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To think she should drop the single parent label in these circumstances?

254 replies

Ynhj · 21/01/2025 10:27

Before I say what I want to say it’s important that I make it really clear that I have huge respect for single parents. I can’t begin to imagine it all falling on you and nobody there to share the load. I’m not trying to minimise that here but I do feel with my sister it’s very different.

She works Monday to Thursday while her child is in nursery. She has Friday off with her child and then her ex collects on Saturday morning and spends the weekend doing what my sister says… if she wants to join then she does, if she wants to go out she does, if she wants to do zero parenting all weekend then that’s what happens. Anytime she needs her hair doing or nails or to meet a friend etc she can, whilst also having a full day a week with her toddler and enjoying the weeknights without the stress of being a SAHP. Her ex pays her loads and covers all the costs and more. She has openly admitted she uses the surplus half for their child’s savings and half for herself. In practice this means her food for the month or her hair and nails paid for.

In contrast I have two dc and don’t work. I have a very hands on dh but it’s rare I get two days of a weekend to do what I fancy. It does happen but it takes planning and certainly not every week! Despite this my sister is constantly on about being a single parent and how she has found ways to manage it, comparing herself to me when I am struggling with two and our situations are very different. AIBU to think she needs to stop talking about herself as a single parent? I think it’s insulting to actual single parents and to people like me who are struggling despite not being single because we don’t have the luxury of full weekends off parenting and nursery in the week!

OP posts:
TheTigerWhoCameToEatMyArsehole · 22/01/2025 20:47

Split up with you husband and do the same if that's what you want ? Jealousy isn't a good look.

Teasloth · 22/01/2025 21:04

I am a lone parent and I am also single.

Wouldn't bother me at all her calling herself a single parent.

We all have our own struggles and it's hard to explain to someone how it feels to have to make every parenting decision alone and be financially dependable for everything.

That's what I find hard, but again, no one gets it unless they're in it so doesn't bother me at all what people call themselves.

It sounds like a bit of jealousy to me which is totally understandable. It'll probably be very different when her ex finally meets someone and suddenly isn't as dependable as usually happens.

I was also a little jealous of couples when I got no break when child was small. However... Now child is older I don't find it as hard and actively enjoy their company so am glad there isn't someone trying to take half my time away

I also have friends in marriages that sound harder work than being a lone parent so I'm also grateful for that 😁

Teasloth · 22/01/2025 21:08

BarbaraHoward · 21/01/2025 16:40

🙄 she isn't. Maintenance payments go into the pot to run the house. Like many, income is greater than expenditure and so some is saved for the DC's future and some pays for luxuries.

"Single mother spends maintenance on getting her nails done" is such a misogynistic trope surely we know better.

I used to get accused of spending it on alcohol because I once bought a bottle of wine with the shopping which apparently if I could afford I didn't need maintenance money 🤦🤦😂

Oldenpeculiar · 22/01/2025 22:01

Teasloth · 22/01/2025 21:08

I used to get accused of spending it on alcohol because I once bought a bottle of wine with the shopping which apparently if I could afford I didn't need maintenance money 🤦🤦😂

Oh haven't we all been there! Unless you're in sack cloth and ashes and eating gruel then you don't need maintenance.
Bypasses people that the maintenance is supposed to be 50% for each parent of the cost of the child regardless of if the mother has enough money to pay her contribution (and usually a lot more) and get her nails done or buy wine as well with her own earned income.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/01/2025 22:03

I don't think you should compete with your sister about who is most tired you can both be tired.
She's working four days and doing all the nursery runs and bedtimes by herself before an after work, it's hard work. Please don't begrudge her that she gets some rest and fun at the weekend and that she seems to have a good coparenting relationship where she can join them too - she's lucky compared with many single mums. But surely there is nothing stopping you and your husband doing every other weekend taking the kids out on Saturday separately for example so you both get alternative breaks - why would that need loads of planning?

ZestyJoey · 22/01/2025 22:03

I feel like there should be a reality show to settle this... Kind of like Wifeswap? Two sisters swap responsibilities for a week. If what you're saying is true, she needs to be humbled a bit. Nothing worse than a chronic complainer who has the easiest life of all....

Quiinkong · 22/01/2025 22:06

Ynhj · 21/01/2025 10:27

Before I say what I want to say it’s important that I make it really clear that I have huge respect for single parents. I can’t begin to imagine it all falling on you and nobody there to share the load. I’m not trying to minimise that here but I do feel with my sister it’s very different.

She works Monday to Thursday while her child is in nursery. She has Friday off with her child and then her ex collects on Saturday morning and spends the weekend doing what my sister says… if she wants to join then she does, if she wants to go out she does, if she wants to do zero parenting all weekend then that’s what happens. Anytime she needs her hair doing or nails or to meet a friend etc she can, whilst also having a full day a week with her toddler and enjoying the weeknights without the stress of being a SAHP. Her ex pays her loads and covers all the costs and more. She has openly admitted she uses the surplus half for their child’s savings and half for herself. In practice this means her food for the month or her hair and nails paid for.

In contrast I have two dc and don’t work. I have a very hands on dh but it’s rare I get two days of a weekend to do what I fancy. It does happen but it takes planning and certainly not every week! Despite this my sister is constantly on about being a single parent and how she has found ways to manage it, comparing herself to me when I am struggling with two and our situations are very different. AIBU to think she needs to stop talking about herself as a single parent? I think it’s insulting to actual single parents and to people like me who are struggling despite not being single because we don’t have the luxury of full weekends off parenting and nursery in the week!

Lmao so, even though she IS a single parent, you resent that she has help and should therefore not be referring to herself as a single parent? Haters always gon hate

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/01/2025 22:08

Marianus · 21/01/2025 11:27

So what you are saying is that some of her lifestyle is being funded by her ex and 100% of your lifestyle is funded by your dh.

🤣 yes I didn't spot that bit

Orangeandgold · 22/01/2025 22:15

She’s a single parent. She just co-parents too.

Im a single mum - and my family take on a lot of the childcare so I’ve been able to have somewhat of a life. But just because I have childcare - it doesn’t mean I’m not a single mum.

Shes admitted that she’s making the most of her situation so she isn’t moaning about being a single parent. We come in different shapes and sizes. I did feel strange the moment I realised that I’m actually enjoying being a single parent.

I know some single parents have a hard time. But I have a few friends who are single parent - and some of us have found that (once we’ve got our life together, routine and steady income and support network) being a single parent (if you had a hard time with a partner) was so much more empowering and liberating.

Feels like you need to find your support network. Don’t do it all alone. Is your partner helping.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/01/2025 23:25

Serencwtch · 21/01/2025 11:58

You sound very jealous & a bit nasty.

Yes she's a single parent so if course that's how she can describe herself.

If you want to go back to work then your DH should support that - is there scope for you both to work part time or compressed hours & share child care etc or you could use a nursery a couple of mornings or a day if you need time to yourself. Or you could have a child free day at weekends & DH look after them.

Or join a gym with a creche

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/01/2025 23:27

September1013 · 21/01/2025 12:07

I’m a working single parent and my child’s father has him for one night a week. I might have one night a week where he isn’t physically in the house with me but I’m still responsible for every aspect of parenting him including managing the finances, buying his clothes, sorting doctors appointments, school admin, homework, booking wraparound care, organising transport etc. It’s hardly “co-parenting”!

Same here. We deserve to hair our hair cut and nails done on our odd few hours off!

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/01/2025 23:29

I think you're forgetting that babies and toddlers wake up with teething etc regularly in the night - being the only parent doing that, then getting up for work, is so hard

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/01/2025 23:31

Chocolatey1234 · 21/01/2025 12:11

Also going against the grain not all single parents are equal. Some single parents do a brilliant job and do have a hard time.

My DSIS threw her partner out two weeks before my eldest was due effectively making herself a single parent. She was lucky if she had DN on her own for a couple of hours a day unless she was in bed. Between her ex partner, ex grandparents but mainly my DM. DSIS always had time to herself and had time out from parenting.

As DM did so much for DN and DSiS this meant I/we got no help, support or time from my DM whatsoever.

If I visited DM, DN (who was a big toddler and was always jumping around and DM couldn’t even hold either of my two without DN kicking off. So whether DSIS was at work (part time), tidying her house up, at the hairdressers, shopping or meeting a friend or she was visiting and drinking coffee at DM’s while DM was in charge etc). DN was also forever having sleepovers at DM’s and DM’s spare bedroom was referred to as DN’s room to my DC!?! My in laws lived over 3 hours away and DH worked very long hours so I was more frazzled and fraught as when DH got home after 12 hour days he was shattered and I had a meal ready and on a weekend he wanted us to do something as a family (with me as party leader, party organiser).

Meanwhile my DSIS was seen swanning about in town getting her hair done, seeing friends on her own, or having time off to tidy up, go to the doctors, time to get herself ready for work, having some time to herself etc whilst moaning that she was a single parent and how hard it was.

My DM wouldn’t even baby sit for us to have a night out on our birthdays, didn’t do any childcare when I worked part time. My house was a mess as I struggled to keep on top of it. I even had to go for a smear and the dentist etc with two kids in a double buggy (as DM was always busy with DN so any requests from us were always refused.

Another jealous sister here- your DH should let you have time off at the weekend and do some parenting by himself it doesn't all have to be 'family time'

kirinm · 22/01/2025 23:32

Why don't you get a job OP? See how much easier parenting is with a full time job.

Elizo · 22/01/2025 23:46

If you’re the only adult in the house with a child you’re a single parent. Why does it matter. Maybe def could add a strap line single parent - but my sister has it harder

TwinklySquid · 23/01/2025 08:04

There’s a difference between a single parent and lone parent.
Single parent may co-parent with another adult. Lone parent does it all.

I co-parent with my ex, who has our daughter every other weekend, and I’d call myself a single parent. You can’t compare having a partner around to not having one. It’s hard work when you are working and doing all the drudge of parenting. If you have a bad day, you have someone to have the kids. Single parents tend to just have to get on with it.

It sounds like she has an ex who appreciates the effort she puts in and is happy to give her a break. You do sound bitter to be honest.

Chocolatey1234 · 23/01/2025 09:14

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 22/01/2025 23:31

Another jealous sister here- your DH should let you have time off at the weekend and do some parenting by himself it doesn't all have to be 'family time'

Ok get lost @Unexpectedlysinglemum another advocate of tit for tat parenting. As DH was out of the house so much with work and travelling time. He was fit for nothing by the time he got in from work (no hobbies nothing). The weekends he recovered and we spent time together as a family. During this time I was on mat leave. Yes our lives were hard and totally revolved around the DC. But if I adopted the tit for tat parenting approach i.e. you went to the gym three times this week so I am going to the gym three times and you have had a night out with the lads and came home at 2am so I am having a night out and staying out until 3am. We would never see each other or our DC. This wasn’t what we wanted.

I did expect my parents living locally to actually want to see me and my DC occasionally. I didn’t need or want the same level of support my DSIS received but even 10% of the support and interest she received would have been better than the 1% we received. Given everything they did for her and her DC.

Chattyham · 23/01/2025 11:33

You’re clearly jealous of your sister’s situation and that’s fine for you to feel like that.
I guess we all have different set-ups and there are pros and cons to them all. She may be jealous of your ‘family unit’ who knows but try to just be supportive and enjoy what you have and make small changes to give yourself a break or take a part time job as jobs give you me time also. It’s hard. Take care of yourself

Dottiemay · 23/01/2025 11:54

Chocolatey1234 · 23/01/2025 09:14

Ok get lost @Unexpectedlysinglemum another advocate of tit for tat parenting. As DH was out of the house so much with work and travelling time. He was fit for nothing by the time he got in from work (no hobbies nothing). The weekends he recovered and we spent time together as a family. During this time I was on mat leave. Yes our lives were hard and totally revolved around the DC. But if I adopted the tit for tat parenting approach i.e. you went to the gym three times this week so I am going to the gym three times and you have had a night out with the lads and came home at 2am so I am having a night out and staying out until 3am. We would never see each other or our DC. This wasn’t what we wanted.

I did expect my parents living locally to actually want to see me and my DC occasionally. I didn’t need or want the same level of support my DSIS received but even 10% of the support and interest she received would have been better than the 1% we received. Given everything they did for her and her DC.

You do sound quite jealous of your sister though. As a parent in family unit with two people, you can share the load, logistically, financially, emotionally. Your sister doesn't have this. It's a struggle. If your parents are kind enough to help her out, that's great.

Tittat50 · 23/01/2025 15:41

A single parent is a single parent. The emotional and financial burden is itself significant ( even if she is getting money).

When the dad has completely disappeared from their life, that's a whole other group and that to me is the hardest by far.

I would do whatever is possible within your means to improve your situation. Is there any way to get more time for yourself. Sleepovers for the kids? The problem is you desperately want a bit of free time and an escape from the drudgery. There's not one thing wrong with that. It's tough with no time off ever.

Burntt · 23/01/2025 15:59

There is a range within single parenting just as there is within couples.

I e been a single parent with an ex who does nothing and hardly pays. That was very hard work. Then got a partner who helped out loads with my kids that were jit his even before we lived together he would mow the lawn or pop to the shops for me on the way home- that stuff makes a massive difference when it's all on you. Now I'm single again and my ex who stepped up still will pop to the shops if I sos and he pays maintenance and even occasionally takes my older two who are not his. This situation is VERY different to my first situation as a single parent and actually easier than being in a couple in my experience as I get time off from youngest regularly and my older ones are of course old so it's not as hard doing that alone

ellyeth · 23/01/2025 16:38

She works 4 days a week, and presumably she has to do at least a minimum of housework, cooking, cleaning, etc. in the evening? I accept that some husbands don't do their share at home, but some do.

She is a single parent. Why are you so worked up about it?

TwirlyPineapple · 23/01/2025 17:21

You could almost have what she has- go back to work four days a week and split the weekend days 50-50 with your husband. No, you wouldn't have two days in a row off every week but you can have one and trade off with him occasionally to get two days.

Even if you didn't divide the weekends fully, there's no reason you can't find time for the hairdressers, nails and socialising.

If you don't want to do that, rein in your jealousy and stop moaning.

bexollie · 24/01/2025 11:53

Well , I was married when I had two children Husband was accused of child abuse so I divorced him. He never saw the kids or took them out . He didn't buy for them and they don't know him. I raised them provided for them and took them away on holiday. One of them was prem and had health issues and special needs . They both did well but I am a carer don't work but I do work and have worked to bring them up alone . I call that a single parent. My parents never had them over night there were no relatives to help . Some have it easy

Stolengoat · 01/02/2025 12:13

I totally get it op, she's got it good but still likes to complain even chance she gets.