Am I a far right extremist?

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I had a conversation with my best friend of 25 years the other day and she called me a far right extremist and how my views are scary, dangerous and 'nazi coded'
I was really shocked as I didn't think any of what I said was bad. I'm not a particularly avid supporter of any political party and very much keep opinions to myself. She's very supportive of labour and anti trump and always has been. Usually when she asks me my opinions I just don't want to get into it but I did the other night and now I feel bad.

Here's the breakdown:

• she sent me an article and told me that Nigel Farage is going to ban abortion eventually if he wins an election. I read the article and pointed out he only suggested lowering the abortion cut off date to 22 weeks (not 24 as it is now). I told her it wasn't the end of the world and it's reasonable if you read his reasons. I also made the point that men shouldn't really be getting involved in abortion law but that what he said wasn't the end of the world.

• she asked me about immigration and I said that it's great but that we should be prioritising skilled immigrants and have stronger immigration laws. She also asked about asylum seekers and hotels and I said that we should have stronger laws about monitoring people and collecting documentation when people arrive.

• she sent me and asked about Elon Musk's Nazi salute and I said I didn't interpret it that way

• I said that immigrants who rape or murder should be deported.

To me this feels really reasonable and not over the top but she really attacked me for it? Now I feel really awkward and uncomfortable talking to her. Is this far right??

Agree

I'm guessing that OP is the type that just wants to "have a sensible discussion about immigration", a lot.

Anyone denying that was a Nazi salute is not someone I’d want to be around.

The guy got lost in a frenzy, forgot himself for a moment and had to turn his face away to think about how he was going to backtrack with ‘my heart goes out to you’

I’m on the centre left and agree on all those points except Elon musk.

he knew what he was doing

I love it how no one is afraid of calling a load of footie hooligans knocking out that salute as deliberately provocative but when Eloner does it everyone's analysing the precise angles and his footwork

You've been backing a lunatic, live with it

Well no not really. The definition of being far right isn’t limited to how willingly you are to admit it or act in such a way.

People are still racist (some obviously not all) but know not to be as blatant as they were before.

Again people in 2025 know what the rules and laws of society and work are and will often ‘hide’ their true feelings. Some people who are racist - again not everyone is.

Telling people that they are far right extremists is a great way to talk them round to your point of view. Look how well it worked for the Democrats.

That’s a still not a video.
He’s waving not saluting.
His political positions are quite well known.
He doesn’t publicly support fascist German Political Parties or “Tommy Robinson”
If he’d actually done a Nazi support he would have apologised.

He knew exactly what he was doing. To him, a powerful and unimaginably wealthy man, it is a game.

I don’t think Musk’s gesture should be interpreted as a Nazi salute. Why? Because there is no indication that Elon Musk is a Nazi, or indeed, anything other than stridently anti-Nazi.

He is vociferously pro-free speech, which is completely antithetical to a Nazism. He is against state control. In his recent interview with Alice Weidel (the only time I have ever heard him reveal his personal opinions on Nazism), it is quite clear that he regards Nazism as a historic evil.

There is no view that I have heard him utter, that indicates the slightest sympathy towards Nazi sensibilities.

There are multiple alternative interpretations of the same gesture, as demonstrated by the various images floating around of Obama, Macron etc, none of which to my knowledge have been interpreted as a Nazi salute.

I also didn't know this about him, although there are a lot of varying opinions on this thread.

OP, I don't think you are particularly right wing.

it is quite clear that he regards Nazism as a historic evil

That's the problem

What did it go to then?

But the Executive Order states that "it is the policy of the United States to recognize two sexes, male and female."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/

What's wrong with that?

For example

So people doing it on the terraces aren't actually doing a nazi salute, because it's not good enough quality 😮

You’re now allowed to say you are English anymore, they come and arrest you, just for saying you are English. You can go to Prison, if you say you are English.

Looks like a failed dabbing tbh

@Grammarnut " I am a second wave feminist but have become comfortable with the support for abortion on demand, for example"

Puzzled by this....

That still to me is definitely not a nazi salute, however I do think he deliberately did a salute that looked close enough to get everyone talking. Do I think he's a nazi - no. Do I think he's dangerous individual with no care for society - Yes.

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How do you feel about Macron’s?

I'd agree with a lot of your opinions apart from Elon Musk, I think he's a raving lunatic and that was a Nazi salute

See my post at 13:11

You don’t sound at all well educated on the issues, but not an extremist.

Does the salute make the Nazi or does the Nazi make the salute?