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Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world

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100A · 05/02/2025 16:51

It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

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Turkeyneck101 · 26/02/2025 17:47

Notaflippinclue · 26/02/2025 16:53

Why do you think Starmer is increasing military spending - oh Trump
Who do you think is making Hamas toe the line - oh Trump
Who has got the framework for a deal with Ukraine up and running - oh Trump
Who closed the border - oh Trump
Even BP are binning renewables and returning to oil & gas drill baby drill - Trump
The DEI hiring has been a complete failure in the military and as long as the Americans are happy good because most of the Western world are hanging on his every word.

You see and believe what you see and believe...I see a nazi-esque rascist thin skinned lieing rapist. He is aligning himself with Putin...it wasn't so long ago Americans were throwing people in jail at the mere hint of being a communist.
I will give you this, he has been successful, very successful at making Americans very angry at the little guy, taking away whatever rights and pittance of pay that they get, while allowing the billionaires and oligarchs to have their tax cuts and pillage the government under the guise of 'saving money' . The laughable thing is that trump continues to grift, flogging his trainers, bibles coins, meme coins, etc at the same time....filling his pockets while playing golf, snorting whatever it is he shoves up his nose , along with his ketamine loving friend musk. And maga think he is doing it all for them.😂 They've invited in the biggest grifter, thief, bankrupt and conman, opened their savings book and told him and his billionaire mates to help themselves. All he has to do is hug a flag and dance to ymca and they're complete suckers for it.

As for european leaders they all see trump for the loon that he is. He is a laughing stock but a dangerous one.

America has aligned itself with Russia and North Korea fgs. No-one trusts him. They see the writing on the wall and see their strength in sticking together.

America came knocking on Europe's door after 9/11 good luck with getting putin and Kim jung un to back America up should you ever need it.

Enjoy your increased medication prices, lack of medicare and Medicaid, increased insurance premiums and high fuel and food costs...it will be an absolute blast I'm sure.

Ps I see the economy is tanking and inflation is on the up...but don't worry the billionaires will be a-ok. 😁

Abhannmor · 26/02/2025 17:55

He really seems to have it in for Veterans. Calling the dead ' losers' and now cutting their funding. A psychiatrist would have a field day with this man. Is it that he is jealous of them or that he simply can't conceive of people taking those risks for so little financial reward?

wholettheturnipsburn · 26/02/2025 18:02

Notaflippinclue · 26/02/2025 15:09

This feed seems to be run by the American Democratic Party - I wondered where they were these days!

Dont be a silly billy

Mumsnet isn't even american.

You don't have to be American to laugh at the tangerine toddler. He's a laughing stock, as are those maga muppets

🤣🤣🤣

Parker231 · 26/02/2025 18:05

Notaflippinclue · 26/02/2025 15:09

This feed seems to be run by the American Democratic Party - I wondered where they were these days!

Hardly - we live in Canada so impacted by Trump’s rants.

nearlylovemyusername · 26/02/2025 21:26

wholettheturnipsburn · 26/02/2025 18:02

Dont be a silly billy

Mumsnet isn't even american.

You don't have to be American to laugh at the tangerine toddler. He's a laughing stock, as are those maga muppets

🤣🤣🤣

I don't find this funny at all.

Demented orange buffoon is destroying the world. But I can't shake off the feeling that there are other forces behind him who brought him into power, not only Musk, but people like Peter Thiel etc, and it took them whole two weeks to decimate the foundations of democracy in the US, make rule of law a memory and make a copy of Russia there. It's terrifying

TooBigForMyBoots · 26/02/2025 21:32

Notaflippinclue · 26/02/2025 15:09

This feed seems to be run by the American Democratic Party - I wondered where they were these days!

Typical MAGA cult mindset.😆

MushMonster · 26/02/2025 21:37

Putin's Russia interfered on US elections in 2016, not so long ago. US public knows about this thanks to Reality Winner, who had to spend time in prison for releasing documents proving this to the press.
Trump so clearly backing Putin cannot feel any good to them, at all. Money or no money. Your national security and democracy are not for sale.

nearlylovemyusername · 26/02/2025 22:03

Yet another one:
Jeff Bezos focuses Washington Post opinion pages on ‘personal liberties’ and ‘free markets’

It's behind pay wall so in brief:

"Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos is overhauling the newspaper’s opinion section to focus more narrowly on two topics — personal liberties and free markets.
...
In the email, Bezos said the newspaper would be writing “every day in support and defence of two pillars: personal liberties and free markets. We’ll cover other topics too of course, but viewpoints opposing those pillars will be left to be published by others.”"

Personal liberties and free markets to be translated to complete deregulation which DOGE is implementing now.

This is just one of the examples of manipulation of opinions, we have to be super vigilant here in the UK to ensure we don't get into the same horror trap.

DdraigGoch · 27/02/2025 05:35

Notaflippinclue · 26/02/2025 15:09

This feed seems to be run by the American Democratic Party - I wondered where they were these days!

Most Mumsnetters are British. The US Democrats are considered "centre right" from our perspective.

DdraigGoch · 27/02/2025 05:53

Notaflippinclue · 26/02/2025 16:53

Why do you think Starmer is increasing military spending - oh Trump
Who do you think is making Hamas toe the line - oh Trump
Who has got the framework for a deal with Ukraine up and running - oh Trump
Who closed the border - oh Trump
Even BP are binning renewables and returning to oil & gas drill baby drill - Trump
The DEI hiring has been a complete failure in the military and as long as the Americans are happy good because most of the Western world are hanging on his every word.

Well you got one thing right: you really don't have a flipping clue.

hollyblueivy · 28/02/2025 23:48

Did Trump orchestrate the argument with Zelensky and pre plan kicking him out? I can't get my head around this. They have got so far in the agreement. Each side understands the others stance and then it all just blows up. Why does trump not appear to like Zelensky?

Fifiworks · 28/02/2025 23:53

Maybe because Trump pushed him to investigate hunter biden and he wouldn’t.

pananamana · 01/03/2025 00:26

hollyblueivy · 28/02/2025 23:48

Did Trump orchestrate the argument with Zelensky and pre plan kicking him out? I can't get my head around this. They have got so far in the agreement. Each side understands the others stance and then it all just blows up. Why does trump not appear to like Zelensky?

because Zelensky refused to investigate biden's son and that led to his impeachment.

CaveMum · 01/03/2025 08:31

hollyblueivy · 28/02/2025 23:48

Did Trump orchestrate the argument with Zelensky and pre plan kicking him out? I can't get my head around this. They have got so far in the agreement. Each side understands the others stance and then it all just blows up. Why does trump not appear to like Zelensky?

Every thing with Trump is personal. He doesn’t like Zelenskyy (for the aforementioned reasons) so he will take any opportunity to belittle him. He is that petty.

He also only cares about 2 things - money and headlines. He’s a reality tv star, it’s all about the ratings.

Panterusblackish · 01/03/2025 08:49

Turkeyneck101 · 26/02/2025 17:47

You see and believe what you see and believe...I see a nazi-esque rascist thin skinned lieing rapist. He is aligning himself with Putin...it wasn't so long ago Americans were throwing people in jail at the mere hint of being a communist.
I will give you this, he has been successful, very successful at making Americans very angry at the little guy, taking away whatever rights and pittance of pay that they get, while allowing the billionaires and oligarchs to have their tax cuts and pillage the government under the guise of 'saving money' . The laughable thing is that trump continues to grift, flogging his trainers, bibles coins, meme coins, etc at the same time....filling his pockets while playing golf, snorting whatever it is he shoves up his nose , along with his ketamine loving friend musk. And maga think he is doing it all for them.😂 They've invited in the biggest grifter, thief, bankrupt and conman, opened their savings book and told him and his billionaire mates to help themselves. All he has to do is hug a flag and dance to ymca and they're complete suckers for it.

As for european leaders they all see trump for the loon that he is. He is a laughing stock but a dangerous one.

America has aligned itself with Russia and North Korea fgs. No-one trusts him. They see the writing on the wall and see their strength in sticking together.

America came knocking on Europe's door after 9/11 good luck with getting putin and Kim jung un to back America up should you ever need it.

Enjoy your increased medication prices, lack of medicare and Medicaid, increased insurance premiums and high fuel and food costs...it will be an absolute blast I'm sure.

Ps I see the economy is tanking and inflation is on the up...but don't worry the billionaires will be a-ok. 😁

You could not be more correct.

He's already testing the waters for a third term, he's mentioned it several times now.

America has become an autocracy.

You'll always get Trump diehards trying to excuse him, but he is a fascist dictator and a rapist to boot.

This week I've had a Trump nutter telling me how he cares about the poor. You could not make it up. It's not a case of belief the evidence shows that his first term tax policy massively favoured the rich. The top 1 percent. She seemed to have forgotten about that though.

You can't point out facts to Trump supporters, they've drunk the Kool Aid.

MushMonster · 01/03/2025 10:08

Well, if we are going to gamble on a war, which costs us our lives, based on the personal issues of men, then we are as good as dead.

MushMonster · 01/03/2025 11:51

Has anyone watched the interview with Rubio trying to calm it down and make so.e sense of it?
I think Trump should have chosen Rubio to sit by his side and not JD Vance. At least, the is is what he wanted.
Everytime Trump is against Zelensky, it looks like he is with Putin, best buddies. I am not enjoying this a bit. And if Trump really wants to be best buddies with Putin, then he will lose any acceptance and back up in Europe.

Turkeyneck101 · 01/03/2025 13:37

MushMonster · 01/03/2025 11:51

Has anyone watched the interview with Rubio trying to calm it down and make so.e sense of it?
I think Trump should have chosen Rubio to sit by his side and not JD Vance. At least, the is is what he wanted.
Everytime Trump is against Zelensky, it looks like he is with Putin, best buddies. I am not enjoying this a bit. And if Trump really wants to be best buddies with Putin, then he will lose any acceptance and back up in Europe.

Rubio was in the room post interviews blames ZELENSKY. He has flip flopped like them all about trump.

user44456b · 01/03/2025 14:00

Turkeyneck101 · 01/03/2025 13:37

Rubio was in the room post interviews blames ZELENSKY. He has flip flopped like them all about trump.

Rubio and Vance are actually worse than Trump because they're smart and know better. Trump is just a rancid, deluded, demented narcissist.

CaveMum · 01/03/2025 14:14

Rubio has sold his soul. He’s one of the biggest Russia Hawks in the GOP, he knows full well what is happening.

Whether he originally took the role thinking he could temper Trump’s wilder tendencies I don’t know, but he has well and truly sold out now.

Vance has just proved himself to be the red neck he always tried to deny he was. He’s the epitome of “will do anything for a sniff of power”.

Trump has them all prancing around like performing dogs, desperate for scraps from his table.

Turkeyneck101 · 01/03/2025 14:58

CaveMum · 01/03/2025 14:14

Rubio has sold his soul. He’s one of the biggest Russia Hawks in the GOP, he knows full well what is happening.

Whether he originally took the role thinking he could temper Trump’s wilder tendencies I don’t know, but he has well and truly sold out now.

Vance has just proved himself to be the red neck he always tried to deny he was. He’s the epitome of “will do anything for a sniff of power”.

Trump has them all prancing around like performing dogs, desperate for scraps from his table.

Vance leapt at the opportunity to seem like the big man so he can position himself with the magas to take over if trump croaks it. Up to now he has been a back room player scampering among musks skirt tails. A loathsome excuse of a human.

Grammarnut · 01/03/2025 15:40

100A · 05/02/2025 17:34

The amount of media time given to his incoherent ramblings is insane. How did America come to this?

The US came to this because the Democrats presented themselves as supporters of the transagenda - this carried a lot of women who were fed up with finding people with penises in their same-sex changing rooms. That's clearly not enought, but didn't help because - surprise, surprise - women think women's rights to sex segregated spaces and to the rights they have won are important. The economy did not help, either, nor aggressive climate change actions without thought for people's livelihoods. And Biden showed himself to be incompetent and should have been told to gracefully announce in 2023 that he would not be standing for a second term. Kamala Harris was terrible candidate and anyway, the Democrats won't elect the first woman president, as in the UK the conservative wing will do that.

Turkeyneck101 · 01/03/2025 15:45

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This is an excellent take and one which I hope some european techno minded person picks up on. Hit oligarchy billionaires where it really hurts...in the pocket.

Meantime join Bluesky, leave twitter with the twats.

TooBigForMyBoots · 01/03/2025 15:56

100A · 05/02/2025 17:34

The amount of media time given to his incoherent ramblings is insane. How did America come to this?

Firstly the Republican Party chose Trump to stand for President. They could have picked a sane person but hey ho. Secondly Putin poured funds into promoting Trump. Thirdly Trump told shit loads of lies and stoked up culture wars designed to make people believe that only he could save them from the horrors.

And fourthly, Americans voted for him. May God help them.

MushMonster · 01/03/2025 16:04

CaveMum · 01/03/2025 14:14

Rubio has sold his soul. He’s one of the biggest Russia Hawks in the GOP, he knows full well what is happening.

Whether he originally took the role thinking he could temper Trump’s wilder tendencies I don’t know, but he has well and truly sold out now.

Vance has just proved himself to be the red neck he always tried to deny he was. He’s the epitome of “will do anything for a sniff of power”.

Trump has them all prancing around like performing dogs, desperate for scraps from his table.

He (Rubio) did say one bad thing about Putin: "they do not care about lives, they brought the North Korean troops to be slaughtered"
He also said that they are trying to avoid personal remarks to bring the players to the table to get a chance for that longed for peace deal. And that the Ukranians had been briefed all along.
But Trump had been rather nasty to Zelensky publically. So, it seems that everyone has to be nice nice to Putin. I do not want to be cute, but let's all strike Putin's ego here. The man has gone through a lot with me blah blah blah... Hunter Biden....blah blah blah
The more I think about it, the less sense it makes. It helps exactly zero towards any negotiations. It shows a chaotic other side to Putin, who is meant to be the one feeling the weight of his actions.
They should never ever argue in this fashion in public. This is for closed doors, if.... Where is that diplomacy? Vance needs to check himself, really.