To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

[CyanSeal]

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

What is it about gun culture, poor health care, no working rights and a rapist leader that you like so much?

The royal family would never have it

I bloody hope not.

We should be so lucky. In 2008, American GDP per capita was a little over $14,000 higher than the EU or UK equivalent. In 2023, it's almost $20,000 higher. The US has grown 21pc; the EU, with all the advantages of catch-up growth across a wider area, 15pc. Despite containing 100m more people, the EU and UK economies are now smaller in value than the American one, squandering by 2020 a lead that was over $3 trillion in 1990.

There’s more to life than money.
Gun culture
Lack of health care
Lack of workers’ rights
Lack of bodily autonomy for women
A convicted felon, misogynist, rapist, racist, homophobic leader.

Id rather be a bit poorer, thanks.

Elon, is that you?

Completely Nuts , best to leave for the usa now op

Good points - I can’t disagree I was thinking about cost of living primarily but also just this week… knife crime, child grooming gangs, appalling sentencing and conviction rates for sexual assaults and rape (<1%), 3rd world healthcare, 2 women killed by domestic violence every week... No where’s perfect I guess!

Well I think the number of women killed in the US per week is worse than the UK

All those th8ngs are worse in the US. Maybe apart from cost of living -I don’t have figures on that but imposing tariffs is only going to drive it up.

Food prices are horrendous in the US, especially if you want to eat something other than processed crap full of additives, pesticides and carcinogenic colourings that have been banned over here (for good reasons) for decades. Internet connectivoty also screamingly expensive.

Ludicrous- we are far too stubborn and set in our ways to accept take over from anyone, things certainly haven't changed that much.
Where do you get the idea there is a lot of UK support of Trump- I don't know anyone who doesn't think he is laughable and criminal.

What I’ve read about US food safety standards does worry me, especially now we’ve left the EU and will be doing separate trade deals with the US.

I can’t see it happening now as USA and uk are already allies and the uk have just left the EU with support by just over half people who voted so I’d gauge the mood to be not uniting

Never heard of so much rubbish in all my life, I sometimes wander how people get to come up with stupid suggestions, Let's face it the Americans will soon be falling out with each other soon .

Imagine the guerrilla warfare if they tried to take the UK. It would make Vietnam seem like a holiday camp.

Ffs

Yes, but GDP is a misleading measure - where does that money go? Not to the people. If you include their dysfunctional healthcare system as an equivalent to the tax that we pay for the NHS, they pay significantly more in taxes than we do and less of the increase in GDP gets to the general population.

The cost of living is vastly higher, all the way down to just basic foodstuffs (around 20-25% more than the UK, even including our cost of living crisis). All they seem to care about is keeping the cost of petrol down...which is irrelevant here, relatively speaking (because the landmass is so much smaller). That gap's only going to increase with the lunatic tariffs.

And god forbid you actually get ill and need a hospital stay. Or need to pay the $10-15k it costs to have a baby, for that matter (especially since abortions are going to be full-on illegal at some point in this term). And for all that money, you'll live 3-4 years less than somebody over here.

Yeah, they're really lucky.

😂 …tell me you don’t have a clue about economics without telling me.

If you think we've had a bigger economy than the Americans within living memory you know nothing about economics either.
The 1990 figure will be the WHOLE of Europe and the UK.
Only tech keeps the US ahead, their manufacturing base has substantially gone, like ours- they are bigger than us but are not in the far better position you imply. Looking at statistics only gives you part of the story.

Engineering news ‘A major body blow’: industry reacts as UK manufacturing falls out of global top 10

UK vs. U.S. Manufacturing: How Can the UK Close the Productivity Gap?

especially since abortions are going to be full-on illegal at some point in this term).

I'll bet you all the contents of our bank accounts that they won't.

The Economic policy being pursued by the U.S government would not be something that lands well in Europe (including UK) as generally the European public as US economic policy that benefits the super rich (how much money do you need to be happy, one has to ask!) and us diametrically opposed to the interests of the poor, would make our governments even less able to provide the services citizens expect, and our societies even more unequal.

If the UK really wanted to close the productivity gap, it would

a) build more houses
b) reduce commute times
c) improve childcare

in that order. More houses would solve a lot of issues as people could then live closer to work and not need a stupid commute which slows everyone down.

However it's far easier to pay people less.