Page 4 | “I find women too difficult”

ShiteRider · 01/02/2025 22:18

I feel more confident spending time with groups of men than women, I feel like I know where I am more with them because they’re more direct and straightforward in my experience.

I can’t imagine a group of men using phrases like ‘pick me energy’ because someone said something they disagree with.

Owly11 · 01/02/2025 22:18

Women who hate other women! Makes me laugh every time. So you are literally admitting to hating yourself!!!! I know internalised misogyny is a thing, but a little self awareness wouldn't go amiss.

NowThatYouSayIt · 01/02/2025 22:18

itsnotalwaysthateasy · 01/02/2025 20:43

I'd much rather spend time with males than females. Females in my experience tend to lie. only look after themselves and have tried to drag me down. Men say it as they see it and never hold grudges. They tend to have a better sense of humour too.

Snort.

BlueSilverCats · 01/02/2025 22:26

calvermegan · 01/02/2025 20:37

Having a conversation at work about funny house share stories. I mentioned I lived with 6 other girls during my uni years (we got on great and are still friends now).

Colleague said I’d hate that as I just find women so difficult and they always dislike me. Colleague is female and constantly says how well she gets on with men.

Aibu to think saying this is just bizarre? All men and all women are not the same. I’m not going to like or dislike you based on your gender.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy really isn't it? Surely you can see why (most,even if not all) women might react negatively to her attitude and those kind of comments. Which just reinforces her idea that women are difficult and dislike her. Round and round it goes.

Even you don't like her much (anymore) and you're happy to laugh at her , even if it's on an anonymous forum.

graffittimonkey · 01/02/2025 22:28

Surely all anyone can say on here is:

"My experience of living with Ana & Beth, was better than when I lived with Charlie & Doug"

Or vice versa.

What it's like to live with a specific individual is decided by much more than their genitalia 🙄

MagnoliaGirlie · 01/02/2025 22:31

Copernicus321 · 01/02/2025 21:43

Well, I think he's cute and you can probably tell from my username that I think he's fascinating.

I've just thought of a new game, 'fantasy houseshare'.

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Brian Cox is a legend! He's incredibly intelligent and passionate, and he seems so kind! I wish more ppl were like him.
And I love your username too @Copernicus321

Createausername1970 · 01/02/2025 22:31

I prefer to work in a environment that has a mix of men and women.

I spent 14 years in a school with about 40 women and the occasional man. It could get quite bitchy in the general staff room at times. There were often undercurrents.

I honestly have never experienced this in work places that were more balanced.

Anotherparkingthread · 01/02/2025 22:38

calvermegan · 01/02/2025 21:32

Ridiculous language like “pick me energy” … and then goes on to say “sometimes the trash takes itself out” 😂😂😂.

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Case and point.

MagnoliaGirlie · 01/02/2025 22:39

AliasGrape · 01/02/2025 22:15

Does anyone remember that experiment/ reality show they did where they had groups of children living together unsupervised basically, either all girls or all boys. The girls worked together, divided tasks, cooperated, arranged entertainment and kept themselves fed and clean. The boys house descended into Lord of the Flies style chaos more or less immediately, trashing the house and falling out/ trying to antagonise each other.

I always think of that story when people try to convince me how infinitely full of drama ‘females’ are, compared to the far more straightforward and team spirited ‘male’.

My husband’s male friends are pretty crap actually, not particularly supportive of each other, talk a lot of shit and have several times deeply upset him under the guise of ‘banter’. It’s all pretty superficial really. Was the same with my ex and his mates - actually that group of blokey blokey lads lads lads were actually cruel pricks to each other on the regular but it’s all bantz innit? Was very glad to be out of that toxic shitshow when we eventually split up. My female friendships are so supportive, we want nothing but the best for each other, cheer each other on through life and I couldn’t image being without them.

Sure I’ve had a couple of trickier female housemates in the past, but the worst houseshare I ever had was with two men (to be fair, one was lovely and is still a friend - the other was beyond vile).

I used to say if you have a problem with 50%+ of the population then the problem is probably you, but I take that back now because actually I find men as a group/ class to be increasingly problematic these days, as much as I love a select few of them and voluntarily live with one. And I find it ironic that saying that usually earns me an insistent ‘not all men’ from the same type of people who think because one houseshare didn’t work out then all women are screechy, bitchy, manipulative or whatever other misogynistic adjective they want to throw in the mix.

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I totally agree with you! You've put it better than I could have !

ReadingSoManyThreads · 01/02/2025 22:45

I'm a female and I also get on better with men than women. I find (generally speaking), women to be bitchy and judgemental. Of course I have female best friends who are amazing and wonderful who I really cherish, but other than them, I do get on better with men. I have some close male friends who I can chat with for hours. All completely platonic.

So I get where she's coming from. I also find the women on here who are making bitchy comments about her are exactly the type of women I avoid like the plague 😂😆

Wonderi · 01/02/2025 22:47

I have always hated when women say they prefer men or that all women are difficult or bitchy etc as I am definitely not.

But I have to admit that I actually turned a job down because the staff were all women and after working in 2 different departments with all women, I cannot go through it again.

I am autistic so I don’t know if it makes a difference but I have never known such awful places of work.
It was all bitching behind peoples backs and reporting people over the tiniest thing.

It was 2 completely different departments and both places had had more than 1 person leave because of bullying.

I had 2 grown women giving me the silent treatment because I didn’t drink at the Xmas party and apparently I thought I was better than them because of it - erm no, I was driving as there’s no public transport near me and I’m a single parent so couldn’t stay the night anywhere.

I still love women and being one and around them but I’ve definitely seen a side that I’d never experienced before when working in mostly male dominated areas.

Whyyes · 01/02/2025 22:48

ShiteRider · 01/02/2025 22:18

I feel more confident spending time with groups of men than women, I feel like I know where I am more with them because they’re more direct and straightforward in my experience.

I can’t imagine a group of men using phrases like ‘pick me energy’ because someone said something they disagree with.

What rubbish. On the few odd occasions that I've seen a man defending women or disagreeing with the male majority, other men rush to call him a simp or a White Knight

Whyyes · 01/02/2025 22:52

ReadingSoManyThreads · 01/02/2025 22:45

I'm a female and I also get on better with men than women. I find (generally speaking), women to be bitchy and judgemental. Of course I have female best friends who are amazing and wonderful who I really cherish, but other than them, I do get on better with men. I have some close male friends who I can chat with for hours. All completely platonic.

So I get where she's coming from. I also find the women on here who are making bitchy comments about her are exactly the type of women I avoid like the plague 😂😆

If you called a man bitchy or judgemental, I really doubt they wouldn't say anything negative back. You're literally insulting someone and then getting annoyed they've not just taken it or agreed with you.

Zippidydoodah · 01/02/2025 22:53

I often found my male friends easier to get on with than female, but that’s not to say I don’t/didn’t have and love female friends too.

everyone’s different. I don’t think it’s fair at all to judge this woman. Maybe she finds female friendships hard to navigate.

Fordian · 01/02/2025 22:55

The best house shares I've had have been mixed. I guess a big plus was that no one got off with anyone else- it would've felt like getting off with your brother!- as we'd all seen each other's smalls, often in the same wash load- mopped up after each other's alcoholic over-indulgence, heartaches, and nursed each other through heavy colds etc.

NotbloodyGivingupYet · 01/02/2025 22:55

She seems to have made an observation about her own experience, and is self aware enough to admit that other women don't seem to like her.
When you add that to the number of posts from people who are nd with similar stories then we might have a reason.
I'm frankly dismayed at the nastiness against her on this thread. Just because her experience is different to others' experience.

Zippidydoodah · 01/02/2025 22:55

What the fuck is “pick me energy”? Are you 14?

ShiteRider · 01/02/2025 22:58

Whyyes · 01/02/2025 22:48

What rubbish. On the few odd occasions that I've seen a man defending women or disagreeing with the male majority, other men rush to call him a simp or a White Knight

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I’ve literally never heard these phrases.

In my experience, if a man disagree with another man at the most they’ll roll their eyes or light heartedly call them a dick and move on.

Koimand · 01/02/2025 23:01

spacepies · 01/02/2025 21:25

I think over the years i have to say some women have got worse.

Which ones?

Nerdynerdynerd · 01/02/2025 23:02

Ugh I like a girls girl.

Martymcfly24 · 01/02/2025 23:03

Went to an all girls primary and secondary, teacher training college was 80% women and bar one male joining last year have worked with all women for nearly twenty years. All my house shares have been women ( and I now have only daughters!)
I love it! Wouldn't have it any other way.

StormyPotatoes · 01/02/2025 23:06

Interesting that several posters who have issues with women seem to be referring to them as ‘females’ but men as ‘men’. There’s a big group of not nice men who do exactly that.

Make of that what you will.

Grako · 01/02/2025 23:07

I have always said that a group of men are much nicer to eachother than a group of females

My experience is the opposite. The male friendship groups I see rip the piss out of each other. My female friendship groups are loving and supportive.

BunnyLake · 01/02/2025 23:07

Sometimes I prefer the company of men and sometimes I prefer women. Different situations can make one more appealing than the other (work, prefer men, out for a natter and cake, prefer women, etc). Living in a house share I’d probably prefer gay men.

Sparklfairy · 01/02/2025 23:11

I get what she's saying, although I wouldn't blurt it out like that. I've lived in a few mixed sex houseshares with some serious dramas (assault, stealing), and all the culprits were women. I'd be wary of either sex though if I houseshared again, I just have different concerns about men.

In the workplace, I've found women to be sly, jealous, and two faced. The sniping and passive aggressive behaviour you see on MN every single day, is pretty exclusive to women, men don't engage in that shit.

I'm under assessment for ADHD and I really hate trying to read between the lines and second guessing people, and not being able to trust if their behaviour is genuine or some ulterior motive. At least with men, mostly they just say/do exactly what they think. They cba with scheming. If they have an issue with you, they just say so, women try the whole frenemy thing and I guess I have a more black and white approach that means I'm more comfortable dealing with men.

It's not always a pick me thing, and if any women here get affronted by the friend in the OP because she's generalising, you're doing exactly the same thing dressed up in a different way.