Grooming gangs being labelled as "Muslim grooming gangs"

[Olga009933]

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.
Why not just label them as "grooming gangs" or "Asian grooming gangs" (if wanting to be be specific).
Just thinking and wondering about the thousands of white British and presumably non-Muslim sex offenders who make the news. How many of them are labelled "Christian sex attacker" or "Jewish pervert" etc? Why is the religious heritage of a sex offender only mentioned why the offenders are of Muslim background?
If mentioning religion for one particular demographic then surely its only fair to mention the religious heritage of them all?

No, the journalist used the NPCC figures to calculate their own figures. They aren’t fabrications so much as a manipulation of statistics in an unethical fashion.

It is not.

A very good point. I'm confident if you were to look at those under 40 who attend a place of worship regularly. White British would be under represented.

When you're a Catholic PRIEST, you've committed to the Catholic religion and have full knowledge of said religion. It's not the same as someone FROM a Muslim country with a Muslim name - it does not mean you represent the religion or have knowledge of it's teachings. That is the point of the original poster.

YABU. They are reporting them as this, because this is what they are!

Because they are mainly Muslims that at doing it, lucky it's even in the media, they seem to hide everything else that's associated with any race other than white.

Yes - absolutely.
And if a religion has a section of the community who behave badly then they needs to take a good hard look at what needs to be done to improve things.
As we had to do in the Catholic Church. And continue to do.

This. ^

No it does not, not at all. This just highlights your lack of knowledge of Islam

It isn't what white men with a strong Christian faith do, though, is it? Yes, there are child-abusing priests, but mostly they act alone.

I think you have.

Child abuse happens all the time everywhere perpetrated by all types of people. No one is ignoring or disputing that.

There are abusers from all religions and ethnicities.

In the particular case relevant to this thread we are talking about the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. Not "child abuse" in general. The reason it is different is due to the scale and the aggravating factors.

The men were Muslim and chose non Muslim victims. These victims were not all white but were chosen as they, as non Muslims, were considered "dirty" and easy meat. That is the religious element.

The men were mostly also from Pakistan. The reason this is important is that, if the rape gangs were Pakistani, over many years the police and authorities did not stop them for fear of being called racist.and disrupting "community relations". This approach does not usually happen on such a wide and institutional scale if the perpetrators are white, Christian, Catholic or whatever other example used in this thread. Generally the police and authorities would not fear "community relations " would be damaged if such perpetrators were stopped.

The rapes and torture happened to thousands of British children over decades in every city in the UK. It is still going on. It is the biggest crime in UK history.

Some very peculiar posters on this thread seem to be excusing the men, denying the factors that contributed to the crimes, denying the religious element and seeking to muddy the waters as to the very specific facts in this case by saying "what about child abuse in general? What about the Catholics? What about the misogyny of the police?".and so on.

This creates an impression that some people will not accept what has happened. It appears from this thread for example that this may be due to an unwillingness to admit that a Muslim could behave in this way.

Unfortunately that sort of approach is going to only create a vacuum where real racists can step in and fan the flames. I am quite suspicious of some of the posts on here trying to deny or excuse who is responsible for the rapes rather than look openly and honestly at what has happened and how we can prevent it happening again and the victims get justice which would take the heat out of things. If I were the actual racist far right that's exactly the approach I would take to stir up hatred; pretend to defend the indefensible and watch what other people do about it. It's scary.

The religion becomes relevant when the girls targeted are not considered “pure”

White child sex offences aren't being covered up?

Erm...the church? Saville?

You really need to go back through your posts. These figures are lifted directly from the supplied NPCC data. But as you did also say, there seems to be far too much throwing data around by removing or not including pertinent facts.

I'm still confident if the ethnicity of all who took part in organised group sexual abuse was collected. Muslim would show as a much higher proportion per capita.

I honestly don’t know anymore.

Anecdotal yes, but my own experiences of living where these gangs operate tell a truly different story.

I mean the verbal abuse, the often sometimes physical abuse is seriously epidemic. Its not a cat call or “nice arse” comment from a stereotypical white man - which isn’t ok btw - it’s not been able to walk down the street alone, without a car pulling up on the pavement and asking for sex to move past. Or trying physically grab you into cars. Stalking, exposing their penises, grabbing you, it would happen to me MULTIPLE times a week coming home from my job. Less than 500 yards from the police station. All of them asain men who undoubtedly came from Muslim families (the demographic of the areas would say there Muslim)

This is definitely true of cities

All of this. And being spat on.

Is this really true?

And this thread proves how this sick bastards were able to do what they did and get away with it so long.

How many apologists on here. Lots. Fact

They were Muslim and targeted white children. Fact.
They were not investigated because they were Muslim. Fact.
People didn't do their jobs because they were Muslim. Fact.
People turned a blind eye because they were Muslim. Fact.

Certain parts of the Muslim faith consider non Muslims as non human. Like Hitler consider Slavic people. Like king Leopold of Belgium considered black people in the Congo. Like the USA government considered native Americans in 1880.

Fact

Any suggestion to hide who these people were is collusive.

@Daraaxel124

Didn't that come out during isis rule of terror when they took the yadzi women?
It was explored at that time and other matters of this kind.

My best friend moved to Bradford for work, within a week she was flashed by- get this- an actual boy in a school uniform (I’m presuming 15/16) at 7am getting in to her car. She thought he was going to rape her.
we know these men and boys have no respect for white girls. We know they are taught they are superior.
they do not even respect their own women and wives. Isn’t it funny how Muslim women have to dress ‘modestly’ sometimes in full coverage- even their 4/5 year old daughters- yet explain to me how the men next to them are dressed in always in a ‘Western’ way with the latest trainers etc?
seems off, no?

The point of the OP is that being Muslim wasn't why they did it! Before you mention "targeted non-Muslims" - they sadly targeted vulnerable girls who happen to be white. Most rapists target the vulnerable.
You don't hear about Jewish Epstein and Weinstein Rapists because being Jewish is not relevant.

The girls were seen by these men as ‘lesser’

Louder louder louder 👏🏻