To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

[CyanSeal]

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

@EasternStandard I'd think the same if it was some communist telling me it was good to hand over my country.

Seriously, it's rhetorical argument of a sixth former.

I'm pro US but not pro idiots

Mississippi wouldn’t be the poorest state anymore. I’m sure they would be supportive.

the rampant use of guns is scary

Actually we British should be really proud of that. The second Amendment exists as a direct response to the fact that tyrant King George tried to ban colonialists from owning guns. It really is our fault.

We mustn't dismiss all and everything American. After all they are a country that did exactly what a lot of British folk would like to have done at some time or other and told their rulers exactly where to get off.

And very sweetly they have preserved some of our words for us in case we ever needed them again.

I thought that about the phrase 'wet melts' tbf

Well that’s a lie. Are you really in America? Or just having fun? Not seeing the humour myself.

When the UK voted brexit the brexit voting types often said they wanted to bring back the British Empire - not become part of an American Empire!

So I'm not sure he'd get that one across the line however much some people think we're so ready to get our kids killed at school and/or die bankrupt from cancer treatment instead of getting it free as we do now!
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You’re an idiot

When the UK voted brexit the brexit voting types often said they wanted to bring back the British Empire - not become part of an American Empire!

Admittedly they weren't our brightest and best though.

Anyone in particular?

Are you ok? Maybe a sit down and some sweet tea.

Oh was that why? I could've sworn it was because they didn't want Brussels dictating how powerful a vaccum cleaner or light bulb they could have!

That's what they said. I'm not sure I believed them.

Especially as the singular thing about the UK is the lack of post 2020 high power vacuum cleaners and lightbulbs you could see from space.

Anyone who can't see the anti-American bias here is either willfully blind or massively unconsciously biased.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5185753-to-ask-why-americans-seem-fixated-on-conspiracy-theories?reply=138989679

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4901138-wait-what-americans-dont-put-butter-in-their-sandwiches

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/3342486-Do-you-dislike-Americans?reply=80392048

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4952766-americans-are-lazy-cooks?page=1

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1207695-or-is-prejudice-against-America-considered-OK-by-most-of-mumsnet

The Scots were told to suck it up when they were taken over by the English

Bias or opinion?
Are people not allowed to dislike things about America and say so?

Denmark said fuck you. Egede of Greenland has said they want independence from Denmark, but not to be part of the US. Sounds like the opening bid in a negotiation to me. Egede might have some brains.

Canadians and Americans are too different to merge, although I do actually know one Canadian in Alberta who wants Alberta to join the US, but I don't see that happening either. Americans don't want it any more than Canadians do.

What Trump really wants is for you to control your border. The opening bid in the negotiations is "I'll take Canada." Not because he wants Canada. In military terms, he's shaping the battlefield. Trump went to a military high school and I recognize some of his strategies: disorient your enemy, come out of nowhere, catch 'em off-guard, etc. Trump's next bid, which he's already gone to, is tariffs. Not because he wants tariffs. He doesn't want tariffs. We're your largest trading partners by far. Tariffs would hurt Canada badly. Nobody wants that. He wants you to control your border. He's told you and Trudeau what he wants, and it's not been done. It's really not too much to ask.

@ChessorBuckaroo
People like you are the reason I stay on here, great knowledge share, thank you.

Trudeau has gone - sadly.

Nobody wants that. He wants you to control your border.

Agree tariffs are just a way to get what the US wants, look at Colombia

@EasternStandard a very useful bit of Scottish slang imo

Not to hijack the thread, but you challenged me. I'm a born and bred daughter of the American south, darlin'. My ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War. My father fought in Europe in WW2 and I also volunteered my body in the service of US foreign policy for waay too many years.

I've lived in 13 states and two foreign countries, and I've spent time in some real garden spots at Uncle Sam's request. I have had a traumatic brain and spinal cord injury, which leaves me with moderate mobility issues. So I spend a lot of time here.

You want to know what healthcare system in the US really sucks? The fucking VA. That's the system for injured military veterans. It's single-payer, and it's a disgrace. No thank you on an NHS system. I've seen the VA in action (or inaction) with friends, and it's horrific. No.

Had a brain fart-sorry.

Yes I stand corrected - thank you.

Its an interesting thought. Alberta I would suggest is more about wanting not to pay GST because of oil money and having a non tax province before this came along back in the PST days. But I seriously doubt on balance most would want to go.

Trudeau is on his way out as he has resigned so it will be interesting to see who gets elected/chosen as party leader next.

Yes 80% of Canadian trade is with the US and Trump has already ripped up NAFTA (democratically agreed by Canada, US and Mexico). It was supposed to cripple Mexico and it didn’t (when it was first introduced).

I think what Trump conveniently forgets that a lot of the imports to the US are because goods are cheaper, not available in the US or made by Canadian materials for US goods - cars, natural resources etc spring to mind. Let’s also not forget that Canada exports electricity to the US to the tune of about five million homes. So sure the US buys that electricity which we export but it’s because the US doesn’t have enough of its own in some areas. Not to mention enormous amounts of crude petroleum, minerals and petroleum gas which cannot easily if at all be made in the US. Yes cars could but they would then be much more expensive and the steel in these cars is in part mined In Canada.

As for the border, yeah there are problems but Americans control the border on their side in most major places - unless of course most people crossing from Canada to the US are doing so illegally in Saskatchewan….so they need to tighten up too. Easy to blame us but just as much for the Americans to address. Additionally let’s not forget that when Trump was elected the first time the Canadian Immigration website crashed due to the overwhelming response from Americans who wanted to immigrate. Or until we had health photo ID cards Americans were sieving across the border for healthcare.

Still he can’t just ‘decide’ he owns a country and take it over…..

I'd really love to know how many people in UK who think it's a good idea for us to become another state of USA were the same ones who voted for Brexit?
Can they not see the irony?

I would suggest that anyone, either here on MN or their numerous alleged friends and acquittances who support this ridiculous suggestion, can just emigrate there if they think their lives would be better.

Are you from the University of Hard Knocks and Tough Surpises?

I think some Americans have been telling the English that we are on the verge of being commie limey fags for as long as I have been alive.

Quite why they'd be interested in occupying us now rather than at any other point needs some explanation