Grooming gangs being labelled as "Muslim grooming gangs"

[Olga009933]

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.
Why not just label them as "grooming gangs" or "Asian grooming gangs" (if wanting to be be specific).
Just thinking and wondering about the thousands of white British and presumably non-Muslim sex offenders who make the news. How many of them are labelled "Christian sex attacker" or "Jewish pervert" etc? Why is the religious heritage of a sex offender only mentioned why the offenders are of Muslim background?
If mentioning religion for one particular demographic then surely its only fair to mention the religious heritage of them all?

Can I ask how you feel so confident coming to this conclusion when there was a full enquiry (The Jay Report) into how it happened in Rotherham and it was found, unquestionably, to be because people feared for their jobs if they pursued the perpetrators due to their ethnicity and religion?

Clue, it wasn't by repeating mealy mouthed mantras like , 'most cse is committed by non-priests'.

The victims want it blown open. They don’t want to pander to the exact discourse that made it impossible to talk about while it was happening.

What do you suggest the UK does.instead? Brushes it under the carpet and ignore it? That's what caused the problem in the first place and will only lead to support for Tommy Robinson. We need to be open and seek the truth without fear or favour.

Do you think the Catholics got in a twist about media using the word Catholic? Would the comments here be same but just swap the religion?

No, because there are different rules. It’s OK to be criticizing and saying out loud it’s Catholics, but not same for Muslims... the issue in a nutshell.

Using even the lowest figures in that report it shows conviction of those guilty of group sex offences with Pakistani origin at 3.9%. With the population of the UK identifying as of the above at 2.7%, It suggests around a third higher rate per capita.

With it being a crime with a previously low conviction rate which wil hopefully now change, due to a movement of believing these damaged girls. It will likely end up a dramatically higer per capita rate of offence among Pakistani men.

This is all before you start throwing muslim men from other backgrounds including those identifying as British, Albanian and Somali into the counting.

You do realise that Pakistani Muslim males are 4× as likely to be a perpetrator of child rape /grooming in gangs

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/10/pakistanis-four-times-more-likely-grooming/

Yes it was, but I think you probably know this due to the media coverage and how the Catholic Church responded.

These crimes were committed by Muslim men. That is a factual statement and the truth should never be hidden.

Yes, something I had learnt recently. Certainly muddies the waters.

Do women in the UK have as much freedom as men?

The abuse figures in the UK are pretty shocking:

refuge.org.uk/what-is-domestic-abuse/the-facts/

How do think domestic abuse is recorded in Islamic cultures?
How often do you hear of women un the uk being killed by her own father and brother because she reported her husband beating the living shit out of her?

The answer is no women do not have as much freedom as men in Islamic cultures. Statement of the obvious and we shouldn't pretend. It's a betrayal of people like the women in Iran and Afghanistan.

I want to be clear on my own position.

I aim to take each individual person on a case by case basis. If I encountered a collective group of Roman Catholic priests, I'd be uncomfortable,I'd hide my son away! ( I'm half joking.)

An individual Muslim is indeed that. I don't know and can't quantify the views and strength of those religious views across the entire faith. I therefore talk in general terms. Generally, I find the faith uncomfortable. If I encountered a young Muslim male I'd be curious of his views and how they aligned with mine and my current freedoms. Would their country of origin feed into that? Yes possibly, if they originated from Iraq for example. I could never know their position though unless they outwardly communicated it.

I couldn't possibly say every Muslim is xyz. What I can say and do say is I have a problem with the RELIGION of Islam and what it espouses.

That is not hatred.

Why is the religion of the overwhelmingly British white groomers kept hidden?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/15/child-sexual-abuse-gangs-white-men-home-office-report

In law yes we do have as much freedom and we are a progressive country

unfortunately many Muslim countries have stepped back

live in a Muslim country even a moderate Muslim country you will soon appreciate how much freedom we do have here

Because it is the fact that they are Muslim/pakistani/brown that prevented action from being taken sooner - because of fears of being accused of racism.

This is the point the whataboutery is missing . Yes we know there are also white rape gangs (I refuse to call them grooming gangs) but the police don’t take a softly softly approach.

It’s the two-tier policing that’s the problem with the Muslim rape gangs.

This whole scandal should absolutely be blown wide open. That these girls were treated like second class citizens by malevolent men who thought they could, has to be addressed and dealt with. If we hide behind political correctness it is a sure fire way for women's rights in the UK to become less important.

I'm sorry but crime rates in Muslim countries of similar wealth to the UK are so incredibly low. These countries are exceptionally safe for women,

😳 Are you out of your mind? You think low reporting of domestic abuse= safe for women?

Are these countries democracies? Or do you think there might be a reason that people are fearful to commit crimes?

Another report which doesn't actually show the numbers per capita. I suggest you also look at the same conviction figures two or three years from now, when the fear of racism has now been removed from police.

It's because they are trying to describe a specific group of crimes and criminals. Not say, white biker gangs pimping out young women. Or Christian/Hindu/Buddhist Asian grooming gangs (because as far as I know these don't exist.)

People seemed ready enough to point out Catholic sex scandals, or for that matter, some of the weird Mormon sects marrying multiple young girls to older men.

I would favour Sharia punishments for these men.

It's not hidden, it's completely understood in a country which has a white majority. These white grooming shits haven't been ignored by a whole raft of police, charity workers, social workers, councillors and politicians for forty years, have they?

“In Arab and Islamic countries, domestic violence is not yet considered a major concern despite its increasing frequency and serious consequences. Surveys in Egypt, Palestine, Israel and Tunisia show that at least one out of three women is beaten by her husband.”