Is it really that wrong to want for your country what Trump stands for?

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I know that there are plenty of threads on Trump at the moment, but most of them are designed to rubbish the guy. That’s been done to death in the last 10 years.

He has still won two presidential elections so perhaps it’s time to move the discussion on a bit.Let’s put aside Trump’s personality, bluster, and whether he will deliver or not, for a second.

Is it really so wrong and bad to want to go for what his core message is? Why is the far right label used so liberally and will we ever see a government in this country which can tackle this madness -

A stop to or huge reduction in illegal immigration

Putting your own country first ahead of internationalism. It’s not a novel idea and certainly not a byword for automatically wanting war. In fact Trump’s argument is that war is bad

Saying no the climate hysteria. Climate change is real but climate emergency seems to be a made up concept to simply tax people to death to re distribute taxes to government lobbyists. Why should people accept being poorer in the name of this dangerous ideology

Putting a stop to woke madness. When did it become ok for state sponsored mutilation of children? Men pretending to be women in prison and hospitals getting access to women’s spaces. People being sanctioned do not using the correct pronouns

Driving the economy forward and putting a stop to endless freebies for those who have no intention of contributing to the system and refuse to work because they are sad.

The fact that someone as eccentric as Trump has to fly the flag for common sense ideas shows you just how batshit the political discourse has become.

Obama did not take the USA into war with Iraq.

I totally agree with your comments and it's a pity we don't have a leader with balls. They've called Trump Mr ' break the rules' and Starmer is supposedly Mr. 'Follow the rules' more like Mr Softy. This country is going to the dogs big style. After the tragic events in Southport now Starmer is banging on about he recognises the threat from young men and social media etc. Well aren't the small boat people predominantly young men ? Landing on our shores with no identification but with designer trainers and mobile phones and if they haven't got one they get given one. What are they doing in their warm hotel rooms ? Who knows. How can we take this huge risk putting our society at risk. Come on wake up Starmer how much more of a wake up call do you need. ?

Obama inherited the Iraq and Afghanistan war but in his 8 year tenure he led air strikes or military raids in at least 7 countries: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya,Yeman,Somalia and Pakistan.

Source
Https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-pol-obama-at-war/

I'm watching the criminals who attacked the Capitol being released from prison. Pardoned. So what now? Let's have dangerous, violent, politically motivated criminals released here. Is it really that wrong to want that? What do you think?

Did you notice Biden pardoned hie entire family and others not just for crimes they may have committed but for all future crimes they may commit too minutes before his presidency ended. Theoretically any of his family or those pardoned for any future crimes could commit mass murder and could not be charged. Or is that OK because he's Biden?

Trump had continuously made statements about how he was going to retaliate against members of the 01/06 committee, Dr. Fauci, even members of Biden's family. If you had the ability to preemptively pardon your innocent family members so that they could be spared from politically-motivated malicious persecution, wouldn't you?

Starmer has already released violent criminals last summer to make room for hurty word right wingers peed off with his cover ups, albeit loads have already offended and been sent back inside.

Yes he did. He knows what Trump is. It's a pity that you and the rest of DTs supporters don't. Or perhaps you do. Which is worse, following him in ignorance of what he is or following him because you do know? Either way, it's not something to brag about.

This could be a description of the US right now!

@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross

Strip them of ALL rights? A little.... hyperbolic, wouldn't you say?

It's taking away an extra 'right' that women have that men don't - the ability to hire someone to murder their unborn child.

Nationalisim is for the simple minded. And simple minded people are who trump targets.

@RavenhairedRachel

Starmer is not soft, I see him as hard as rock, seething with hate and anger.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is real

Trump is upsetting all the right people and I’m here for it 🤪

@GutsyShark you are on an anonymous posting site, why do you need to speak very carefully??

No. Women are dying from pregnancy complications. Women are and teenagers are dying during miscarriages.

You might want to educate yourself more.

Yes in the simplest terms morally and ethically wrong.

Native Americans did not build the country you know as America. HTH.

Regarding climate change, have you seen the footage of LA burning? Spain flooding? Have you heard about states where abortion is illegal and women are dying because hospitals are too afraid to end a pregnancy which is endangering the mother's life, where a child who is a victim of rape is still meant to go through with the birth? What about encouraging his supporters to storm the Capitol to try to overturn Biden's win? 'Drill, baby, drill'! He doesn't care about anything other than maintaining his own power and taking revenge on his opponents. He is allowing TikTok's return because 'We won the youth vote!' without understanding that it was banned as a protective measure for the American people against China!
Trump's 'America First' policy is the opposite of diplomacy where countries accept that we need to help other countries even selfishly, to protect our own interests and ensure that global markets are propped up - Russia's invasion of Ukraine has affected the global food chain. The bottom line is that Trump's policies are going to have dire consequences for the world but luckily for him, he probably won't be around to reap the whirlwind he's sown! But we will!

I didn’t want it to sound like I was making excuses for Hitler.

I do think he gives people hope and that is very beguiling. We could do with some hope here in the UK too.

Hope for what?

@Newbutoldfather who are the uneducated yes men

You forgot pardoning his whole criminal family for god knows what. I guess we’ll find out soon.

Oh wait a minute…..

America has a lot more to it than man made cities. HTH.🙄