Grooming gangs being labelled as "Muslim grooming gangs"

[Olga009933]

Why is religious heritage of child sex offenders only mentioned in headlines when the offenders are of south Asian and predominantly Muslim heritage.
Why not just label them as "grooming gangs" or "Asian grooming gangs" (if wanting to be be specific).
Just thinking and wondering about the thousands of white British and presumably non-Muslim sex offenders who make the news. How many of them are labelled "Christian sex attacker" or "Jewish pervert" etc? Why is the religious heritage of a sex offender only mentioned why the offenders are of Muslim background?
If mentioning religion for one particular demographic then surely its only fair to mention the religious heritage of them all?

But the gang in question was a Muslim one, no?

You've cherry picked information from this article:

"So, in this specific category, there is a disproportionate representation to the number of Pakistanis in the population."

Why it states in this specific category is poor reporting though, given both categories there is a disproportionate representation to the number of Pakistanis in the population (3.9% and 6.9% respectively versus 2.7% in the general population).

Edited (hit post by accident): So while it's not predominantly Pakistani men (although many still under investigation that may change the figures reported), there's a disproportionate number of Pakistani men committing these atrocities on a population level.

This seems so bloody arrogant to me.

You got jaded and exhausted by the fact that you were an unexpected insert into casual beliefs and people wanted to engage with you on it.

If it was sooo exhausting explaining to the Little Englanders then say nothing in the first place?

I understand that, but some posters are saying things like the word "Muslim" is acceptable but then talking about their "ethnicity".
And "predominantly" doesn't mean "all". I agree with other posters who have said this is more about the offenders' culture and ethnicity.

@whippy1981 I think you missed the point there. There are often either marriages within a family eg cousins or very close marriages and communities are tight knit.
Someone trying to report their own cousin or uncle whose also their whatever is harder than reporting someone with no or few ties.

Wrong again

This!

OP, instead of being mad at these men being correctly identified, why aren’t you just mad at them for committing the crimes?

Yes I agree all rapists and sex offenders are dangerous. The danger to the victim posed by the rapist as an individual is not necessarily different in any case. In one scenario however, you'll potentially deal with the added pressure from Police and other services ( education, social services) to shut up and put up based on the perpetrator being of a particular ethnicity and religion. The added fall out is this that I'm referring to. This I believe is more likely in certain communication and not across the board in the UK.

And equally, I believe if you're a young black man in London, you're more likely to be stopped by the Police than a white peer . I can also believe you'd be given a harsher sentence because of this. I don't know how bad that outcome is here in the UK; in America certainly so.

All these things can be true.

You have missed the point of the entire thread and the entire issue. It's worth having a read again perhaps as to why this is different.

Was it called Catholic abuse?

@JayJayEl raises this earlier because I did not know Muslims consider themselves to be born Muslim.

So that really confuses things. In the UK now at least you would say you are raised in a certain way not born.

@Olga009933 denial of facts and reality a problem for you op? Do you follow a religion yourself?

Well catholic nuns, priests, schools, churches, boarding school?? Yes!

I think it's the 'gang' issue. The sense of a group of men who clubbed together and had this plan, but operated under the guise of being 'good' guys, going to the mosque together, being family men. In Oxford we had a group of the very top respected elders and strong family guys of the mosque who had a whole racket going on where they took vulnerable girls from a local authority care home, for cash, and took them at night somewhere, they were 'used' by multiple guys, forced to have abortions, etc, then returned to the care home. And these girls were white, parentless girls aged from 13 or so. This was such a cynical operation, and part of its success depended upon respect for the ostensibly religious decency of the perpetrators. In this case, I think it was reasonable to mention their religion. If there were gangs of men of another religion who had this co-ordinated plan, then fair enough, mention that religion too.

For example, Catholic priests have been, rightly, outed for some of their homosexual abuse rackets.

Yes

Both the religion (Islam) and ethnicity (Pakistani) is relevant in why victims were selected, who the perpetrators were and why it was covered up.

Did you miss 15 years of news & media headlines about Catholic Church priest sex abuse? Books, movies, documentaries, podcasts?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-44209971.amp

BBC says the word catholic many many times

Please refer to my earlier comments. I'm just as sickened and disgusted by those gangs as anybody else on here. I'm simply adding that people have preconceived ideas of who Muslims are is unhelpful.

Do you think women have as much freedom as men in Islamic cultures?

Exactly,

Some police used 'community cohesion' as an excuse; but this doesn't mean that the gangs were allowed to get away with rape and abuse because of 'woke liberals' favouring Muslims. They got away with it because the police and criminal justice system are very weak with regard to rape and violence against females at the best of times, and were particularly so here, because many of the victims were not just working class, but from very poor backgrounds: in some cases in care. And 'care' too often means the complete opposite.

You probably need to read up on this. Of course it was called "Catholic" otherwise how would you have differentiated it from the child abuse that happens everywhere. This led to changes in practices in the Catholic Church and some schools run by monks, due to allegations of abuse.

You think sex offenders (or white sex offenders) do not at times choose their victims and have a preference for a type of victim

This is presumably also true at the same time.

They may have been of Muslim origin but what they did was nothing to do with religion and most Muslims would be horrified by this.
They were mostly Pakistani men who in all likelihood were not religious.

Because the consequences for the everyday, normal Muslims are insurmountable. Yet another stick to beat good people with.

And the poor, poor victims are being used as bait for all the Islamophobes in this country.