Is it really that wrong to want for your country what Trump stands for?

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I know that there are plenty of threads on Trump at the moment, but most of them are designed to rubbish the guy. That’s been done to death in the last 10 years.

He has still won two presidential elections so perhaps it’s time to move the discussion on a bit.Let’s put aside Trump’s personality, bluster, and whether he will deliver or not, for a second.

Is it really so wrong and bad to want to go for what his core message is? Why is the far right label used so liberally and will we ever see a government in this country which can tackle this madness -

A stop to or huge reduction in illegal immigration

Putting your own country first ahead of internationalism. It’s not a novel idea and certainly not a byword for automatically wanting war. In fact Trump’s argument is that war is bad

Saying no the climate hysteria. Climate change is real but climate emergency seems to be a made up concept to simply tax people to death to re distribute taxes to government lobbyists. Why should people accept being poorer in the name of this dangerous ideology

Putting a stop to woke madness. When did it become ok for state sponsored mutilation of children? Men pretending to be women in prison and hospitals getting access to women’s spaces. People being sanctioned do not using the correct pronouns

Driving the economy forward and putting a stop to endless freebies for those who have no intention of contributing to the system and refuse to work because they are sad.

The fact that someone as eccentric as Trump has to fly the flag for common sense ideas shows you just how batshit the political discourse has become.

Science is not a Point Of View @RingoJuice, it's FACT.. Remember that? You were possibly taught to distinguish fact from make believe in school? You should have paid more attention.

It's sadly not deemed as malpractice because they would be breaking the law. Those poor families could sue and they won't get anywhere.

The gay marriage ban came directly from
his mouth, so I would imagine that will be something he attempts in the near future.

Let’s have some of this awesome energy for the asylum seekers milling about your country 💪

Awesome energy? You mean anger and disgust? That IS the kind of energy you do find awesome and are trying to rally isn’t it? Thats what the MAGA movement is all about.

I absolutely support the rights of people fleeing persecution to seek refuge in this country .

And having 'banned the cartels' a new market opens up for the newly released Sillk Road gangster, thanks Donny, bring on the Oxycontin and Fentanyl. But delivered by a white American. Well done.

It's sadly not deemed as malpractice because they would be breaking the law. Those poor families could sue and they won't get anywhere

They aren’t breaking the law if the pregnancy is not viable.

In one case I read, the patient was told to go home when she was clearly suffering from sepsis. Should be sued for malpractice.

Now of course there will be discussion over whether or not they could have known these pregnancies viable. But perhaps the courtroom will give these families a measure of justice—most of these concern wanted children which makes it more tricky. If you are wanting an abortion, you just go out of state, end of.

Again, I do think abortion should be legal, but I understand that Texas et al is rather firm on this matter.

As for gay marriage, I never heard this from him on the campaign trail and I don’t think it’s a priority tbh.

He has no principles. He tried to overthrow a democratic election. The fact he's anywhere near power is a source of profound shame for all humanity. Hope that helps.

You have to be pretty sick in the head, or just plain stupid to support trump. Or both.

Trump has already delivered quite a lot for us conservatives on day one. I am pretty happy and I really had tried to curb my expectations a bit.

Tory voters must be seething over what an actual conservative victory can do.

I’d welcome 10,000 asylum seekers over 1 single trump voter, any day of the week.

Here’s why I think YABU: Trump has been impeached twice—for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress in 2019, and for incitement of insurrection following the Capitol Riot, he has also pardoned those involved…

He withdrew the U.S. from key international agreements like the Paris Climate Accord, the TPP, and the Iran nuclear deal.

Domestically, he downplayed the pandemic, spread misinformation, and passed tax reforms that disproportionately benefited the wealthy.

His record also includes tax avoidance, fraud, misuse of charity funds, and multiple corporate bankruptcies.

He’s racist, has made hush money payments to silence scandals, and pressured Ukraine for political favours, contributing to his impeachment…

He’s misogynistic, limiting abortion rights, and weakening workplace protections for women…

In a nutshell.

You re happy he has released 1500 people convicted of attacking law enforcement officers & elected politicians, many of whom fled for their lives but all good with you.

I know you would. And look at the state of Great Britain, in terminal decline with no way to provide a better standard of living for your next generation.

Of course, you’ll blame America, Russia, maybe China, but you won’t look into the leftist ideology that has led you down this dark path.

Shes fine with that unless they are brown, in which case she was them immediately deported regardless of rule or law and basic human rights protections.

Well if they are illegal immigrants it goes without saying 🤷‍♀️

look at the state of Great Britain?

😂😂. Presumably it’s not that bad or you wouldn’t be here ??

I live a very comfortable life.

The things that concern me about the “state of Great Britain” are the rise of groups like Reform, neo-fascism, MRAs and anti-trans ideology. This is a dark path indeed.

More nonsense.

The Conservatives have been in power for the majority of the post war period, the last Tory Govt, in for 14 years, presided over huge decline.

No idea if you were here in 2010 but all public services are now far worse than ever before.

Yet we have more millionaires and billionaires... weird that.

I think you need to stop getting your information from Fox News. You clearly don’t know anything about British politics, if you are making that statement. 14 years of Tory rule, of Conservative rule decimated the UK in so many ways, as the Torys plundered and dismantled this country, piece by piece, whilst personally profiting from all the chaos they created in their wake. Starmar and his Labour crew, are not the best government we’ve for sure, but they absolute did not create the mess that we have in this country. It was the Tory government.

I don’t consider the Tories ‘conservative’, not in the least.

And yeah, there SHOULD be a lot more millionaires and billionaires than in 2010. It’s called a growing economy.

Who would you class as Conservatives now?

Bear in mind that Tory members and MPs who served in and were considered strong Thatcherites, have left the Tory party because of its shift to the right.

So is the economy growing or are we in a state of dark and terminal decline? 🤔🤔 very confused now

I don’t consider Tories conservative in the least, no. What the heck did they ever conserve?

They couldn’t even cut taxes or immigration. They were all for the self-ID idiocy. They allowed bio men into women’s prisons and wards. They did fuck all to secure any energy independence and never made serious progress on fracking or nuclear energy.

Honestly I see the Tories as an incompetent version of the American Democrat party.

They certainly didn't conserve our public services 🙁

Anemic growth but growth nonetheless. Honestly I don’t understand this attitude of resentment towards millionaires and billionaires. It’s a good thing to have them in your country and to have had people accumulate wealth in your country. You won’t want them to leave, that’s for sure.

Anemic growth but growth nonetheless. Honestly I don’t understand this attitude of resentment towards millionaires and billionaires. It’s a good thing to have them in your country and to have had people accumulate wealth in your country. You won’t want them to leave, that’s for sure.

It seems to be a current aim going by recent figures