Grooming gangs being labelled as "Muslim grooming gangs"

[Olga009933]

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.
Why not just label them as "grooming gangs" or "Asian grooming gangs" (if wanting to be be specific).
Just thinking and wondering about the thousands of white British and presumably non-Muslim sex offenders who make the news. How many of them are labelled "Christian sex attacker" or "Jewish pervert" etc? Why is the religious heritage of a sex offender only mentioned why the offenders are of Muslim background?
If mentioning religion for one particular demographic then surely its only fair to mention the religious heritage of them all?

I'm just watching a podcast of this now. I hadn't heard of him before. I'm guessing he's no longer a community leader!

No what has been said is that there is insufficient data to state whether this is true. The reasons behind the gap left by this missing data also need investigation

Muslim is being used because these men were Muslim. These ‘brown men’ weren’t Hindus or Sikhs, were they? THEY WERE MUSLIMS!!!!!!

As of 2020, there was no legal definition of grooming gang, so how could any of the data purporting to “grooming gangs” be in anyway accurate?

Aren't the figures from an NSPCC report not journalism? Unless you can categorically say it only removed white abusers, you are being disingenuous.

Good point. The report from the NSPCC being used above, I'm sure states that only 30-40% of ethnicity was actually recorded.

Yes, CSE is a seperate sexual offence recorded in the police data and involves organised networks of two or more adults working together to exploit children.

You don’t seem to know much about the specific ways in which the Pakistani grooming gangs operated.
Ethnicity and religion are relevant because of the attitudes the perpetrators had about girls who were not of their religion or ethnicity. Girls were targeted and abused because they were vulnerable but also because of their ethnicity .

No. It can be an individual or a group. It says so on the screen shot I posted from a government document.

The original figures are from the NSPCC. The bonus figures generated by excluding a long list of institutions known to be majority white, were not from the NSPCC.

https://news.npcc.police.uk/releases/vkpp-launch-national-analysis-of-police-recorded-child-sexual-abuse-and-exploitation-csae-crimes-report-2022

"Group-based CSAE accounts for 5% of all identified and reported CSAE ranging from unorganised peer group sharing of imagery, to more organised complex high harm cases with high community impact."

I think it could and should be broken down further into more specific types of crimes, I'd think the sharing of imagery would be the more prevalent crime in this category compared to grooming/rape gangs we're discussing. It would be interesting to know the statistics for a clearer picture. The information may exist but I can't seem to find it.

Sorry I missed that line. Actually there is a large presence of the black community in active church goers in the UK these days. It would be interesting to see the definition of “church” in this context

Because they are gangs of Muslim men. It’s not always men from 1 culture but it is a gang of men from 1 religious group.

Not the grooming gangs subset.

It’s also not a separate criminal offence.

Recorded by whom?

That’s not what it says. It says there is no official definition in use by the media.

You're right OP but people won't get it

Just for info - Catholic churches in urban areas are not “mostly white groups “
There are large number of black/ Asian/ Hispanic/Filipino Catholics in urban parishes .
You are quite wrong in some of the race assumptions you are making .

It appalls me how few headlines say “male” or ”men” in them. Because it’s always men.

The police.

Just looked back. I was wrong, the figures came from the police NPCC not NSPCC. But the figures are theirs and not a fabrication of the press.

But if it was a gang of white men who had a strong Christian faith, it probably would have Christian in the title.

Just like if there was one Muslim sex offender, the headline wouldn't be Muslim man rapes girl.

The fact it's a group of men, who share a religion, it is a relevant fact to at least be mentioned

I haven’t assumed majority race in “urban areas”
You are quite wrong to extrapolate.

There is no legal definition of grooming gang. Which means it cannot be recorded.