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To be astounded at this behaviour from an 18 year old.

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123dontcomeatme · 30/01/2025 06:12

I'm awake and just trying to get my head around this. I'm middle aged and just reeling from the behaviour of this 18 year old boy.

My daughters first boyfriend, been together just over a year. Seemed nice enough but a few worrying traits which she would talk about with me over the year. Enough to be worries but not enough to end what was a fun relationship.

After a rough 2 months with him, she's had enough and ended things with him.

Hes not taken it well, it's a bit scary.

Hes found me on Instagram and sent me 2 messages telling me it's my fault and that I'm pathetic and a host of other insults.

My daughter is aghast and I'm just struggling to get my head around such unhinged behaviour. I cannot ever imagine anyone doing such a thing. How on earth can he think that's an acceptable thing to do.

I feel so sad for my daughter too and want to support her in the best way possible, but she's furious and dumbstruck and upset all at the same time.

I just can't get my head around the arrogance, entitlement and total disrespectful of an 18, nearly 19 year old boy thinking that's ok.

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Goose1510 · 01/02/2025 08:44

I would definitely contact the police. His behaviour is intimidating, unacceptable and abusive. Don’t wait for him to up his game.

CalmZebra · 01/02/2025 09:41

I’m so sorry to read you and your daughter are going through this OP. The unpredictability of the situation must be very scary. Sadly there is an epidemic of violence against women and girls so I would urge extreme caution.

I don’t want to scare you but when a relationship ends can be a very dangerous time for the woman. There are warning signs and normally escalating behaviours. I’d suggest both you and your daughter read Jane Monckton Smith‘s book In Control: Dangerous Relationships and How They End in Murder

and look at the 8 stages she’s has identified. Really hope everything works out for you both.

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Buzzardbird · 01/02/2025 10:36

This recently happened to a friend of mine, same age and similar responses (only he was a lot nastier). He is currently awaited a court appearance for criminal damage. It is likely that this might escalate. Please make sure the Police take you seriously.

TheOneandOnlyPrincessFiona84 · 01/02/2025 11:57

thescandalwascontained · 31/01/2025 20:19

I would be logging this with the police now, before he gets back. Tell him when he's arriving in the country, flight info, etc. Perhaps they can have a word when he lands...

100%.
This is abusive behaviour. . Contact the police and make sure it's all documented.

He will most certainly escalate this with future relationships and the more that his behaviour is documented, the better.

This is hopefully a luck escape for your daughter but someone else's daughter may end up harmed or killed.

seek advice from Women's Aid etc for safety planning x

TheOneandOnlyPrincessFiona84 · 01/02/2025 12:01

OneBadKitty · 30/01/2025 07:10

I think it's ridiculous to call the police because a teenager who is feeling hurt sent you a message on instagram and tried to call his girlfriend who dumped him. This is not dangerous behaviour, it's the behaviour of a young man who is feeling rejected, hurt and experiencing the loss of a relationship for the first time.

Just block him and don't respond. Unless he's threatening to harm you then calling the police is an over-reaction and MN often advise this for minor things which in reality are not going to get any action from the police. He'll get over it and move on no doubt.

You are an enabler. This is an adult man harassing women.
Take your pick me attitude and fuck right off

SerafinasGoose · 01/02/2025 12:06

TheOneandOnlyPrincessFiona84 · 01/02/2025 12:01

You are an enabler. This is an adult man harassing women.
Take your pick me attitude and fuck right off

Hear, hear. 👏

Chuchoter · 01/02/2025 12:09

Carrol, Hannah, and Louise Hunt were killed in their home by Louise's ex boyfriend.

I would report him to the police.

Scentedjasmin · 01/02/2025 12:50

I would be reporting this to his parents.

Arran2024 · 01/02/2025 13:43

Be very careful. My daughter's ex stalked her - he was 19. We knew him and had really liked him. It escalated over six months. Police kept threatening to arrest him "if he did one more thing" - they kept pulling him in for a chat, where he assured them it would stop only for him to just start back up again.

These guys are not acting rational. They are working on some crazy alternative universe.

Ex was eventually charged with stalking and everyone thought he would be convicted. But the magistrates basically decided to give him another chance. It was another "if you had done just one more thing" - they actually said that. But he was given a 2 year restraining order so they obviously thought he needed something.

Anyway, please read up on stalking and make sure you all stay safe x

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 01/02/2025 13:45

Antefatal · 31/01/2025 02:13

You’re being unreasonable only insofar as the fact that you are shocked that a man would react this way. All the stories in the papers and firsthand from women aren’t lies, sadly. I wish you all the best. ❤️ Unfortunately this is the reality we are living in.
Report him. Better yet, find his mum and send her the screenshots.

Yes, it is all over the news right not that Britain is experiencing an epidemic of violence against women.

Arran2024 · 01/02/2025 13:47

OneBadKitty · 30/01/2025 07:10

I think it's ridiculous to call the police because a teenager who is feeling hurt sent you a message on instagram and tried to call his girlfriend who dumped him. This is not dangerous behaviour, it's the behaviour of a young man who is feeling rejected, hurt and experiencing the loss of a relationship for the first time.

Just block him and don't respond. Unless he's threatening to harm you then calling the police is an over-reaction and MN often advise this for minor things which in reality are not going to get any action from the police. He'll get over it and move on no doubt.

That is very bad advice. Check out Alice Ruggles

Arran2024 · 01/02/2025 13:55

Theeffingcleaner · 31/01/2025 22:26

Has his parent/parents been made aware of his appalling behaviour towards your daughter and yourself? For one I would let them know if possible how their son has acted and show all of conversations, missed calls, threats etc. If my son behaved like this towards a girl I would hope that the girl involved would have the courage to tell me. Parents need to know and get involved to nip this horrible coercive behaviour from this lad asap.
As others have said report to the police so they are aware of his insane behaviour towards you both. I hope your daughter takes measures to stay away from him for good and in the mean time makes sure she is with someone at all times incase he turns up. Do not ignore his erratic behaviour put things in place to protect your daughter. You never know what he could be capable of doing,

When my daughter was being stalked by her 19 year old ex, we did not contact his mother. The police told us to have no contact with the family at all. It was hard as we had known his mum and sisters quite well. For one thing it can escalate the perpetrator, who now has the embarrassment of his family knowing, which can make them even angrier and now have them angry with the mother too (they never take it out on the dad!).

And tbh the perpetrator's mother is often scared of him too. We hadn't realised but the young man we thought we knew was quite horrible to his mum and our daughter kind of knew it but never said.

Theeffingcleaner · 01/02/2025 14:37

Arran2024 · 01/02/2025 13:55

When my daughter was being stalked by her 19 year old ex, we did not contact his mother. The police told us to have no contact with the family at all. It was hard as we had known his mum and sisters quite well. For one thing it can escalate the perpetrator, who now has the embarrassment of his family knowing, which can make them even angrier and now have them angry with the mother too (they never take it out on the dad!).

And tbh the perpetrator's mother is often scared of him too. We hadn't realised but the young man we thought we knew was quite horrible to his mum and our daughter kind of knew it but never said.

This may be the case . I’m saying as a parent I would like to know how my son was behaving towards a girl/women, they may not be aware that he is doing such a thing.I would certainly be embarrassed and shocked that I had bought my son up to act like that towards any woman.The trouble is with society no one speaks out against men or women behaving in a coercive manner even if they are scared of person / family members etc.

Im saying police should also be contacted and informed that his family have been made aware of how he has acted and then let them do their job stopping the lad / or anyone else from contacting the mum and daughter

Arran2024 · 01/02/2025 14:51

Theeffingcleaner · 01/02/2025 14:37

This may be the case . I’m saying as a parent I would like to know how my son was behaving towards a girl/women, they may not be aware that he is doing such a thing.I would certainly be embarrassed and shocked that I had bought my son up to act like that towards any woman.The trouble is with society no one speaks out against men or women behaving in a coercive manner even if they are scared of person / family members etc.

Im saying police should also be contacted and informed that his family have been made aware of how he has acted and then let them do their job stopping the lad / or anyone else from contacting the mum and daughter

Yes, involving the police is the way to go.

It is difficult when dealing with an adult to contact their mum. We felt that the age thing made it inappropriate to call his mum. Our daughter, who was 18 and so also an adult, was also vehemently opposed to us getting involved. So we felt we had to abide by her wishes too.

Turned out there was a lot she hadn't told us and she was genuinely worried for our safety if we antagonised him. For a while I was terrified he would poison the dogs or set the house on fire, seriously itxwas a situation that required deescalation, not ramping him up.

We knew that he would be telling his mum nothing and it was tempting to want to tell her, but she was already wary of him. Parents were separated and he only listened to his dad, who we didn't know. She had no useful influence.

Itsme3167 · 01/02/2025 15:04

Not in my friends case. Exactly the same scenario and her daughter was murdered by her ex. She was 15 he was 17. WTF makes you think this is NOT a reportable incident????? It’s dangerous controlling behaviour from a MAN……NOT A KID!!!!

Mum2So · 01/02/2025 15:27

This all sounds scary and he sounds unhinged. He clearly has some issues to work through and I can't help but pick up some unhealthy vibes. I think you and your daughter should stop contacting him to let him cool down. End the dialogue so neither of you will say anything that might set him off. No-one knows what he's like and what he's capable of, but like all of us he needs to process the end of the relationship and work through it. Let's just hope he's nothing like Holly Newton's ex.

bombastix · 01/02/2025 15:50

Yah all the mothers saying tell his mother and she will sort it.

I don't think so. Either she's totally ineffectual to produce a bloke like this or has little to do with him.

Police. Mothers of men like this have every reason to downplay it.

Cherrysoup · 01/02/2025 16:38

Log with police, keep messages says my DH, police officer.

I just watched 24 Hours in Police Custody where the victim had hundreds of calls with voice changer and messages from her ex, including death threats/messages purportedly from her about having killed her dc. He got a 3 year custodial sentence, frankly not enough, imo.

2Pudding · 01/02/2025 16:41

Go to the police with your daughter, be insistent that you have an incident number. Hopefully in the last 7 years (when I left my abusive ex-husband) the police have improved. Don't unblock him as suggested by a pp as this could escalate the situation further and make sure your dd has no contact with him or responds to any messages/texts.

ChoccieCornflake · 01/02/2025 19:53

Please for the love of God go to the police. Why on earth would you not - this is exactly the sort of behaviour displayed by men who go on to murder women.

BigSilly · 01/02/2025 19:56

Unless he has threatened you, why would you go yo the police. Its not illegal to blame you and voice these thoughts.

Stopsnowing · 01/02/2025 20:01

BigSilly · 01/02/2025 19:56

Unless he has threatened you, why would you go yo the police. Its not illegal to blame you and voice these thoughts.

It is harassment and is illegal

Rosscameasdoody · 01/02/2025 21:07

BigSilly · 01/02/2025 19:56

Unless he has threatened you, why would you go yo the police. Its not illegal to blame you and voice these thoughts.

Jesus Christ. He doesn’t need to threaten in words, the behaviour says everything. It’s harassment and of course it’s illegal.

Nikki75 · 01/02/2025 21:16

I agree with other posters on here.
I would report this to the police keep messages and anything else he has done .
I'd also let him know he has been reported.
Does he have parents or family near by that are approchable.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 01/02/2025 21:44

BigSilly · 01/02/2025 19:56

Unless he has threatened you, why would you go yo the police. Its not illegal to blame you and voice these thoughts.

If you "voice thoughts" at people who don't want to talk to you, and do it in an aggressive way, it very rapidly becomes illegal.

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