What do you think of Blake Lively?

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From what I’ve heard with the current drama surrounding her I’m shocked. Did anyone’s opinions of her change?

ps this isn’t a bashing thread

Other than not being a good actress, I do think she's hot,

She did not sign her contract and had considerable leverage over the production of the film as a result. She threatened not to do the marketing if she did not get her way with the editing, knowing full well that she would not be in breach of contract. She played everyone like a fiddle and thought she would get away with it. Her behaviour was callous, duplicitous and morally bereft.

Actors don’t “drive” publicity for movies. That’s the job of the marketing teams/ media planners. They prepare the budget, identify the audience, identify cultural nuances in different countries, plan the schedule etc, create the vision for the ad campaigns, posters, trailers etc. They tell the actors when to show up at what talk show and which interview and which press junket to promote the movie. She may have requested to promote her own brands at the same time, tho it’s possible she was asked if she wanted to to draw in her fan base.

I do not have an opinion but never got the joke about Kate Middleton. BL and her husband always seem to apologise very quickly so a product of this bullshit times. Therefore, they must be having a dreadful time.

What do I think of Blake Lively?
Goodness.
Not too much until It Ends With Us started promotion.
I just knew her as someone married to a more famous actor. I felt kinda vanilla about her acting in the one film I saw.
Then, I saw the video interview released by Swedish journalist Kjersty Flaa, where she congratulated BL’s “Little (baby) bump”.

Which was less of a comment on BL’s female body (as suggested on a previous post) and more of a celebration on Blake’s growing a little human being.
BL then congratulated Flaa on “her little bump”. Note: Flaa has issues with fertility and it is pretty clear she was not pregnant herself. Nor can she ever be.
Bad look complaining when you have announced you are pregnant and people congratulate you.
Then BL insinuated Kjersty was sexist when she asked her question about clothes.
The film had a first class wardrobe by all accounts. Woody Allen really wanted an authentic look.
And with her fellow co star BL, hijacked the remainder of the interview with simply awful behaviour. Check it out yourself. It’s pretty short but brutal. BL Woman bashing basically.

people start wondering…is there more of this behaviour….hmmmm?
Thats how you start to get a “bad name” huh?

The promotion of the current film was a little tone deaf which a lot of people noted, promoting hair care business and alcohol business. alcohol and DV ?!!!
BL was Segregated from or by his costars in the promo and in the premier. While appearing to be addressing the serious message of the film and praising BL.

It all looked really odd.

I thought she came across as lightweight, self centred and literally self promoting and , well preening. Not a crime mind you.
He. More serious and responsible. And focused on victims of DV.

then
BL files a lawsuit AND publishes her accusations in the NY Times for all to see.
Baldoni looked real bad and I felt bad for Lively.
Poor lass.
He’s disgusting if that is all true!

But since then…
Accusations have been refuted with footage and full messages (not the edited versions BL put out).
IF you take JB’s timeline and all the receipts as presented truthfully and not edited
(Jeeze there’s a lot of them)
you can see how the reasons for all the promo confusion came from BL’s actions and deliberate choices to insert herself into areas of the movie she
A) was not hired to do
and B) other people were already hired to do.

Plus, she ordered that Baldoni not be present. Despite his requests to be included.
So she added to the online speculation about the very real bad blood all by herself.

BL did not hand over a list of grievances mid filming, they were demands.
Which is an interesting distinction. I can easily agree to demands if they had never happened and would never happen, right? To keep the movie going? If the “talent” is refusing to return to a half shot film?
I keep that in mind.

Then those demands were used as leverage to gain access to editing and producer credits. JB’s edit of the film canned. They used BL’s! She shows her own edit early against the wishes of SONY.
After taking over costume department.
After rewriting scenes. With her husband. Without the script departments knowledge! In a writers strike! Eeesh!
Freaking out Sony.
Removing the original composer annd his completed score and replacing him with the composer on her husband’s film. Asking the new composer to complete in 1 week. To rescore a whole movie! (He managed to squeeze it into a month.)
Replacing Marketing/promotions with her husbands company. Haircare and booze anyone?! Flower arranging and cookie baking with the cast?
All of the above at the studios cost (not her own).
The film went over budget.

BL say JB’s team tried to slur her online. But what I saw came out of her own mouth. And Kjersty Flaa has gone on the record with her own reasons for releasing her video that had nothing to do with a director she says she never took payment from or even met?!

There’ll be an “electronic” paper trail to prove or disprove all the orchestrated online smear campaign accusations. Which we haven’t seen yet.
the smoking gun email, turned out to be edited which spurred the mega release of unedited footage, email, voice mail and texts messages.
we’ve never seen such raw information dropped like this before a law suit.

What we do have - right now - are the facts of who did what job on the film and who got what credits. They show that JB was squeezed out of the film.
The guy has been slurred IF it is proven he didn’t S harass BL. Then the motive for all this action will be quite clear. Theft.
if he did. BL was a victim and she wanted to annihilate the man who did this to her in the name of justice and vengeance.
There will be more facts for sure.
They always affect my opinion of a person I don’t know.
i dislike liars, predators, bullies and thieves.

Someone is lying or deluded. Will make for a fascinating psychological profile later.

This trial by media is awful.
It’s my (not) secret vice this whole thing. Shhhhhh!
dont tell!

I think they should have settled it privately in court. This press coverage and leaks to the media etc doesn’t do either of them any good in my opinion.

They each will have a side of the story to tell and somewhere in the middle is the truth.

I think so too.
Nothing is black and white.
I also think once one of them went public, the other really had no choice.
The genie was out of the bottle.

Where can we see the text messages?

Where are the video clips and messages

There are two pdf files. One is the amended complaint the other is a timeline of events.

https://www.thelawsuitinfo.com/

Justin released them to the media. Do a google search.

There’s so much of it!
it’s fascinating and cringey how the director is literally massaging his leading actresses ego all the way.
so much sucking up!
its a weird dynamic.
hollywood eh?!

They are prob both not perfect but as she is the woman she will come off worse.

I never get this to be honest. I mean I don’t know Andrew Tate, for example, but I have a very bad opinion of him.

WRT Blake Lively - decent actress. I’m not entirely sure what to make of the current furore around her and JB but it does appear that the “media” are certainly gunning for her as opposed to him.

Serena Vander Woodsen OG fan for life.

to be honest, having read the leaked texts/emails, it appears there's very little difference between Blake Lively and Serena Van Der Woodsen

Saw this thread when it first came out, but didn’t know much so did some internet diving which has taken a while, this is my 2 pennys worth…

original thoughts
BL - B grade actress with mean girl vibes scored a A list celeb as a husband and has a close knit powerful girl group of friends. Probably happy living the high life while raising a family off the back of all this. Best of both worlds to me.

JB - never heard of him, one look and I though ewww that Jonas brother who was married to Sansa Stark ( also BLs friend) sleeze vibes.

Since my deep dive my thoughts are
BL - absolutely definite mean girl using her powerful connections to destroy someone she dosnt like and make herself look good and innocent.

JB - now recognise him as the actor from Jane the Virgin. Seems like a nice guy if not over the top American with his emotions and feelings. Seems to have a genuine caring interest in supporting causes such as domestic violence and coercive control, I think I read he’d lost his virginity to an emotionally abusive ex. His previous works show he has a genuine empathy for the less fortunate and bringing the struggles of others to the public eye, not just DV.

JB got the rights to the movie after the book author found he would absolutely do the book justice and felt he was absolutely right for the lead after being burnt on selling her book rights in the past. JB also wanted to make sure profits as well as publicity were to benefit DV causes even before he bought the rights. BL complete destroyed that choosing to promote her own hair care and alcohol brands. Well we all know that alcohol and DV mix well 🤔

BL from the onset played the game well using her leverage of not signing her contract even after going public she was playing the part. She ballooned the films budget over and over again and threatened to pull out when she didn’t get her way.

BL time and time again blamed JB and his team when ever there was negative publicity against her, even though it was all her doing.

BL refused to film for various reasons including using the writers strike as an excuse even though the studio had permission to film during the strike. And even though she apparently cared so much about the strike it didn’t stop her writing herself and using threats to get her script used during the strike. She then fucked up and went on record to say it was RR who actually wrote that part of the script ( while the writers strike was on) even though he was not under any contract to do so and with out any knowledge from the studios/companies involved.

Released video - not sure it proves SH, it looks like 2 actors practising the scene, trying to figure out what way to play it all out. JB seems focused on the background movements as he should as director. Given BL has continually said she’s a ball buster, calls it as it is hadn’t been afraid to call people out face to face, has powerful friends, she’s also an A list celebrity with agents and staff I don’t see how if at any time during that scene she felt she couldn’t pull back and say she wasn’t comfortable. This is apparently the scene they fall madly in love so I’d 100% expect touch, kisses and close body language between the two.

BL openly invited the man she claims made her feel uncomfortable to her trailer while breast pumping dose not say to me he made her feel uncomfortable.

All sexual innuendo, inappropriate texts came from BL not the other way round.

PR agencies that represented Johnny Depp - feel like this is a red herring, Hollywood is full of unscrupulous PR firms, BL & RR have their own which they actively engaged first in the case. The one JB uses has represented lots of celebs, it just happen to also be the one JD used during his high profile case.

There is proof BL was engaging with media to do an article on JB and harassment long before he hired the pr firm.

If I met JB I’d probably hate him, I hate ott emotions, touchy-feely over complimenting people and as I said my first impression of his pics is sleeze, but I don’t actually think he is guilty here, I fully think BL has 100% bullied her way into taking over this movie and has used excuses, made up lies and outright done her best to destroy people she dosnt like.

As a women who has been SH, touched inappropriately and been bullied sexually I am 100% on the side of women should be able to feel safe in any environment. But I’m a realist and know there are women out there who lie and destroy the work done to make women feel safe for their own selfish reasons, BL to me is one of them,

I'm so glad you wrote all of this. I'm following this entire case on the edge of my seat, and didn't know where to start. I'd like yo add to your extensive and detailed post that there is also video evidence of her stating that has in the past pretended to taken on the role of actress but really wants to usurp creative control. There is so much evidence that she tried to basically steal the movie from him in this case too.

I don't believe her. I did when it first came out, until all of the context was provided.

Another point is that her best friend, Taylor Swift, was very openly supportive of Keisha when she sued Dr Luke for sexual harassment and other things. In fact, she donated hundreds of thousands of dollars towards her legal fees. She hasn't said a peep in this case, and Blake said that TS was heavily, intricately, involved in every step of the movie. Why hasn't TS, woman's rights champion and best friend, not put her money where her mouth is and come out to say 'it's all true?'. In fact she has minimised her involvement and has implied that she wants nothing to do with it. That speaks volumes to me. She knows her friend has made up a false sexual harassment allegation.

Talking of which, this was the original complaint (which was all explained when we watched the video of the dancing scene). Yet now BL's legal team are subpoena-ing Justin's mobile phone provider for his entire phone record history over the past 2.5 years, his texts and phone calls to everyone. Why? Because they have no evidence and are hoping to go through Justin's metaphorical bin in order to find something incriminating. It's saddening to see posters on this thread defending BL for standing up to a 'misogynistic' abuser when the evidence suggests that she is the villain and he was actually the victim of a power imbalance. Thankfully he has the support of a mega wealthy financial backer, otherwise he would be ruined.

I've never heard of him.

Agree @Darkdiamond ive read a few articles about her being quiet on the matter which really dose speak volumes. BLs message was so arrogant and didn’t portray TS as a woman standing for women, it was very much I have a powerful friend behind me so don’t fuck with me.

There was an article that TS being booed at the Superbowl was related to this, but also some giving other reasons. But the timing has been great for the gossip mags.

As well as wanting JBs phone records they also bullied his agent and coercively accessed her personal phone and I think computer files, finding nothing.

there is also video evidence of her stating that has in the past pretended to taken on the role of actress but really wants to usurp creative control. There is so much evidence that she tried to basically steal the movie from him in this case too. I saw this after I posted, the woman is so arrogant, she’s constantly digging and dropping herself in it but has no self awareness at all blaming everyone else when she catches herself out.

The ones talking openly about supporting her all have something to loose, the director the the fiom she has coming out with Anna Kendrick has a lot to loose if it flops and people are talking about boycotting it because of BL so of course he’s taking her side. Same with the agency that represents RR & BL

I do wonder how much RR is regretting this as it’s damaging his image too, especially if he did actually illegally write part of the script during the writers strike and passed it off as BLs work.

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Wholeheartedly agree with both of your posts

The more this saga rumbles on, the more BL (& RR) are looking like a pair of total muppets

I've never seen anything BL has been in...and quite frankly not interested in seeing anything of hers, new or old

BL is a total mean girl personified, despite being a fully grown adult

She's absolutely awful

She seems vile

I don’t have any opinions on her one way or the other. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything she’s been in and gossip about her doesn’t really grab me.

What I did have an issue with is an article I read earlier today in which this actor had produced an email from her, saying that she was just pumping breast milk in her trailer if he wanted to go over lines with her, and that she’d breast fed her child in front of him before. Almost implying that she’d made no effort to hide herself away in a toilet somewhere where nobody could see her, so she clearly wasn’t that bothered about the possibility of sexual harassment from him. That really fucked me off.

The significance of that was that after she had accused him of SH stating he made her uncomfortable she then invited him to her trailer alone while she was pumping alone.

It’s not about a woman being made to hide while breastfeeding or even pumping but a woman who claimed she’d been sexually harassed by a man and then invited him to her trailer alone while having her breasts out. Even the most comfortable of public breastfeeding women would, I’d imagine, draw the line at inviting a sexual predator to join them alone while pumping.

Context is everything.

The hit piece on him in the NYT contained edited texts intended to show he was responsible for a smear campaign against her. He has set up a website which he claims contains all of their unedited communications so that the public can make up their own mind. If a publication has selected some of those messages to include in an article it is not because JB supplied them with a few to make her look bad.