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Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world

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100A · 05/02/2025 16:51

It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

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user44456b · 22/02/2025 09:19

Porcuporpoise · 22/02/2025 09:16

Vance isn't an idiot though. Or rather, he is, but he's also smart and nasty.

Yes, unfortunately. I fear we underestimate Vance (and his puppeteers) at our peril. There's something deeply wrong with him, but he's smart.

@DdraigGoch

It may be harder to buy an election in Europe, but they've been pretty successful at buying division. Brexit was certainly essentially bought.

Mrsbloggz · 22/02/2025 12:21

The hope that I hold on to is that ultimately they will overplay their hands and/or back themselves into a corner that they can't get out of.
Trump will only be happy if he feels he is the best/cleverest/richest etc. Anyone with any ambition or ability will be a threat to him and he will have to get rid of them so he will only ever end up surrounded by incompetents 🤷🏻‍♀️

Serpentstooth · 22/02/2025 13:03

And then? He's not far away from that right now. Look at the paltry collection of no-marks he's surrounded himself with.

Mrsbloggz · 22/02/2025 13:38

Serpentstooth · 22/02/2025 13:03

And then? He's not far away from that right now. Look at the paltry collection of no-marks he's surrounded himself with.

I don't know it feels a bit 'all bets are off' 😬😬
A significant proportion of Americans will identify with the paltry no-marks, since they lack the education and critical thinking skills to see through them. But if the USA loses its standing in the world (and it surely will with this bunch of twits running it) then the wealthy educated people in the USA won't want to go down with the sinking ship.
But how could the USA be a sinking ship . . . what with its military might and all that.
I don't have the brains to figure it all out 🤷🏻‍♀️😱

Loveumagenta · 22/02/2025 14:53

user44456b · 22/02/2025 09:19

Yes, unfortunately. I fear we underestimate Vance (and his puppeteers) at our peril. There's something deeply wrong with him, but he's smart.

@DdraigGoch

It may be harder to buy an election in Europe, but they've been pretty successful at buying division. Brexit was certainly essentially bought.

Vance has the charisma of a cabbage patch doll. Without Trump he’d struggle.

CaveMum · 22/02/2025 16:13

I’ve seen a theory that Vance is being sidelined - he’s not been “allowed” to talk about the big stuff in public. As they said on Pod Save America, it’s like he’s not allowed in the big boy meetings.

user44456b · 22/02/2025 16:37

Loveumagenta · 22/02/2025 14:53

Vance has the charisma of a cabbage patch doll. Without Trump he’d struggle.

I'd like to think that, as personally, I'd enjoy nothing more than punching him in his smug lying face. But I suspect that once out from under Trump's thumb, we're going to be unpleasantly surprised by his political viability. Clearly some deep, long-term thought has been put into his future by some very wealthy and powerful people (Yarvin, Thiel et al).

That said, I'll be very, very happy to be proved wrong here.

hollyblueivy · 22/02/2025 16:48

Top military sackings to include a black man and a woman. How can he get away with this blatant sexism and racism?

Serpentstooth · 22/02/2025 17:30

Maybe. But in USA money is all powerful. Vance is there for his useful appeal to the thoughtless Trump lovers, given his 'hillbilly heritage' but hasn't got enough dosh to speak for himself. Trump is busily getting his revenge for not being accepted into the higher echelons of US Society, even more contemptuous of nouveaux than our own aristocracy. He won't be finished for a while yet. It's supremely depressing.

user44456b · 22/02/2025 18:01

Serpentstooth · 22/02/2025 17:30

Maybe. But in USA money is all powerful. Vance is there for his useful appeal to the thoughtless Trump lovers, given his 'hillbilly heritage' but hasn't got enough dosh to speak for himself. Trump is busily getting his revenge for not being accepted into the higher echelons of US Society, even more contemptuous of nouveaux than our own aristocracy. He won't be finished for a while yet. It's supremely depressing.

I dunno. Being the voice of doom, I'd say Silicon Valley bought him his senate seat for a reason.

BIossomtoes · 22/02/2025 19:22

hollyblueivy · 22/02/2025 16:48

Top military sackings to include a black man and a woman. How can he get away with this blatant sexism and racism?

It’s equal opportunity sacking.

HappyNewFeckingYear · 22/02/2025 19:27

I don't really care what colour they are, Trump has sacked the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff CQ Brown with immediate effect. There is no body in charge of the US military forces this weekend.

Parker231 · 22/02/2025 20:10

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 21/02/2025 08:30

That’s perfection. 💕

We will never be Americans.

Pictures doing the rounds are getting better 🤣

Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world
BIossomtoes · 22/02/2025 20:20

HappyNewFeckingYear · 22/02/2025 19:27

I don't really care what colour they are, Trump has sacked the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff CQ Brown with immediate effect. There is no body in charge of the US military forces this weekend.

Christ, I hope nobody tells Putin. Intelligent Americans must be horrified and frightened in equal measures.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 22/02/2025 20:35

Anybody watching his speech to the Conservative conference? He sounds deranged.

Loveumagenta · 22/02/2025 21:18

hollyblueivy · 22/02/2025 16:48

Top military sackings to include a black man and a woman. How can he get away with this blatant sexism and racism?

Because everyone knows ‘competent, white men’ are better than everyone else. Obvs.

Loveumagenta · 22/02/2025 21:20

HappyNewFeckingYear · 22/02/2025 19:27

I don't really care what colour they are, Trump has sacked the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff CQ Brown with immediate effect. There is no body in charge of the US military forces this weekend.

Perhaps Musk could be in charge of the military?
Anyone else remember the Spitting Image song ‘I’ve never met a nice South African’?

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/02/2025 21:29

Mrsbloggz · 22/02/2025 12:21

The hope that I hold on to is that ultimately they will overplay their hands and/or back themselves into a corner that they can't get out of.
Trump will only be happy if he feels he is the best/cleverest/richest etc. Anyone with any ambition or ability will be a threat to him and he will have to get rid of them so he will only ever end up surrounded by incompetents 🤷🏻‍♀️

I confident that nature will take its course. When you put that many rats in a sack they eventually turn on eachother.

username299 · 22/02/2025 21:33

Loveumagenta · 22/02/2025 21:20

Perhaps Musk could be in charge of the military?
Anyone else remember the Spitting Image song ‘I’ve never met a nice South African’?

He could lead from the front addled with ketamine and weilding a chainsaw.

Loveumagenta · 22/02/2025 21:37

username299 · 22/02/2025 21:33

He could lead from the front addled with ketamine and weilding a chainsaw.

Oh, he’d be hiding in the biggest, deepest bunker as faaaaarrrrrr away from any danger, making TilToks of himself with a chainsaw, shirtless to inspire the fighting white, men - he’ll have fired everyone else by then.

username299 · 22/02/2025 21:49

Loveumagenta · 22/02/2025 21:37

Oh, he’d be hiding in the biggest, deepest bunker as faaaaarrrrrr away from any danger, making TilToks of himself with a chainsaw, shirtless to inspire the fighting white, men - he’ll have fired everyone else by then.

All greased up and covered in coke like Tony Montana screaming "Fight! Fight! Fight!" and doing star jumps and Nazi salutes.

DdraigGoch · 22/02/2025 23:06

Porcuporpoise · 22/02/2025 09:16

Vance isn't an idiot though. Or rather, he is, but he's also smart and nasty.

To paraphrase Jim Hacker, he's both "thick as two short planks" and "too clever by half"

DdraigGoch · 22/02/2025 23:33

hollyblueivy · 22/02/2025 16:48

Top military sackings to include a black man and a woman. How can he get away with this blatant sexism and racism?

Because a substantial part of the population still think that society peaked back in the 1950s when black people went to the back of the bus and women did as their husbands told them.

BurntBroccoli · 24/02/2025 19:54

Just wow!

UNGA resolution on an early & just peace in Ukraine. Confirming the importance to respect all countries' territorial integrity & sovereignty, in line with the UN Charter.

Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world
user1471516498 · 24/02/2025 20:03

BurntBroccoli · 24/02/2025 19:54

Just wow!

UNGA resolution on an early & just peace in Ukraine. Confirming the importance to respect all countries' territorial integrity & sovereignty, in line with the UN Charter.

The original resolution was from the US, but Europe forced some amendments, which basically condemned Russia's invasion and asked for the addition of the text you quoted, so US had to abstain.