09/02/2025 12:56

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soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 12:57

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:48

You hope? If only, hope was enough to actually get things done, rather than, you know…. some competence and actual plans. Get yourself a cup of tea and settle in. You’re in for a long hope.

I dont disagree. I do hope yes
Im a labour voter and have been really disappointed so far, but I still hope

I also dont care if government ministers are denigrated if they havent done a good job, male or female. Thats my beef with a lot of the posts here.

Its dangerous to say you criticise those in power simply because they are female

LittleMonsterWrangler · 09/02/2025 12:58

Whilst housing is bought forward largely by volume housebuilders, we will never get the supply that’s needed- local authorities can grant as many planning permissions as you like, but it’s up to developers to actually build them. Not only are there not enough skilled workers to build this number of houses, but volume housebuilders are not going to suddenly flood the market and lower prices, reducing their profits.
The only way we’ll really address the housing crisis is to invest massive amounts of money in council house building, on a post-war scale, which will never happen.

anyoneforhockey · 09/02/2025 12:58

@JimHalpertsWife Have you looked at Rayners working history? As with Harris' both women were clearly the most qualified for their respective roles.

Yup, done that.

AR took advantage of the opportunity to buy her own council flat and then 'pulled the ladder up' for others.
Then their was the issue of Capital Gains Tax.

She's well-qualified to 'work the system' alright.

taxguru · 09/02/2025 12:58

@mitogoshigg

Now for the more important change, companies should be given tax breaks to relocate from areas where housing is a problem to the parts of the country where there's empty properties and brownfield sites suitable for large scale housing projects eg the north east.

Nail on the head. Spreading out the better employment options to reverse the centralisation into 2/3 large cities over the past 50 years would make a massive difference. It's a kind of "levelling up". There are so many areas that have infrastructure, empty properties, etc., that could easily accommodate lots of extra people. Of course, those are the areas where currently it's only the "problem" people being relocated to, which just makes the areas worse as there are still no jobs, so adding in unemployed or low skilled people just increases social problems.

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 12:59

mitogoshigg · 09/02/2025 12:50

Do what do you suggest???

We need more housing, partly because we need extra but mostly actually because the current stock aren't in the right places, are the "wrong" type and most of all because the ones we do have are under occupied often by 2-3 rooms.

How I suggest dealing with our housing issues are:

In urban and highly populated suburban communities all housing must be a minimum of 3 floors, ideally 4 if the terrain suits it with parking under the house (I've had this, it was great), smaller residences will be apartments or maisonettes with all ground floors built as accessible accommodation automatically.

Now for the more important change, companies should be given tax breaks to relocate from areas where housing is a problem to the parts of the country where there's empty properties and brownfield sites suitable for large scale housing projects eg the north east.

Finally scrapping stamp duty for people over 60 downsizing by at least 2 bedrooms to properties of 2 or fewer bedrooms worth under £500k to incentivise downsizing freeing up large properties. I haven't thought through this obvious, I'm not a politician or housing expert but I see through work so many couples and single older people in houses of 4 or 5 bedrooms they are struggling to maintain yet they won't move because of the cost of moving.

Some good ideas there

Im keen to see vast vast building of social housing properties, then regulations around private market rents and the use of guarantors to be phased out. These are real sticking blocks to people finding private rentals.

Not everyone wants to buy or needs to buy or can buy

lifeonmars100 · 09/02/2025 13:01

Read the heading to your post, clicked to see the whole thing thinking it was going to be about the OP's local council or a social housing provider but no, it is a snide dig at a woman who is in a very powerful role in the current government. Why not just head your post "Do you think Angela Rayner is being set up to fail by the PM" or something similar rather than try to imitate the rather tedious "Rachel from accounts". Oddly we don't seem to have a "Wes from the Healthcentre" or "David from the Travel Agency" .

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 13:01

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 12:56

Wrong. She is owned by the unions, they all are.

Whats wrong with unions?

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 13:03

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 13:01

Whats wrong with unions?

They dictate government policy. Which is zero difference to outside donors dictating government policy. It means policy is made purely to appease the outside interests instead of what's best for the country. It is yet another instance of Party over Country.

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 13:03

lifeonmars100 · 09/02/2025 13:01

Read the heading to your post, clicked to see the whole thing thinking it was going to be about the OP's local council or a social housing provider but no, it is a snide dig at a woman who is in a very powerful role in the current government. Why not just head your post "Do you think Angela Rayner is being set up to fail by the PM" or something similar rather than try to imitate the rather tedious "Rachel from accounts". Oddly we don't seem to have a "Wes from the Healthcentre" or "David from the Travel Agency" .

David Lamey is in league all of his own.

Wes ‘all fur coat and no Knickers’ Streeting is given too easy a ride. He’s achieved absolutely nothing, yet is seen as some kind of future talent.

daliesque · 09/02/2025 13:03

Who needs men to be misogynistic twats when women are doing it so well.

edwinbear · 09/02/2025 13:03

@mitogoshigg I like the idea of incentivising people to down size via stamp duty. Of course nobody should be forced out of their home, just because their DC have moved out and they no longer need such a big house. But many older people would actually like to down size, but cannot afford the stamp duty.

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 13:05

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 13:03

They dictate government policy. Which is zero difference to outside donors dictating government policy. It means policy is made purely to appease the outside interests instead of what's best for the country. It is yet another instance of Party over Country.

They dont dictate it but they are instrumental in making sure workers rights and conditions are forefront of policy, pay etc

Im not sure that is zero difference to people who essentially are only interested in increasing profit to no advantage to the general population

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 09/02/2025 13:05

I thought this was going to be a thread about a social housing officer visiting the Op, and what Angela said/did.

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 13:06

Does anyone know how Rayner is planing to build an additional 4 million homes to add to her 1.5million target. That’s what we’ll need to meet the immigration induced population rise of the next 5 years.

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 13:06

lifeonmars100 · 09/02/2025 13:01

Read the heading to your post, clicked to see the whole thing thinking it was going to be about the OP's local council or a social housing provider but no, it is a snide dig at a woman who is in a very powerful role in the current government. Why not just head your post "Do you think Angela Rayner is being set up to fail by the PM" or something similar rather than try to imitate the rather tedious "Rachel from accounts". Oddly we don't seem to have a "Wes from the Healthcentre" or "David from the Travel Agency" .

Given that in the last government the vast majority of senior ministers were men and they were denigrated and name called over arnd over (quite rightly, particularly around Brexit negotiations, remember that?) Im not sure your post stands up to scrutiny.

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