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Grooming gangs being labelled as "Muslim grooming gangs"

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Olga009933 · 19/01/2025 17:48

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.
Why not just label them as "grooming gangs" or "Asian grooming gangs" (if wanting to be be specific).
Just thinking and wondering about the thousands of white British and presumably non-Muslim sex offenders who make the news. How many of them are labelled "Christian sex attacker" or "Jewish pervert" etc? Why is the religious heritage of a sex offender only mentioned why the offenders are of Muslim background?
If mentioning religion for one particular demographic then surely its only fair to mention the religious heritage of them all?

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SomethingSScintillating · 19/01/2025 21:07

@ARealitycheck I agree with that.

I don't think it's fair to call out the women because their power is far less but there is very little stopping the other men calling it out

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2025 21:07

There is FGM in the U.K.
At least 100,000 girls are living with FGM done to them in the U.K.

The highest rates of prevalence for women and girls affected by FGM were found in London the region, with Southwark having the highest prevalence rate of 47.4 per 1,000.

Prevalence doesn’t equate to legal.

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:08

Tittat50 · 19/01/2025 20:52

That's not what I'm saying. That is what you have deduced from my post.

I worked with the Police as a civilian and yes I agree entirely that being a victim of a sex crime isn't necessarily treated with the seriousness, attention and search for justice it deserves where there are white non religious perpetrators.

So you'll be aware of how they threaten the victims no matter the perpetrators then. Glad we both know that.

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:08

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2025 21:07

There is FGM in the U.K.
At least 100,000 girls are living with FGM done to them in the U.K.

The highest rates of prevalence for women and girls affected by FGM were found in London the region, with Southwark having the highest prevalence rate of 47.4 per 1,000.

Prevalence doesn’t equate to legal.

It’s illegal in the UK.

It’s legal in Kuwait, Qatar and Malaysia.

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:09

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 20:50

By your own family?

Struggling to read?

Tittat50 · 19/01/2025 21:10

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:08

So you'll be aware of how they threaten the victims no matter the perpetrators then. Glad we both know that.

Yes rapists threaten victims and anyone who is a rapist is terrifying. You're sidetracking the point quite alot here.

ShirkingFromHome95 · 19/01/2025 21:10

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.

It's usually the opposite from what I've seen. Following the 1200 sexual assaults by 'dark skinned' men on that NYE in Germany, the press were initially forbidden from mentioning ethnicity for fear of invoking anger around the immigration debate.

Similar fears stopped the police from acting in the Rotherham case and in many of the other mass scale sexual assaults by asylum seekers in Europe - in many cases they claimed that the events transpired without much trouble but then had to do an about turn when the evidence started coming out on social media.

A lot of people are terrified of being seen as 'intolerant/xenophobic' and I often feel like this is what makes the far right even more vocal - i.e. the perception that people are too afraid to speak up.

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:10

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:09

Struggling to read?

Struggling to get a straight answer.

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:11

Tittat50 · 19/01/2025 21:10

Yes rapists threaten victims and anyone who is a rapist is terrifying. You're sidetracking the point quite alot here.

I said police.

Twiney2 · 19/01/2025 21:12

Dickhead23000 · 19/01/2025 20:58

They usually convert because of a man! Most don’t understand all the religion entails, or the status of women in Islam. That’s evident when you listen to their ‘testimonies’ it’s a foolish argument to state “if it’s so bad why do people join it”, you didn’t think that argument through. Instead read the doctrines, the Quran and especially the hadiths, that is where you will learn the truth about Islam, not from a few brainwashed ignorant women on YouTube, neither by any statistic of conversions to Islam.

They actually don't! Look deep enough into the case studies and the research. I have worked with an organisation that provides support to British white women who come into the faith.

I didn't watch the few brainwashed women on YouTube.

I read the doctrines, Quran and hadith thank you.

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:12

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:11

I said police.

What did the police threaten you with?

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2025 21:12

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:06

You’ve quoted some professional’s opinions there. Both who tried to down play the fact the ethnicity of the perpetrators these crimes were integral to them being able to continue to rape and torture young girls for decades upon decades. Which, is at least consistent.

How about the actual victims? Try starting with Sammy Woodhouse.

What you call fact is fiction. Other gangs go just as long, if not longer, getting away with child grooming and rape.

Jingleballs2 · 19/01/2025 21:12

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 20:45

All of them? Even the ones who have endured FGM and forced marriage?

Yeah but they're rich so never mind about those little details 😂

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:12

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:10

Struggling to get a straight answer.

Nope I gave you one. You ignored it. I said I hadn't told my family you then asked if the threat had come from my family. Make it make sense.

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:12

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2025 21:12

What you call fact is fiction. Other gangs go just as long, if not longer, getting away with child grooming and rape.

Pardon me?
What “facts” are fiction?

mommatoone · 19/01/2025 21:12

Raja Miah MBE tells you all you need to know about this subject. And, yes he's Muslim. He has campaigned for years about Pakistani grooming gangs.

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:13

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:12

Nope I gave you one. You ignored it. I said I hadn't told my family you then asked if the threat had come from my family. Make it make sense.

Did your family threaten to kill you because you reported the abuse?

ShirkingFromHome95 · 19/01/2025 21:13

Another factor is that Islamic countries tend to be among the worst in regards to woman rights (Iran, Afghanistan, etc) and it's often suggested that a large factor in young Muslim men being over represented in sex crimes is their disrespect for women, especially western women who they see as promiscuous.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2025 21:13

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:08

It’s illegal in the UK.

It’s legal in Kuwait, Qatar and Malaysia.

You haven’t posted any proof it is legal there. All you posted was a map of prevalence.

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:13

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:12

What did the police threaten you with?

To arrest me for reporting

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:14

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:13

Did your family threaten to kill you because you reported the abuse?

I have not told them - 3rd time now!

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2025 21:14

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:12

Pardon me?
What “facts” are fiction?

”the ethnicity of the perpetrators these crimes were integral to them being able to continue to rape and torture young girls for decades upon decades.”

Not a fact.

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:14

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 19/01/2025 21:13

You haven’t posted any proof it is legal there. All you posted was a map of prevalence.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation_laws_by_country

suburburban · 19/01/2025 21:15

UndermyShoeJoe · 19/01/2025 18:12

I know it’s one of this oh so you heard. But it’s been well known since I was at secondary school. Many Muslim boys saw white girls as for fun and sex while they wanted a pure Muslim girl for marriage. White girls seen and who* to use. Muslim girls where not allowed sex before marriage as it brought shame but a Muslim boy and a white girl no problem because it doesn’t count.

I thought Muslim young men were also supposedly devout and also meant to be chaste

TENSsion · 19/01/2025 21:15

whippy1981 · 19/01/2025 21:14

I have not told them - 3rd time now!

So why would you reply to my post about Muslim women being killed by THEIR OWN FAMILY for reporting abuse as evidence that it happens in white British culture too?

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