To feel everyone is anti trans?

[Kitjo]

I'm well aware of current US views led by Trump - but are these views generally held/supported in the UK? Of course I understand opinions on NHS gender reassignment funding, as well as controversies over trans women in sport. Needless to say I'm fully aware of concerns over women's safety issues. Are there any sympathisers or supporters out there? What about trans masculine folk who are surely no threat to women's safety or sport? None of these people would choose such a hard life, socially, financially, physically, mentally, emotionally... am I alone in thinking a bit of kindness and compassion towards the trans community might be appreciated for the massive personal struggles they have to face? I am open minded to hearing and understanding your views.

Most people support and love trans people. Mumsnet is just a cesspit of anti-trans hatred. Trump would do well here.

I have no problem with people being trans, but I do have issue with the way gov has tried to give them equal rights

Jesus fucking Christ.

People can't change sex.

There's a lot of TRA who display very male patterns of misogyny and violence. Male bodied individuals have no place in women's sport, prisons, refuges, changing rooms etc.

What is 'trans'? You cannot actually transition from one sex to another. You will always be your biological sex. You can wear what you like, change your name, and feel whatever way you want. You cannot force others to accept you have gone from male to female or reverse. Stop denying facts snd biology. Why try to get others to believe lies. You cannot force others to use the ridiculous 'cis' or use pronouns they don't agree with.

It feels like an ideology, a social contagion in young people who struggle with puberty and mental health issues and or often autism. The poor children in school having to buy into a lie when they know their classmate isn't now a boy, but wants to be in their safe spaces.

Then there are the predators assuming a cloak of pretending to be 'women'. An increasing number in court.

The sportswomen cheated of their rightful wins by men. Men who use the 'twaw' to cheat their way into medals etc. Pushing real women aside. Using their male advantage to win. It's wrong. Why did society buy into that rubbish.

I think people are or have woken up to the damage done in the name of 'be kind' . Today damage to children, to sportswomen, to society, to women, it's ridiculous and pushback was so needed.

Why are you hanging out in a cesspit of hatred? If I thought a website was a cesspit of hatred, I'd y'know...not go there. That's why I don't go to Reddit.

The number of posts on here: "I'm not anti-trans, but..."

I have news for you. You are anti-trans.

It’s the take over of women’s spaces by trans etc. if they understood women they would not feel entitled to intrude on women’s spaces.

Why would a trans person need to stay out of a disabled space?

No, most are anti bullying of women.

I’m gender critical. I align with radical feminism. Gender is a social construct, it’s made up, and it’s damaging.

I still cannot fathom why any feminist imagines Trumps actions are about the best interests of women. Absolutely zero to celebrate in a rapist’s decisions on this.

Define 'trans'

I never thought much about trans people 5 years ago. I certainly would not have been unkind or discriminate against someone because of it. My only view was to pity them for the heavy burden that their disorder created for them and their families.
However trans activists and their bag carriers have entirely created this current atmosphere of hatred and distrust by their own actions in undermining women's rights, the promotion of life altering drugs and surgery for vulnerable children and the demand that we change our thoughts and language to accommodate their fantasies and, in many cases, fetishes

if life is difficult they need to look to their own behaviour. I save my sympathy and compassion for those that deserve it.

If not believing someone can change their biological sex, and not wanting biological men in female spaces makes me anti trans then yeah, I’m anti trans.

I don’t care which set of stereotypes people choose for themselves but don’t believe for one split second that people can change sex.

As long as biological males stay out of woman’s spaces then I’m all good.

Because these things are on a continuum - part of a pushing of boundaries until you reach the point of normalising sex with minors. Over the years, various posters have linked articles setting this out in fine-grain detail.

@ilovelamp82

What I can't and won't do is be expected to actually believe that they are not the gender they are at birth. For me science is science.

Nobody is a gender at birth, they are a sex.

Define 'trans'

It's the thing you're anti. HTH.

Most people are anti bullshit not anti trans. You can't have 60-70 genders, it's scientifically impossible and this is what most people can't get behind.

💯 poor children

If not believing someone can change their biological sex, and not wanting biological men in female spaces makes me anti trans then yeah, I’m anti trans.

Yes, you are. That's what I said.

A lot of the time, expressing concerns about certain aspects of the debate gets people labelled "anti-trans" , when in reality they are just not "100% behind trans people trumping everyone else in all areas".

Ah that’s fine then, happy to own that.

I have a problem with your title/statement.

Firstly you 'feel' - so this is just a feeling you have, no evidence, no facts involved.

I think we have over-elevated feelings. Feelings are a normal part of human emotion that we all need to learn to cope with. Angry, sadness, anxiety - these are normal emotions and part of the human condition. Are they easy? - hell no, but it is part of being an adult to learn to manage them.

We should not be making important decisions based on transient feelings.

'Anti-trans' - for me this is just nonsense ideological language. Are you talking about people who object to men forcing their way into women's spaces and sports? If you are then yes, I object to this. I object to all individuals who think that their ideology, beliefs and feelings mean that I am forced to do what they want and say what they want, to allow them to control me and others. I am 'anti - being bossed about by controlling assholes'

They already had equal rights, it's the privileges they demand over others which get peoples hackles up

Tbf, I’m on here and Reddit and there isn’t a big amount of difference in hatred. Some of the things people comment on here are awful. But then I only follow gardening and hobby subreddits.