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AIBU?

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AIBU about "friends" gossiping about DD?

232 replies

Gossipygossip · 27/01/2025 12:21

I'm annoyed, but not sure if I should be, although I have certainly learnt a lesson here.

Went out for dinner with four school mums, that I have known since reception and our children are now in the last years of secondary school so for some time. We have always been open and honest about parenting, ND diagnoses, challenging behaviour, marriage up and downs. So my DD has started a relationship and although she is was 15 when it began, it was sexual. They are still together over a year later, and we are happy that's it's a supportive and loving relationship and of no concern. It was young to start having intimacy, but it was her choice and is doing everything the right way with protection etc.

Also we talked about our children going to parties etc, and drinking. Felt like an open sharing conversation over a curry and a drink or two.

Except I then find out one of my friend's husbands has been gossiping to another husband (of a mutual friend who didn't attend the dinner), about how my DD is engaging in underage sex, and what awful parents we are.

AIBU to feel like something said, if not in confidence, but at least in friendly trusting environment, is been used in this way? Would you say anything to your friend that passed this on?

OP posts:
Truth25 · 27/01/2025 16:25

I would judge you. You really think a 15yo is capable of having an adult relationship. And you are ok with a child having sex? Yes I would judge and I can imagine others did too. Sorry op far too young and also no to sharing this

Truth25 · 27/01/2025 16:30

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 27/01/2025 13:13

There are so many issues with this I’m not even sure where to start.

Let’s leave aside the privacy issue,
You talk about your daughter’s relationship as being an adult relationship. At 15. It’s not, and neither should it have been treated as such.

Children should all be talked to about contraception, but that should be on the understanding that having sex under the age of 16 is illegal and that at 15 she is in no way old or mature enough to consent.
Condoning your 15 year old daughter having sex is shit parenting.

At 15 relationships need to be so much more relaxed than that. By essentially making her relationship into a @grown up@ relationship you are giving her a maturity and expectation which she is nowhere near old enough to have.

💯

luckylavender · 27/01/2025 16:32

origamitiger · 27/01/2025 12:22

I wouldn’t be happy if I were your daughter - I think discussing your child’s sex life with your friends is really off.

This

outerspacepotato · 27/01/2025 16:36

Stop your gossiping.

Stop sharing your daughter's private info. Medical, sex life, how school is, that's private.

ScaryM0nster · 27/01/2025 16:38

Gossipygossip · 27/01/2025 15:47

This is excellent, and exactly what I am tempted to send. Thank you

You’re getting a lot of bashing for the conversation, which I don’t think is fair.

If we can’t talk to long term friends as a sounding board about some of the more delicate issues in life then something has gone very wrong with the world.

The key bit is the trust and confidentiality between the group, which seems like you’ve seen as a given and has some how gone awry.

I’d guess in that bit of :
You assumed what’s discussed in the group stays in the group.
She assumed that conversations between husband and wife are fair (as many do).
Husband didn’t clock that this is stuff you don’t pass on, she assumed that was blindingly obvious so didn’t spell it out to him.

Your plan to follow up with that message seems thoroughly sensible. And lesson learned for the future for the group, to pin down the confidentiality before getting into anything sensitive.

I hope she’s at least as embarrassed as you are

boxyboxs · 27/01/2025 16:39

Stop your gossiping.

People who have friends normally discuss problems with them...

DogJog · 27/01/2025 16:41

I could understand it if you were gaining support or insight from a close
Friend about how worried/ concerned you are about your daughter being intimate or in a relationship so young, but it sounds like this was discussed in a 'look how much my daughter has grown, I'm so proud', kind of way, which is pretty grim. I suspect there were other ways you could have reflected on your daughter's growth, other than through her sex life, especially given she's ND and possibly also struggles with over sharing.

KilkennyCats · 27/01/2025 16:51

boxyboxs · 27/01/2025 16:39

Stop your gossiping.

People who have friends normally discuss problems with them...

Op doesn’t have a problem with her daughter’s “adult” relationship.

boxyboxs · 27/01/2025 17:06

People also discuss non problems with. friends

YoungGunsHavingSomeFunCrazyLadiesKeepEmOnTheRun · 27/01/2025 17:20

Oodlesandoodlesofnoodles · 27/01/2025 14:27

I disagree that OP is the only person at fault here.

Adult men gossiping about a teenage girl’s sex life is disgusting, misogynistic and bordering on Paedophilic in my opinion. The mums were over sharing. The Dads talking about it when they weren’t even party to the initial conversation is worse.

It sounds like they were slating ops parenting rather than discussing her dds sex life in depth.

I love how you've described women discussing teenagers sex life as 'oversharing' whereas the men mentioning it in the context of saying op is a crap parent (not a POV I agree with on that issue , but that's neither here nor there) as disgusting, misogynistic and paedophilic though.

Op is the one to blame because they wouldn't have been able to discuss it had op not divulged her 15yos intimate details to anyone else.

nodramaplz · 27/01/2025 17:21

If you don't want anyone to know something, tell no one.

nodramaplz · 27/01/2025 17:25

Why are the husbands even mentioning it.
What twats!
Hope they weren't joking about your DD

No respect for men that gossip!
I expect it from women! They too can be twats

NiftyKoala · 27/01/2025 17:40

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 27/01/2025 16:08

Can anyone tell me a logical reason why two men should discuss a 15-year-old girls sex life.

I get the feeling they really weren't stating the daughter but the parenting. No matter what this girls privacy has been violated terribly. Even children should have a right to privacy. I get the feeling OP's friends feel the same as the fathers. Why else would they have spread the news. I hope OP ever shares this type of info again.

blackbird77 · 27/01/2025 17:42

WoolySnail · 27/01/2025 14:10

Where I work I come into contact with a lot of men of varying ages and they are the biggest gossips going!

Men absolutely LOVE gossip!!!

WoolySnail · 27/01/2025 17:57

blackbird77 · 27/01/2025 17:42

Men absolutely LOVE gossip!!!

Yep, it's always made out to be women but it's definitely not!

Littlemisscapable · 27/01/2025 18:18

Truth25 · 27/01/2025 16:25

I would judge you. You really think a 15yo is capable of having an adult relationship. And you are ok with a child having sex? Yes I would judge and I can imagine others did too. Sorry op far too young and also no to sharing this

Yes.this..dont normalise this..she is too young for this I would be a lot lot more cautious. They are gossiping about your parenting and your seemingly casual attitude to this.

CashewGal · 27/01/2025 18:30

@Truth25 @NotOneOfTheInCrowd and others. Real question -- what's your prevention method for underage sex, and how would you know for sure it was working? Around 20% lost their virginity by 15, Yougov found. It used to be one-third. All down to bad parenting?

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 27/01/2025 19:38

Gossipygossip · 27/01/2025 15:47

This is excellent, and exactly what I am tempted to send. Thank you

Def think you should op!

meh2025 · 28/01/2025 00:37

@boxyboxs What problems? OP said she is fine with her daughter's "adult" relationship. In fact she said "They are still together over a year later, and we are happy that's it's a supportive and loving relationship and of no concern. It was young to start having intimacy, but it was her choice and is doing everything the right way"

So OP was simply gossiping about her daughter's "adult" sexual personal private relationship to four other women, who then went and did the same.

sunshine237 · 28/01/2025 05:03

Doingmybest12 · 27/01/2025 13:33

I'm a bit of a prude but I'm surprised so many are shocked about a 15 year old with a steady boyfriend having sex, I'd kind of likely assume it really. I'm surprised it's a topic to be discussed in a group and definitely salacious for friends to report home and then one husband to discuss with another. Id be really upset that my lack of judgement has been compounded by friends gossiping. I'd have hoped the people hearing it initially would think its private information and respected that.

Same.

Sharptonguedwoman · 28/01/2025 09:04

TheignT · 27/01/2025 16:11

Or why 4 women would.

Because of worries with contraception? I had a similar conversation with a friend whose daughter had boyfriend sleeping over often and in the same bed. I expressed faint surprise. Friend said life was too short and daughter was in late teens.
If kids are going to have sex, they will. In cars, on beaches, whatever. You might not like it but they will. Better to know and guide with contraception, surely?

RitaFromTheRanch · 28/01/2025 09:25

I would send that text. It's not okay

NeedToChangeName · 28/01/2025 09:40

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 27/01/2025 12:53

To shut this down, I’d send messages to the DH’s.

Please stop discussing my 15 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER’s sex life. It’s very strange behaviour. I didn’t share the information with you, I shared it confidentially with a friend. If you keep discussing this I will seek legal advice.

"I will seek legal advice"??!!

No crime has been committed, other than by the boy having sex with an under age child

TheyAreNotAngelsTheyDontCareAtAll · 28/01/2025 09:49

You condoned underage sex? how old was the boyfriend at the time?

TheignT · 28/01/2025 15:38

Sharptonguedwoman · 28/01/2025 09:04

Because of worries with contraception? I had a similar conversation with a friend whose daughter had boyfriend sleeping over often and in the same bed. I expressed faint surprise. Friend said life was too short and daughter was in late teens.
If kids are going to have sex, they will. In cars, on beaches, whatever. You might not like it but they will. Better to know and guide with contraception, surely?

I'm sure the op knows about contraception but if not she could get her an appointment with a sexual health clinic who will provide a professional service but it doesn't sound like she had any concerns so yes she was just gossiping.

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