Grooming gangs being labelled as "Muslim grooming gangs"

[Olga009933]

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.
Why not just label them as "grooming gangs" or "Asian grooming gangs" (if wanting to be be specific).
Just thinking and wondering about the thousands of white British and presumably non-Muslim sex offenders who make the news. How many of them are labelled "Christian sex attacker" or "Jewish pervert" etc? Why is the religious heritage of a sex offender only mentioned why the offenders are of Muslim background?
If mentioning religion for one particular demographic then surely its only fair to mention the religious heritage of them all?

I do believe that if you live in particular communities, the repercussions for reporting against a Pakistani Muslim man will be significant compared to reporting a white perpetrator of no religion.

OP you are part of the problem why this has been covered up and ignored. Congratulations!

Absolutely true!

Why is it relevant to Islam?

There seems to be a lot of conflation of pimping gangs, which is a heinous business operation, and one with a multiplicity of purveyors including the Muslim grooming gang element, with child sexual abuse in general, which isn't helpful.

Nope they select them knowing that society will support them so it is cultural here for such things to be socially acceptable. They know they can get away with it as the focus will be on blaming the child. It is cultural whatever way you look at it.

The BBC … data is not recent enough-

Asian men are 14% of groomers, while Asians representing 9% of total population.

White men groomers are 40%, but 81% of total population

So, of those recorded: and we might conclude there is a lot of not recording “Asians” … Asians are twice as likely, or is it 4x as likely to be grooming?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65174096.amp

Look up per capita instead of swinging out of that old chestnut.

I don't think the police or anyone in authority gave a shit what colour/ethnicity the perpetrators were. I think it's bs that they are now saying they were scared to offend etc. The truth is they viewed these girls, kids, as scum deserving of whatever treatment they received and the crimes committed against them weren't viewed as crimes.

As for the perpetrators, I don't think they gave a shit about what colour the girls were. Not all victims were white most were because it's a white majority country. What these men were really after was easy access to victims, girls who weren't going to be missed if they weren't around or came home late.

Interesting question op.
What I didn't realise at the grand old age of 50 until recently was that people in the Muslim faith believe you are born Muslim?

That's a very different concept to western faith.
So when we have said in the past being a Muslim isn't a race if they believe you aren born a Muslim that puts a very different spin on things doesn't it?

Because otherwise why does it matter??

Why do you care?

These “men” chose the most vulnerable children in our society. Raped them, beat them and plied them with drugs and alcohol. Sold them for money and made their lives a living hell.

The headline is a fact. They were Muslim.

Are you fearful of repercussions for reporting the grooming?
I can recommend people who may be able to help.

Because it is in the Quran.

Nope - all sex offenders are violent dangerous men. All are a risk to the victim when reported. All will likely take measures to punish or harm the victim if they are reported. The risk to all is high when reporting. Jane's law is there on purpose to reduce this risk.

Yep! Actually disgusting isn't it.

Apart from the fact it is due to religion (choice of victim) and ethnicity (Pakistani background of the perpetrators) and racism (prioritising community relations over the safety of children)

Culturally I don't know. Perhaps these men are raised in a particular way to "other" non Muslims due to their heritage. Education is vital.

A bengali Muslim man who works in the restaurant industry - that is the horses mouth?

Seriously?

Crimes being enacted on whites?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/11/islam-converts-british-women-prejudice

This is old but states around 5000 British people convert to Islam every year and most of them are women.

This.

Probably because the UK is a predominantly white Christian country, so race will be referenced in a crime, as otherwise presumed to have been committed by white British person. I imagine if someone for example in Pakistan who had committed a crime, and was white British, the headlines would state the race of the person as being white British. That’s just the way it is…..

Not many of those interviewed in that article come from deprived areas of Rotherham. I would be interested in stats on the rate of conversion in those communities.

So again why are white men not stopped - cultural support for sex offenders prevents it.

These men are raised in a society that supports sex offenders and punishes victims. That is the UK society. Education of what? What did she do wrong kind of education that such girls get when they are victims? Victim blaming education which again supports the perpetrators?

Do give over with your patronising. Reporting grooming is always hugely difficult. I reported it and jumped up and down shouting to everybody I could. I was ignored. My child was sexually abused and raped as a result. The idea that those abused by white grooming gangs can just trot off to the authorities and it’s all dealt with tickety boo is laughable.

Are you suggesting they view a practising Asian Muslim girl to be equal to a white girl

Apart from it is accepted in certain cultures, even down to the point the woman raped gets the blame!

White men? Nope they see all females as being lesser than they are and see that no one believes them so they will harm whoever they have the opportunity to.

They do not care who their victims are. They aim to hurt.