To think that wolf whistling wasn't such a bad thing?

[NovemberMorn]

Joanna Lumley has just given an interview in which she says..."I never minded wolf whistling, I always thought it was tremendous".

She also said... "I think we were a little bit tougher then. Somebody put their hand on your leg, you didn’t feel affronted and report it. You’d give them a slap.”

Do you think she is right?

It has never crossed my mind that it would be right for children to be subjected to harassment in the street.
The word 'girls' is often used to describe young women....which is what we were discussing at the time.
Sad that you interpret my meaning as to be such, and deliberately change the word to CHILDREN, to suit your own agenda.
You are obviously desperate to point score, but try not to sink to such depths.

Is this aimed at me?

if it is I won’t retract it, sorry but the defense that these builders didn’t do it, because no children happened to be around is not a decent defense.

Put them on a building site next to an all girls (yes girls as in female children) and if the don’t do it then, I’ll accept it. But the chances are they would, because they felt they were entitled too.

@aliceinawonderland

You do know that there are plenty of school in the City of London. One of the schools is even called City of London Girls! 😂 They commute in trains get out near Liverpool street etc. Do you really think City of London doesn’t have under 18’s walking about at all?

No, I didn't interpret anything. Girls are children, that's just a fact.

I can understand you being embarrassed by your own words quoted at you and desperate to score points, but you said what you said and there's nothing to be done about that.

My only agenda is not to allow anyone to minimise how distressing street harassment is to many.

Yours appears to be to try to bully anyone who disagrees with you into silence no matter how many facts are presented to you.

Odd.

Basically, Op it's turned into a pile on against the people who didn't mind the occasional ww and have also never witnessed children being targeted, but these posters with there constant reference to, "street harassment" claim it is true. They then say they have proof. They don't because where is the proof? We believe them anyway but in return they call women who didn't mind the ww's, weak with low seld esteem and resort to saying that they weren't as great as they think they were! I would give up Op, I am too as these vitriolic, angry, angry posters cannot and will not accept that other people have experiences that don't mirror theirs .

I think that builders put on a site next to an all girls (yes that’s how they are referred to) would street harass them.

The girls attending those schools are children.

Nope. Nobody has said, to my knowledge that if you enjoyed strange men making weird noises at you, or chose to ignore strange men making weird noises at you, or that it didn't happen to you at all that was a problem. Good for you.

But women who have found street harassment offensive, disgusting or upsetting simply won't be bullied into silence.

This started as a women who complained were not tough enough! Are we all to bow down to that then?

Were you the poster who said it was only men on their 20s that did it? Can you prove that?

You are right.
The discussion has got out of hand, changing words to suit their own agenda, trying (and failing) to browbeat others with a different opinion.
Sad, because before the harridans got too excited, it was interesting.

Let them get on with it...there are now more interesting threads to join. x

Let'ss take it back to the start. The OP asked if street harassment was ok, and for some odd reason quoted Ms Lumley, and implied that women and children who hated steet hararssment were weak.

She has spent the rest of the thread arguing with anybody who disagreed with her.

And then there are the posters who seem determined to claim that they are not allowed to enjoy strange men making weird noises at them, or not to be bothered by strange men making weird noises at them.

Except I haven't seen anyone saying you cannot enjoy street harassment if that floats your boat, or find it insignifcant if that's your point of view. Maybe I missed that, but all I have seen is women saying no, they hated it and refusing to be silenced on that.

So, to sum up, the OP has had her question answered in full and robustly, and the answer is No, most of us do not think street harassment is ok and no we are not weak for hating street harassment.

Again, I changed no words, I summarised that you said that women and children are weak if they hate street harassment and then quoted you saying women and girls.

Girls are children, so nothing has been changed. While your words quoted back to you are indeed embarrassing, so is your continued attempt to rewrite the thread.

Thank you for calling women and children who have experienced street harassment and been upset by it harridans.

It shows perfectly who you are.

No i didn't say that. Men of all ages do it, in fact in my experience it's older mem that are more likely to ww.. I'm not talking about bowing down to anyone. I'm just asking why people are unable to accept that women are allowed to have different opinions and experiences? The response to that is shouting down posters they don't agree with whilst ranting about children being targeted that many people have never witnessed.

Could you please quote where someone has said that women who enjoy having strange men make weird noises at them are not allowed to have different opinions and experiences?

Could you also please directly quote people shouting down posters they don't agree with whilst ranting about children being targeted.

Thanks.

You won't get anywhere, they're the type of people who because you speak with your own experience will be shot down. If someone said to me girls, I would think girls, ie 18 to 20 plus, I call my 18 year old and her friends girls, not women and thats obviously what you meant too, by implying children they're putting a total different slant on it so don't feel upset, that's just very low to come out with that, take care

Three different men on one 30 minute walk around the park, during covid. Like fuck it's a minority or dying out, just because you're lucky enough to hat it has for you. I stopped going for walks around the park after that only for someone to cat call me as I put rubbish in the outside bin about 6 months later. Last year I got a 'nice tits' as I walked to the tube to go to work.
I'm a very average looking woman in my 40s, so presumably it's still even worse for more desirable young women.
The only thing that is changing is women's willingness to tolerate it. Men still seem to be catching up.

You won't get anywhere because she has directly quoted what you said and because girls are children.

Fixed it for you. You're welcome :)

💯 agree

But be honest, seriously did you think that person meant children or young women, you know well she meant young women so why discredit her by pretending you thought she meant children, hand on heart you must know she didnt mean that..I'm be so impressed with you if you admit that.

What do you describe female children as?

What do you describe as a school only females attend?

Yep, it's less accepted now, but still prevalent. I added a video earlier of a woman being street harassed in NY. The scariest part of it was that it was absolutely what I expected to see and tallies up with my own memories of being younger in any city I was in. It's ten years old but I doubt much has changed.

Girls are children. Her own words discredit her.

You being impressed with me won't make me lie, I'm afraid. Yes she meant children. Because girls are children.

I've already answered above

I'll ask again, do you honestly think she meant children , nothing to do with using the term girls, do you think she meant children?

I don't see an answer. Do you call female children girls or not? If you don't call female children girls what do you call them?

Sorry, can't be bothered because you twist everything to fit your own agenda anyway and I'm joining Op n exiting the thread. You find the myriad of posts denigrating women who are being run down because of their opinions if you want to reread them. Oh, and stop saying men are making "weird noises". Whistling and shouting "Hello, Love" etc is just that - whistling and shouting! Enjoy the rest of the thread.