Grooming gangs being labelled as "Muslim grooming gangs"

[Olga009933]

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.
Why not just label them as "grooming gangs" or "Asian grooming gangs" (if wanting to be be specific).
Just thinking and wondering about the thousands of white British and presumably non-Muslim sex offenders who make the news. How many of them are labelled "Christian sex attacker" or "Jewish pervert" etc? Why is the religious heritage of a sex offender only mentioned why the offenders are of Muslim background?
If mentioning religion for one particular demographic then surely its only fair to mention the religious heritage of them all?

Religion of these men should be stated because they target particular girls and need to be called out we cannot be scared of them and we cannot bubble wrap problems . The Catholic Church priests and nuns in Ireland for example are always called out and their religion is always mentioned . Asian is too general and that groups non Muslim Asian men in this category . Muslim men can be off any colour , creed from Europe or Asia or Africa . Let’s face it Muslim gangs exist and are a menace to vulnerable white girls in particular.

Personally I don't buy the narrative that it was covered up for fear of being called racist. Its a convenient excuse, but I think it was probably more than that. If it hadn't been covered up, I doubt we'd even be having arguments about racism over it now. Covering it up if anything, has helped to fuel tensions.

Probably a range of causes but fear of accusations of racism definitely played a part.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/28/braverman-ethnicity-child-grooming-gangs-false-mail-on-sunday

Anyone living their life in strict accordance with any of these works of fiction should be put into institutions imo. They are obviously quite mad.

But lets be totally honest, supporters of any religion only pick and choose which pieces they want to adhere to. Would those community leaders agree to punishments of men in line with the total teachings of that faith. Look at some of the stuff in the old testament as well as other religiouns nonsense.

But that’s not a gang

Their agenda is based on their religion. They believe women who do not wear the hijab are "asking to be raped" and they only target non-muslim white girls.

If mentioned it should be across the board.

Looking at victims of sexual abuse it's massively young white non religious poor vulnerable girls....but that's probably because

1. There's a lot of them.
2. Criminals target what they perceive as the easiest victims....whether that's rape of a young latchkey girl (Fred West targeted as an eg) or mugging a pensioner. It's sick and deplorable but criminals tend to be.

Also politicians can't block police investigations unless the police themselves have a spineless head. So I get what the OP says but can't see it changing...let's face it people who read the sun probably still think Freddy Star ate someone's hamster so if they can print that you can't expect a lot....a lot of abhorrent criminal acts don't make it in national news, yet others are repeated a dozen times... it's basically what sells.....or rage bait.

Stays by religion in Pakistan,

appreciate religion znd country may be mixed, but understandable assumption given figure below. Sorry :(

Muslims make up 96.4% of Pakistan's population, down from 96.5% in 2017. Christians make up 1.4% of the population in 2023, and Hindus 1.6%, as opposed to 1.3% and 1.7% respectively in 2017.26 Nov 2024"

I’m not sure you have read any history of this issue. Your ‘questioning’ and implied reluctance to state a fact is indicative of the behavior that stopped so much of this horrific abuse being called out in the first place.

They are supposed to be a cut above others. To my knowledge they're a bunch of perves. Just look at the Tories

@Feelingathomenow

Shocking

There has been no reformation in Islam

Well it will certainly offer a point of view but not sure it’s a very balanced one.

Yes most.

Which is based on misogyny and applies to all rapists. All rapists think this about women. They do not respect women and want to harm them.

Also it wasn't just white girls targeted by these gangs.

The logic here is ridiculous. If that's so, as OP has pointed out elsewhere in the thread, then there would be Sudanese Muslim grooming gangs, Yemeni Muslim gangs, Indonesian Muslim gangs.

You do locally but not nationally, there are many localised incidents of exploitation of both girls and boys, most of them very vulnerable. Unfortunately whilst many people in the UK have a developed sense of injustice, some Muslim men and women do not see anyone outside of their strict religious beliefs as an equal in their eyes. We are known as kaffir which translates as anything from deniers to unclean, generally not a nice way to refer to anyone, but that's their choice. This coupled with the fact that some Muslim men see no problem with taking an 8 year old wife according to their religious teachings forms the basis of the problem. So very young people who are not muslim and not looked after properly are the easest pray given there is little value placed on these young white boys/girls in the first place. Not all Muslim men are like this but I think refering to them as Muslim grooming gangs probably differentiates from other religions. Bear in mind, their behaviour may be acceptable in their country of origin in some form. The reason its out of control in our country is basically because many people with political careers fear being labelled as racist.

You live in a racist delusion. Hope that helps 😊

Signed, a Muslim who reads the AIBU page just to be "inspired" by all the incredible examples of British men treating women as equals, with respect, definitely never abusive or patriarchal or all the things you consider the exclusive domain of Muslim men

My point exactly! Islam transcends race, national origins or ethnic. A Muslim can literally be of any colour or ethnicity. From the white of white in Bosnia to black Sudanese. Or Indonesian. Maybe even Pakistani. To look at a person physically there is no way of seeing a Muslim unless the "Muslim" is displaying outward signs. Maybe by wearing a hijab or a man wearing a kufi (prayer cap similar to the Jewish style kippah). To racially identify someone as Muslim is ridiculous.

@Dickhead23000

Yes I think you make a valid point

Jesus wanted people to love thy neighbour not treat them badly because they are a different religion

Hi,
I worked in professions that were involved in this. It absolutely was covered up for fear of being called racist.

And how many of those women are too scared to go to the authorities because their own families will kill them for reporting their abuse?

If a Muslim woman is not permitted to leave her home without the supervision or permission of her husband, we accept it as part of the culture.

If a non-Muslim woman is not permitted to leave her home without the supervision or permission of her husband, we are appalled by the fact she is in an abusive relationship.

Muslim women need better support, not for their treatment to normalised.

I worked as a children’s solicitor for over 35 years and often represented girls involved in grooming gangs, from the ones portrayed in the media to the ones run by churches, temples and mosques. The gang leaders I know about have , over the years, included Yardie ,Triad, Pakistani, Serbian, Albanian and Romanian men . But the vast majority of the gang, leaders and followers alike , in all that time , have been white, British men. The common denominator, though , has been their sex. Every one of them was male. Nowt to do with religion , colour or creed!

Because the gangs are racially motivated - they are a group of Muslim organised gang members ONLY targeting white underprivileged girls. If it were the other way round half the cities of the UK would have been burnt, looted and smashed to pieces within days. Years and years after this emerged the victims can’t even get a national inquiry into how to stop it now. Let alone how to protect girls in the future.

This ten times over