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Angela from Housing

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billysboy · 09/02/2025 12:18

Ainu to think Angela Rayners has been set up to fail on her 1.5m homes target ?
you can barely get planning permission through for a small extension in under 10 weeks let alone 1.5 m new homes
Every month that goes by the shortage compounds
I wonder if Kier has set her up to fail

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bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:39

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:38

Yeah in 8 months.

You are a straw house kind of guy?

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:40

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:39

Based on her performance?

Please elaborate

It’s not a difficult question to grasp. What don’t you understand?

Parsley1234 · 09/02/2025 12:41

She’s on her way out she’s deliberately been kept out of the public eye as she’s a train wreck. Rayner was put in the front bench to appease the unions she’s uneducated and chippy. Rachel from accounts Bridget from the block Two Tier Keir millipede they’re all dreadful human beings hell bent on ruining this country

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 12:43

Parsley1234 · 09/02/2025 12:41

She’s on her way out she’s deliberately been kept out of the public eye as she’s a train wreck. Rayner was put in the front bench to appease the unions she’s uneducated and chippy. Rachel from accounts Bridget from the block Two Tier Keir millipede they’re all dreadful human beings hell bent on ruining this country

Add in Phillipson to that. Taking a wrecking ball to education and simultaneously angering independent sector, state sector, teachers and educators. Quite an achievement but as long as the unions are happy! Except they aren't either 😆

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:44

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:40

It’s not a difficult question to grasp. What don’t you understand?

So tell us more about her performances that you dislike

KimberleyClark · 09/02/2025 12:44

ilovesooty · 09/02/2025 12:37

Her name is Rayner. And she apologised for the remark. The title of the OP is a misogynistic insult. Not that the OP can manage to spell Starmer's name either.

It’s a deliberate misspelling designed to belittle.

LadyKenya · 09/02/2025 12:44

The faux outrage at OP’s title is simply a way to deflect attention from the fact that tis government is atrocious, even worse the last one. And Rayner is of low calibre and she’s being found out.

Really, You honestly can say that this Government is worse, after just a few months? How strange.

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:45

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 12:43

Add in Phillipson to that. Taking a wrecking ball to education and simultaneously angering independent sector, state sector, teachers and educators. Quite an achievement but as long as the unions are happy! Except they aren't either 😆

That’s a woman so unemployable that only her own mum would employ her, that too in a charity.

That’s the person in charge of children’s education in this country.

This country is doomed.

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 12:45

Suzuki76 · 09/02/2025 12:27

I've tried to point out the misogyny of "Rachel from Accounts" and the foul man who coined the phrase before and was shouted down. Apparently it's no different to "30p Lee".

YANBU to start applying this shit to any female member of the government.

I dont actually agree with the OPs position, I hope and like to think we can get more housing built and this will be successful

However horrible or denigrating nick names for government ministers is nothing new, its not misogyny, nor should it be reduced. We have a long long political history of satire and sarcasm about those in power, going right back to when the printing press made this more available to the public

Its exactly the same as 30p Lee, or 'call me Dave', or any number of ones that Ive since long forgotten. Tarzan anyone? Two Jags? Welsh Windbag?

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 12:45

KimberleyClark · 09/02/2025 12:44

It’s a deliberate misspelling designed to belittle.

No it wasn't, it was auto correct that I didn't proofread prior to posting. Don't make assumptions.

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:46

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:44

So tell us more about her performances that you dislike

What performance?

ilovesooty · 09/02/2025 12:47

Parsley1234 · 09/02/2025 12:41

She’s on her way out she’s deliberately been kept out of the public eye as she’s a train wreck. Rayner was put in the front bench to appease the unions she’s uneducated and chippy. Rachel from accounts Bridget from the block Two Tier Keir millipede they’re all dreadful human beings hell bent on ruining this country

Could you be more deliberately offensive in one post?

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:47

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:46

What performance?

The ones you are basing your judgement on

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 12:48

LadyKenya · 09/02/2025 12:44

The faux outrage at OP’s title is simply a way to deflect attention from the fact that tis government is atrocious, even worse the last one. And Rayner is of low calibre and she’s being found out.

Really, You honestly can say that this Government is worse, after just a few months? How strange.

I mean the general consensus is that Labour have royally fucked up so far. That's why they have had to re-brand within the first 3 months, are tanking in the polls and pissing off pretty much everyone at either end of the spectrum.

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:48

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 12:45

I dont actually agree with the OPs position, I hope and like to think we can get more housing built and this will be successful

However horrible or denigrating nick names for government ministers is nothing new, its not misogyny, nor should it be reduced. We have a long long political history of satire and sarcasm about those in power, going right back to when the printing press made this more available to the public

Its exactly the same as 30p Lee, or 'call me Dave', or any number of ones that Ive since long forgotten. Tarzan anyone? Two Jags? Welsh Windbag?

You hope? If only, hope was enough to actually get things done, rather than, you know…. some competence and actual plans. Get yourself a cup of tea and settle in. You’re in for a long hope.

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:49

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:47

The ones you are basing your judgement on

Yeah, I ask again, what performance?

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:49

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 12:48

I mean the general consensus is that Labour have royally fucked up so far. That's why they have had to re-brand within the first 3 months, are tanking in the polls and pissing off pretty much everyone at either end of the spectrum.

Fucked up with what?

mitogoshigg · 09/02/2025 12:50

Do what do you suggest???

We need more housing, partly because we need extra but mostly actually because the current stock aren't in the right places, are the "wrong" type and most of all because the ones we do have are under occupied often by 2-3 rooms.

How I suggest dealing with our housing issues are:

In urban and highly populated suburban communities all housing must be a minimum of 3 floors, ideally 4 if the terrain suits it with parking under the house (I've had this, it was great), smaller residences will be apartments or maisonettes with all ground floors built as accessible accommodation automatically.

Now for the more important change, companies should be given tax breaks to relocate from areas where housing is a problem to the parts of the country where there's empty properties and brownfield sites suitable for large scale housing projects eg the north east.

Finally scrapping stamp duty for people over 60 downsizing by at least 2 bedrooms to properties of 2 or fewer bedrooms worth under £500k to incentivise downsizing freeing up large properties. I haven't thought through this obvious, I'm not a politician or housing expert but I see through work so many couples and single older people in houses of 4 or 5 bedrooms they are struggling to maintain yet they won't move because of the cost of moving.

TinklySnail · 09/02/2025 12:50

All these posters more concerned about OP calling her Angela from housing yet don’t think twice about calling Trump et al names.

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 12:51

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:49

Fucked up with what?

Oh dear you are one of them ie ignore the economy, education, opinion polls etc.
The question is what have they actually achieved? That's a serious question.

Parsley1234 · 09/02/2025 12:51

@twistyizzy thats Bridget from the block
@ilovesooty yes yes I think I could be I don’t even think that was offensive was it ? More truthful
@Jossjt her own mother employing her I know look at these front bench clowns look at their work history not one piece of business acumen or business sense within any of them. Actually when I think back to TTK jailing all those rioters last summer I think there was truth in the rumpus he defended AR father from Rwanda they are an absolute joke but sadly no one’s laughing

Suzuki76 · 09/02/2025 12:51

TinklySnail · 09/02/2025 12:50

All these posters more concerned about OP calling her Angela from housing yet don’t think twice about calling Trump et al names.

Ah, the dog- whistle has gone off! Here they come, folks!

I'm out.

Gibstub · 09/02/2025 12:52

Not keen on the title. Nasty comment

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 12:52

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 12:51

Oh dear you are one of them ie ignore the economy, education, opinion polls etc.
The question is what have they actually achieved? That's a serious question.

https://eastangliabylines.co.uk/politics/the-first-6-months-what-has-labour-actually-done/

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