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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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JHound · 27/01/2025 18:55

MissConductUS · 27/01/2025 18:16

It depends on their circumstances. If they're low income, they can apply for Medicaid, which will cover medical expenses retroactively for a time. If they don't qualify for Medicaid and genuinely can't pay, the hospital may write it off as charity care, which non-profit hospitals are required to do. Or they may owe the balance.

92% of the population has either private insurance or government provided insurance. The other 8% is a problem. The Affordable Care Act coverage offers heavily subsidized private coverage based on income, but it's not retroactive. People can't be forced to obtain coverage.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-284.html

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It’s not just 8% that have issues. Even the insured can have issues. The film Sicko laid it out quite nicely.

Even personally my aunt’s cancer treatment had a 20k excess.

JHound · 27/01/2025 18:57

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 16:54

Mississippi wouldn’t be the poorest state anymore. I’m sure they would be supportive.

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Source for that image. Although I can imagine that - the USA has a lot of uber wealthy individuals, but also lots of extremely poor ones.

JHound · 27/01/2025 19:00

Betchyaby · 27/01/2025 14:24

US healthcare is far superior, you just have to pay insurance. We pay higher taxes and our NHS has collapsed due to being over burdened. Waiting a month for a Drs appointment, waiting years for an operation? This doesn't happen in the US.

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How is it superior when the uninsured or underinsured do not have access to quality healthcare?

In the UK you can also pay your insurance and have access to private healthcare but the NHS exists as a safety net. Nobody in the UK has to go bankrupt due to medical costs.

bettbburg · 28/01/2025 11:55

MermaidEyes · 27/01/2025 14:34

Good news! As a retired American military officer I say with authority that your token deployments hindered more than helped, at least in Helmand. The chain of command was a cluster fuck

Why on earth is an American military officer posting on a British forum predominately for women and parents?! Is Reddit closed today?

They might actually be female. Other than that, I agree

saltinesandcoffeecups · 28/01/2025 12:10

JHound · 27/01/2025 18:57

Source for that image. Although I can imagine that - the USA has a lot of uber wealthy individuals, but also lots of extremely poor ones.

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Look close and you’ll see the source.

To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?
JessicafelloffTheKnappett · 28/01/2025 12:50

This thread disappeared overnight for "Breaking Talk Guidelines"....(not that I thought it did).

Why is it back all of a sudden?

No comment from @MNHQ about why it was removed, or why it's back 🤔

Guinessandafire · 28/01/2025 12:53

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:28

Me too!

Then again I’d take Mr Bean over Starmer

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Here we go again, another far right thread starter making stupid claims about Starmer, but dressing it up as something else.

I'm genuinely disappointed that Mumsnet doesn't delete these threads as soon as they are created, they are that ridiculous.

MakeYourOwnMusicStartYourOwnDance · 28/01/2025 12:57

JessicafelloffTheKnappett · 28/01/2025 12:50

This thread disappeared overnight for "Breaking Talk Guidelines"....(not that I thought it did).

Why is it back all of a sudden?

No comment from @MNHQ about why it was removed, or why it's back 🤔

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Yeah, I noticed that! I had notifications saying I had been quoted/reacted to and when I clicked on to see, the thread came up deleted for breaking talk guidelines. Confused
Now it's randomly back.

trivialMorning · 28/01/2025 13:01

JessicafelloffTheKnappett · 28/01/2025 12:50

This thread disappeared overnight for "Breaking Talk Guidelines"....(not that I thought it did).

Why is it back all of a sudden?

No comment from @MNHQ about why it was removed, or why it's back 🤔

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I wondered this as well.

luckylavender · 28/01/2025 13:03

I've seen stupid posts before but nothing on this scale

cardibach · 28/01/2025 13:07

Ddndka · 27/01/2025 18:51

Why don't they have savings and a rainy day fund?

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Why should they have to spend that on artificially inflated medical bills (and they are - look at drug prices in the US versus anywhere in Europe for a start) instead if enjoying life or their care as a senior?

Feelslikewinter · 28/01/2025 13:17

siblingrevelryagain · 27/01/2025 13:18

The only slight (and it it clutching at straws) silver lining I can see to Trump's abhorrent anti-immigration policy and deportations is that, very quickly, it will show the rest of the world in real time, once and for all, that immigration isn't the issue the head-bangers on the right think it is.

Just like over here, crime won't go down for the US when they are deporting and closing the border, food and gas won't be cheaper, housing won't be more abundant, and they will quickly get sick of them and their precious kids having to do the pool cleaning, social care and farming jobs they're currently too good for.

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Sadly there are plenty of non-white US citizens who will shoulder the blame after the immigrants are pushed out.

Abhannmor · 28/01/2025 13:44

JHound · 27/01/2025 18:55

It’s not just 8% that have issues. Even the insured can have issues. The film Sicko laid it out quite nicely.

Even personally my aunt’s cancer treatment had a 20k excess.

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My friend had to find $15k out of her pension fund for an op she had ages ago. She thought she was covered ....being a nurse at a major hospital. But there was some small print in the policy ....

Ddndka · 28/01/2025 13:46

cardibach · 28/01/2025 13:07

Why should they have to spend that on artificially inflated medical bills (and they are - look at drug prices in the US versus anywhere in Europe for a start) instead if enjoying life or their care as a senior?

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I meant having savings in general for example. Like in case you lose Ur job.

cardibach · 28/01/2025 13:53

Ddndka · 28/01/2025 13:46

I meant having savings in general for example. Like in case you lose Ur job.

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I live in the U.K. I’ve never been able to amass savings in the 10s of thousands what with paying for a mortgage and food and so on.
Plus wha if they get ill and that causes them to lose their job? They only have one set of savings. Having a medical system in an advanced industrial country that causes people to spend their life savings/go into unaffordable debt is just inhumane. It’s wrong.

SerendipityJane · 28/01/2025 14:18

cardibach · 28/01/2025 13:53

I live in the U.K. I’ve never been able to amass savings in the 10s of thousands what with paying for a mortgage and food and so on.
Plus wha if they get ill and that causes them to lose their job? They only have one set of savings. Having a medical system in an advanced industrial country that causes people to spend their life savings/go into unaffordable debt is just inhumane. It’s wrong.

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able to amass savings in the 10s of thousands

In my ear I really can't help hearing :

"Anyone unable to amass savings in the 10s of thousands by the age of 30 can consider themselves a failure in life"

to doubly non-paraphrase Margaret Thatcher 😀

(That'll confuse the bots)

Ezkay · 28/01/2025 14:25

SerendipityJane · 28/01/2025 14:18

able to amass savings in the 10s of thousands

In my ear I really can't help hearing :

"Anyone unable to amass savings in the 10s of thousands by the age of 30 can consider themselves a failure in life"

to doubly non-paraphrase Margaret Thatcher 😀

(That'll confuse the bots)

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... confused the hell out of me too. Are you saying PP should have been able to save vast amounts?

PandoraSox · 28/01/2025 14:46

Ezkay · 28/01/2025 14:25

... confused the hell out of me too. Are you saying PP should have been able to save vast amounts?

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Jane is riffing on this:

fullfact.org/news/margaret-thatcher-bus/

SerendipityJane · 28/01/2025 14:55

Ezkay · 28/01/2025 14:25

... confused the hell out of me too. Are you saying PP should have been able to save vast amounts?

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Well either that, or they are failures in life.

Ezkay · 28/01/2025 15:02

SerendipityJane · 28/01/2025 14:55

Well either that, or they are failures in life.

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... and this is something you believe?

pointythings · 28/01/2025 15:35

Ezkay · 28/01/2025 15:02

... and this is something you believe?

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No, it's sarcasm. I know this poster well. The person who originally suggested that everyone should be able to save is another matter, however.

Balancedcitizen101 · 28/01/2025 15:36

I hope not. I will happily make it my life's work to prevent that takeover.

JHound · 28/01/2025 15:39

Seriously I love Yankland, I have more family members in Yankland than anywhere else on the planet.

I like to visit and would even do a secondment there / potentially live there.

But do I want it taking over the UK? Not bloody likely.

And Trump is a deranged misogynist mad man.

JHound · 28/01/2025 15:40

Abhannmor · 28/01/2025 13:44

My friend had to find $15k out of her pension fund for an op she had ages ago. She thought she was covered ....being a nurse at a major hospital. But there was some small print in the policy ....

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Number one cause of bankruptcies in the USA are medical costs. I don’t know why people want to pretend there are not significant issues with their system.

EasternStandard · 28/01/2025 16:23

JessicafelloffTheKnappett · 28/01/2025 12:50

This thread disappeared overnight for "Breaking Talk Guidelines"....(not that I thought it did).

Why is it back all of a sudden?

No comment from @MNHQ about why it was removed, or why it's back 🤔

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Yeh I thought the same, not likely to happen but didn't break guidelines

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