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Grooming gangs being labelled as "Muslim grooming gangs"

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Olga009933 · 19/01/2025 17:48

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.
Why not just label them as "grooming gangs" or "Asian grooming gangs" (if wanting to be be specific).
Just thinking and wondering about the thousands of white British and presumably non-Muslim sex offenders who make the news. How many of them are labelled "Christian sex attacker" or "Jewish pervert" etc? Why is the religious heritage of a sex offender only mentioned why the offenders are of Muslim background?
If mentioning religion for one particular demographic then surely its only fair to mention the religious heritage of them all?

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TENSsion · 19/01/2025 19:25

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 19:24

So clearly you don’t.

I do.

They are not covered up by all professionals who come into contact with children because speaking about it would cost them their jobs.

andIsaid · 19/01/2025 19:27

Hoppingabout · 19/01/2025 19:12

I'm afraid I can't understand your sentence.

I can.

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 19:27

User37482 · 19/01/2025 19:24

I think when we are talking about the wholesale rape, torture and selling of children cultural sensitivities are a bit pointless to worry about. There were predominantly muslim. It’s a feature they shared in common, their victims (outside of their homes) were predominantly white children. I mean whats the point in pretending thats not true. It’s not like no-one going to notice if you just don’t say it. This kind of attitude is what also contributed to the ease with which people covered this really truly awful crime. “Don’t mention race/religion, it emboldens the far right”. No what emboldens the far right is covering up mass rapes of children in an effort to maintain community cohesion.

I understand this is uncomfortable for muslims who have nothing to do with this but it’s easy. Denounce the shit out of them.

What is the amount of muslim vs white?

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 19:28

Tittat50 · 19/01/2025 19:22

@Pin3martin I can completely understand your concerns for your child. Because we know people don't always have the facts and people will be racist and use anything to do so. I understand that must feel really uncomfortable and I'd probably feel the same knowing how stupid some people can be.

I don't see what we are saying, even my posts as racist. For me the focus is primarily on the religion. I'm comfortable saying I have a problem with religion and particularly Islam and believe that feeds into this. Maybe culture is equally intertwined. It just so happens that in this case the guys are not white. I can hand on heart say the colour of skin is irrelevant.

It’s gone beyond initial reporting. Now grooming gangs equal Muslims.Posters are utterly oblivious to the problem we have in this country from white grooming gangs, thinking white grooming gangs simply equals Epstein and the catholic church!

Tricho · 19/01/2025 19:29

Olga009933 · 19/01/2025 19:18

I'd say Pakistani rape gangs rather than Muslim this or Muslim because they are so absolute removed and distant from anything I have ever known or related to as a practising Muslim. My family and community would say the same.

I'm Catholic

The way Catholic priests and nuns acted in the very recent past and in some instances today bears no resemblance to the Catholicism I am familiar with

But it was done under the guise of and the protection of the Catholic Church and a religion that nobody dared question for fear of fallout (do you see where I'm going with this) - i still striggle to recmcile faith with today, but i cant deny Catholicism played a huge part, therefore its relevant and i domt shy away from using the word Catholic

You and your community are in denial about how pertinent the information is

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 19:29

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 19:25

I do.

They are not covered up by all professionals who come into contact with children because speaking about it would cost them their jobs.

Wow so reporting grooming, sexual abuse and rape is sooooo easy when the perpetrators are white. 🙄

CranfordScones · 19/01/2025 19:29

Because race/culture played a part in the attacks.

Many of the victims reported that their attackers used racist (anti-white) slurs against them. So, however you choose to define or label the attackers, they saw the girls as an "other" group - and that's relevant to the nature of the crimes.

Loub1987 · 19/01/2025 19:29

Well, were they Muslim? If yes, fair enough to include detail if not, obviously that’s bad.

Not including the detail or saying it shouldn’t be included is just pathetic.

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 19:29

Hoppingabout · 19/01/2025 19:18

Usually the authorities aren't scared to stop white groomimg gangs for fear of being accused of racisim

So why do they ignore them and support the groomers and blame the child? The authorities are afraid of admitting the scale of the white groomers.

Why is it only level 2 on the safeguarding scale - meaning punishing the child and telling her what she did wrong why is it not police action immediately?

If they stopped white grooming gangs then we would have to admit the scale of the problem but they do not.

Hoppingabout · 19/01/2025 19:30

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 19:28

It’s gone beyond initial reporting. Now grooming gangs equal Muslims.Posters are utterly oblivious to the problem we have in this country from white grooming gangs, thinking white grooming gangs simply equals Epstein and the catholic church!

The authorities are not fearful of stopping those perpetrators for fear of destabilising "community relations"

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 19:31

Hoppingabout · 19/01/2025 19:30

The authorities are not fearful of stopping those perpetrators for fear of destabilising "community relations"

So why do they not stop them then?

Tittat50 · 19/01/2025 19:32

@Pin3martin I can believe there are depraved abuses going on under every nook and cranny. I really do believe that. I don't walk around thinking every white man = good (religious or not). The reason for my investment in this is alot to do with the religion I have to be honest.

Hoppingabout · 19/01/2025 19:32

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 19:29

So why do they ignore them and support the groomers and blame the child? The authorities are afraid of admitting the scale of the white groomers.

Why is it only level 2 on the safeguarding scale - meaning punishing the child and telling her what she did wrong why is it not police action immediately?

If they stopped white grooming gangs then we would have to admit the scale of the problem but they do not.

White grooming gangs do not select a victim on the basis of their religion. It is an aggravating factor in their crime.

The authorities do not let the.get away with it for fear of being called racist.

Other than that, paedophilia exists everywhere agreed. We all know this.

Merida46 · 19/01/2025 19:33

The difference is that the pakistani muslim community will not expose these pakistani muslim rape gangs because they regard their religion as being more important than the safety of white girls. There has been a HUGE cover up by muslim dominated councils and the police all in the name of diversity and multiculturalism. Multiculturalism does not work as can be seen in towns like Bradford and Luton where there are no go areas for white people.

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 19:33

Hoppingabout · 19/01/2025 19:30

The authorities are not fearful of stopping those perpetrators for fear of destabilising "community relations"

So why is 83% of sexual abuse by white perpetrators and 70% of grooming gangs are white?

Kulwinder54 · 19/01/2025 19:34

They are Muslim men and they intentionally went out to seek non Muslim girls. They started with Hindu and Sikh girls in late 80s and 90s, and, when those groups fought back, went after vulnerable English girls.

andIsaid · 19/01/2025 19:34

Olga009933 · 19/01/2025 19:18

I'd say Pakistani rape gangs rather than Muslim this or Muslim because they are so absolute removed and distant from anything I have ever known or related to as a practising Muslim. My family and community would say the same.

My family and community would say the same.

But the victims would the other.

The victims know that the men being Muslim was part of the reason they were destroyed at the age of 10 and 11.

For Gods sake, where is your humanity.

These girls lost everything.

Let them at least have the right to their own story of who took it and why.

samarrange · 19/01/2025 19:34

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 18:57

83% of sexual abuse is by white perpetrators, 70% of grooming gangs are white. Where is the reporting of white grooming gangs?

I pointed this fact out to a friend who has Islamophobic tendencies and he tried to tell me that the specific type of grooming done by specifically Muslim groups was particularly heinous because reasons.

I also find it strange that every court case which successfully prosecutes these men is pointed to as evidence that the police are covering it up. 🤔

Hoppingabout · 19/01/2025 19:34

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 19:33

So why is 83% of sexual abuse by white perpetrators and 70% of grooming gangs are white?

Because this is a white majority country.

smalllight · 19/01/2025 19:34

Twiney2 · 19/01/2025 18:49

The majority of white paedophile rape gangs are of white heritage. 🙄

Wonder why their religion is not mentioned?

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It would be if it were relevant to their crimes, and indeed had been in scandals in churches.

JayJayEl · 19/01/2025 19:34

I'm gobsmacked by how many people think that Pakistani and Muslim are one and the same??

I'm also gobsmacked that people are still saying that the Muslim community need to denounce the offenders. Of course the average Muslim fucking denounces those vile men!! Where is everyone calling for the Catholic community to denounce the actions of some bad Catholic priests? Nowhere, because Catholics are usually white, and we live in an Islamophobic society.

The cultural background of those monsters is absolutely an important factor in their crimes. But those of the same culture do not need to be shouting from the rooftops that they condone their behaviour, because the vase majority of people from the same culture are not vile rapist apologisers, and should not be taking accountability for the bad men.

Pin3martin · 19/01/2025 19:34

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 19:29

So why do they ignore them and support the groomers and blame the child? The authorities are afraid of admitting the scale of the white groomers.

Why is it only level 2 on the safeguarding scale - meaning punishing the child and telling her what she did wrong why is it not police action immediately?

If they stopped white grooming gangs then we would have to admit the scale of the problem but they do not.

This!

Womansplainer · 19/01/2025 19:35

Twiney2 · 19/01/2025 19:09

Which horses mouth said that?

You can find people who will say anything. It is not hard, neither is it new.

Btw, jihad means the spiritual struggle oneself against sin. So it makes no sense to say rape of white girls is jihad.

A Bengali Muslim man who was involved in the restaurant industry He was involved with trafficking people into the country from Bangladesh into the restaurant trade.

There are lots of different communities co-existing together with the comment thread being Islam. generally 1st of second generation migrants who operate within their own caste hierarchy. There is also slavery and exploitation within the community as well as enacted on whites who there is sometimes a hatred for. (Somewhat understandably given colonialism). It's complex.
Responses like yours make it very difficult for me to share my experiences of my brief time of being inside this world.

I would love to speak to a journalist about my experiences. If nothing else to get them off my chest.

amber763 · 19/01/2025 19:35

No one is saying that there are not white men doing terrible things but the difference is the authorities don't try to cover those up because "racism". The gangs in question are- Muslim rape/grooming gangs so I have no problem with them being called that.

HRTQueen · 19/01/2025 19:35

Hoppingabout · 19/01/2025 19:30

The authorities are not fearful of stopping those perpetrators for fear of destabilising "community relations"

Agree Hoppingabout

it’s utterly shameful and so many women and young girls are suffering as a result

it’s not the first time how many young girls suffered FGM for the same principles 🙄

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