Grooming gangs being labelled as "Muslim grooming gangs"

[Olga009933]

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.
Why not just label them as "grooming gangs" or "Asian grooming gangs" (if wanting to be be specific).
Just thinking and wondering about the thousands of white British and presumably non-Muslim sex offenders who make the news. How many of them are labelled "Christian sex attacker" or "Jewish pervert" etc? Why is the religious heritage of a sex offender only mentioned why the offenders are of Muslim background?
If mentioning religion for one particular demographic then surely its only fair to mention the religious heritage of them all?

The police didn't care because they are equally misogininstic. There are plenty of accusations against greater Manchester police.

https://news.sky.com/story/stripped-and-left-topless-in-a-cell-i-was-drugged-and-sexually-assaulted-by-greater-manchester-police-12924141

Rape victims in the UK would not be threatened with jail for having premarital sex. Maids are not treated like human slaves. Woman are not subjected to FGM. Children aren’t married off to men old enough to be their grandfather.

DV is rife in certain Islamic countries. My friend was strangled by her Muslim husband and the police just laughed at her when it was reported.

There are many wonderful, kind hearted Muslims and some of my dearest friends are Muslim. However there is no hiding that there is deep rooted misogyny in many Islamic countries.

Agreed. There will be justice for all victims even if it is not in this life.

That may not be "hatred" in your mind, but it is downright ignorant. Have you ever even know a Muslim? Have you lived and worked in Muslim communities? Have you ever had an actual conversation with a Muslim?
As a white woman who spent years living and working in a (predominantly) Muslim community all I can say is that true Muslims are good, kind, caring, generous people. In the same way good Christians are.

Because they are Muslim grooming gangs, because it springs from their prophet Mohammed and his actions, and is an acceptable form of jihad to have sex with “what your right hand possesses”,(women captured) as well as to have sex with underage girls (as exemplified by Mohammed who married a 9 year old). These gangs are made up of Muslim men, following the example of their prophet which is evidenced by the Hadith’s, so it is an accurate description to state that they are a Muslim gang (being all Muslim), and also to state their religion because their prophet led by example.

I can’t think of a valid comparison country with similar policing, reporting, judiciary & recording. Please provide detail to educate me.

@Twiney2 yes in a multitude of ways but I think whilst communities are a great thing, and a benefit in so many ways eg children, elderly people etc helping each other out... They do also mean if you want to do your own thing and the community means you cannot then it becomes negative.

In the old days you had massive catholic clan families and it was tribal. Many things were hrieed

But those are different ‘gangs’. Like we called out Catholic, Saville abuse, we should be calling out the abuse in Rotherham etc.

The other gangs in your article, should be investigated and demographics ‘called out’ as required but we should not ignore the victims subject to the abuse in the topic on this thread. Failing to do so will prevent justice and the authorities working to stop these crimes from happening again

Sorry I’m not sure what direct relevance this has to rape gangs. We are all painfully aware of misogyny in society and in the police force but that is not the topic of the thread. Maybe start a new thread of you want to discuss police misogyny in the uk?

I'm becoming slightly suspicious of your posts now. I would suggest your approach could be counter-productive in that your clear refusal to countenance the reality of the situation could only benefit people like Tommy Robinson and people who wish to stir up hate.

Last I checked, it was 2025 … when were these massive Catholic tribes roaming UK?

Likely because we're an increasingly secular country and the majority of the white men don't belong to any religious group?

Or because the white men of any religion committing these crimes is proportionate to the rest of the population so no trend is identified other than men are more likely to commit these crimes than women? A statistic that's attracted much media attention in recent years too.

You're being deliberately obtuse now.

Also, I would bet most white grooming gangs don't have any religion anyway.

The fact the journalist refers to any dissenting voices as far right is enough for me to just think this journalist is another wet lettuce with his head up his arse.

Saying that ethnicity should be left out is misleading. I agree the colour of skin is not relevant. The cultural and religious values however are. And treatment by Police was also informed by this.

I'd like to read his reports on the white rape/ grooming gangs! I am interesting in this. No one here wants to ignite any stories like this. Did he actually collate an article on these gangs?

Qatar, Kuwait, Malaysia???

Nope.

But the low percentage is due to the fact that there are obviously far more white people in the UK, so clearly the 3-4% is proportionately a lot higher representation as there are far fewer Pakistani men. Its also linked to Pakistani men having a very low opinion of women in general. They even treat their own wives as second class citizens. A lot aren't allowed to work, can't wear what they want, are'nt allowed to worship in the mosques alongside their husband's. Have to walk behind their husband's, can't marry who they want. Not all, but a majority certainly. This dis-respect of women needs to be addressed in their communities and not hidden behind the labels of culture or religion. That's at the root of it all.

Ah yes, those countries famously known for democracy and high levels of personal freedom
for women and minorities.

Have you not read anything when it comes to this subject?. You are right though, they shouldnt have been labelled as 'Muslim ' gangs. This has now been corrected and are now referred to as 'Pakistani grooming gangs',which is what they are. Although I don't expect this is where you were heading with this thread. I live in an area where this happened (and still is). Gangs of Pakistani men picking up young girls. I have had to sit my teenage daughter down and explain the dangers of 'these 'men and told her what to do if she finds herself in this situation. Yes Sick of people getting on the fuckin bandwagon of 'oh let's not offend ' blah blah. Let's start protecting our kids.

My point is the problem is with men from all ethnicities, religions, ages and status. It is a male problem and focusing the problem of a specific religion detracts from the overall issue.

If we have a society where even the police can rape women and cover it up then we really have failed haven't we.

I don’t know if you are being purposefully ignorant here. Its because some of the convicted men’s own defence they use their interpretation of their religion as a reason to do it.

We are talking about thousands of girls involved here, it’s systematic and they see these girls as lesser than because of their religious beliefs.

@Banyon I don't understand your point.

It’s relevant because the race and religion(or lack of) the perpetrators and victims is central to the crime.

Clearly you’ve never been called a ‘white whore’ or doused with freezing cold water just for being a white female child in a northern town.

Three counties where FGM is legal? 🤔Think that says it all.

Yes every single one.