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Mortified over 40th wwyd?

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dappledeverglade · 18/01/2025 15:40

NC for this.

I have a friendship group (8 of us originally) dropped to 6 lately with a few others moving away. We have been good friends for 10 yrs plus, kids were all in primary school together. The dc have gone their separate ways at secondary level, but the friendship has remained as strong as ever. We see each other regularly, and I considered them good friends.

My dhs business isn’t doing very well, and my hours have been reduced, and as a result we’ve had to really rein in our expenses.

My friends have done some great things for their 40ths and I’m the last. I booked a a morning craft class and we will make and take away the finished product, followed by a lunch in a restaurant that is one of the nicest in the area. I had planned to decorate it really nicely. Dh will cover the cost as part of my present. We will also go on holiday with dc in the summer, to a place that has historical significance and is part of my ancestry.

I sent a message to the group with the details last week, and friend A lets call her Joan said sounds great but this is your 40th let’s organise something better, and suggested a girls weekend away. Friend B agreed. Friend C chips in it is a 40th after alll. And so on. They have all now organised the place, the dates and are now looking at flight times.

I don’t want to go. I really can’t afford to go. The wknd isn’t even something I would like to do. It’s really mortifying that they think my idea is so bad it needs to be replaced by a new plan.

I don’t even know what to say and wish I could just cancel now. I am crying now, aware I haven’t replied for ages. I want to call it off. My dh feels awful and embarrassed. Wwyd?

OP posts:
WhatColourIsThatBalloon · 19/01/2025 11:29

deademptyduck · 19/01/2025 11:16

I get that you can't afford a trip away but the craft class sounds a pretty dire choice for young women in their 40's!! More like something you'd do for a 70th? Maybe a cocktail making class would be more fun?!

I guess it's a matter of taste but both your suggestions are similar types of group activities, so why does something that involves alcohol equal more fun?

Getitwright · 19/01/2025 11:30

At no point in my life have I deferred to the wishes of people such as work colleagues or here today, gone tomorrow “friends”. I treasure most the thoughts of those who I am really close to, my OH, my family, a few very very close lifelong friends, who know me well, would never dream of putting me under any pressure for their own self gratification. It means life is far less stressful, is under my control, and ticks along as my current circumstances suit. I hope the OP gets some resolution.

PenelopeSkye · 19/01/2025 11:30

I had a message this morning, sent late last night from friend B to say the group had tried to arrange something nice for me, and Joan especially had worked hard to make it special, and they were all ‘disappointed’ that I didn’t seem to like the idea.

Aaand there it is. Completely turned back onto you as the ungrateful one. Had it been a genuinely kind friend mistakenly thinking you might want something bigger arranging, they would at this point be saying ‘Argh so sorry OP, we were just thinking you might prefer to do something more memorable for a big birthday, really didn’t mean to hijack and your original plan sounds lovely!’

I have no time for Joans any more (well I have time for real people called Joan, I actually love that name!!), and no time for the people who pander to them either.

You have to try and not feed into it, it’s what they all crave. But also maintain your own dignity. I would not apologise. I’d reply something like:

Am grateful for the thought, but I’d already let you know what I wanted to do, and invited you all to it! The weekend away isn’t affordable for me and isn’t really my thing anyway. No hard feelings, catch up sometime soon, OP.

And then fade these ones out.

diddl · 19/01/2025 11:32

I'm not really a craft person so I wouldn't really be wanting to pay for myself or have someone pay for me & in my eyes waste their money.

But really it's the company isn't it?

Something you don't really want to do is acceptable, even fun in the right company.

Mermaidsarereal · 19/01/2025 11:35

You need to say something now before they all start booking, otherwise they'll be annoyed if you then say you can't go and they've wasted money on a weekend away for your birthday.

I understand you have money problems but surely if these people are your friends they would understand that you just can't afford to go away right now? You don't have to go into too much detail to them on why you're struggling with money.

It's rubbish that they're not happy with your choice of activity, however, crafting isn't for everyone (me personally, I'd love it but if I suggested it to some friends they'd decline) if you're open to swapping plans, could you maybe let them know your budget and if they want to they can find something that everyone wants to do?

CryJustALittleBit · 19/01/2025 11:36

PenelopeSkye · 19/01/2025 11:30

I had a message this morning, sent late last night from friend B to say the group had tried to arrange something nice for me, and Joan especially had worked hard to make it special, and they were all ‘disappointed’ that I didn’t seem to like the idea.

Aaand there it is. Completely turned back onto you as the ungrateful one. Had it been a genuinely kind friend mistakenly thinking you might want something bigger arranging, they would at this point be saying ‘Argh so sorry OP, we were just thinking you might prefer to do something more memorable for a big birthday, really didn’t mean to hijack and your original plan sounds lovely!’

I have no time for Joans any more (well I have time for real people called Joan, I actually love that name!!), and no time for the people who pander to them either.

You have to try and not feed into it, it’s what they all crave. But also maintain your own dignity. I would not apologise. I’d reply something like:

Am grateful for the thought, but I’d already let you know what I wanted to do, and invited you all to it! The weekend away isn’t affordable for me and isn’t really my thing anyway. No hard feelings, catch up sometime soon, OP.

And then fade these ones out.

Joan ‘worked hard???!’

My arse!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

OP like other apps, I knew they’d make themselves into victims !

Samzzzz · 19/01/2025 11:37

OP are these women even your friends? From what you’re saying, it does sound like you’re not very comfortable around them and you make some negative assumptions about what they are thinking/doing which are not really based in fact (like that they are messaging separately and Joan is complaining about you) so I can only assume there are other issues in the relationship which you haven’t disclosed which go back further. Frankly I wouldn’t want to even be friends with a group if I felt that way around them. Personally would either give them the benefit of the doubt or cut it off.

VexedofVirginiaWater · 19/01/2025 11:39

WobblyBottom72 · 18/01/2025 19:56

This happened to me over my 30th.

Mixed sex group of friends from uni days, we’d always done what the birthday person wanted. Tradition was we meet in pub/cafe (depending on activity time/type) and birthday person reveals what activity / venue is. Nothing was ever outrageous, but varied from comedy night to ice skating, painting plates and even a DJ class! I was the last to turn 30. None of us had kids then.

I’ve always loved dancing even though I’m rubbish at it. I wanted to go to a swing dance night. Checked before hand with venue and yes, they were happy for a birthday group of first-timers to come along. Ticket price was something like £3.

At the pub I tell everyone what we’re doing, said it’ll be fun and we’ll go on somewhere after as the open class was only an hour and we don’t have to stay all night.

Girl I thought was my best friend says “That sounds like sh*t. Anyone got any better ideas?” Someone produced a copy of Time Out and they sat there in a huddle planning MY birthday night. They decided on a new bar followed by burgers and then Ministry of Sound. I hate dance music, always have.

Stupidly I agreed.

Went to the bar with them but when we got to the burger place I just couldn’t face going in. I was at the back and watched them all climb the steps. My boyfriend at the time (of 10 years, part of the uni group) asked if I was alright, I said my stomach was a bit delicate and I didn’t feel up to a burger. He said he’d let them know and went inside. I waited outside for a bit, then left and went home.

On the last tube back I realised that as I watched them going up the steps I was seeing my friendships slip away. Sounds dramatic, but that’s just how it hit me. Even now, in my 50s I can clearly picture them all laughing and chatting as they went into the burger place.

I went home, on my own, cried myself to sleep and vowed never to attempt to celebrate another birthday of mine. I’ll do everyone else’s, I’ll even arrange it for them, I love helping people celebrate birthdays! But I won't do mine ever again.

When I met my husband he was happy to accept a cake, cards etc as a surprise from me for his birthday, but as he’s autistic it doesn’t occur to him to reciprocate for me. That both hurts and doesn’t. I’d love someone to do something for my birthday, but at the same time I’m scared to arrange anything myself in case the same thing happens again. So I’ve become known as someone who doesn’t do birthdays and no one bothers. I guess they think I wouldn’t want them to.

Stupidly I stayed in a relationship with that boyfriend and the group of uni friends for another couple of years after that. Until one evening my 30th came up in conversation and they all laughed at how it was a great night out and that they’d managed to blag their way into another club on the way to MoS by telling the door that it was my birthday and how great both clubs were. I pointed out that I didn’t go to either and they were astonished. No one had noticed I wasn’t there. Even my boyfriend who had left me outside the burger place and had gone clubbing without me hadn’t noticed I’d gone home alone. You’d think they would have noticed I wasn’t in any of the photos, but no, they didn’t.

So sorry to hijack the OPs thread, but please take this as a cautionary tale. These people are not your friends. Don’t try to appease them or persuade them to do your choice of birthday activity. If they really cared for you as a friend they’d do it without complaint or comment.

Go and do your choice of thing with your husband, or use the money you save from not paying for such ungrateful, spiteful maggots to do your choice of activity, to spend a weekend away with your husband - hotel or tent, whatever YOU choose!

Those women won’t become better, the friendship dynamic was faux, and fleeting at that. Your People are out there somewhere, they may even be here, on Mumsnet. But they’re definitely not the ones planning on a pricey weekend abroad to somewhere you don’t want to go, doing something you despise.

Don’t let them plant a memory of a birthday you hate. Because 20+ years later that memory will still hurt. And you shouldn’t be made to feel that.

Big hugs! x

This is so sad. Were they not embarrassed when they realised that you hadn't been there on your own birthday do and they hadn't noticed - especially the excuse of a boyfriend. I'm not surprised at how long-reaching the effects have been for you.

VitDgummies · 19/01/2025 11:39

OpheliaWasntMad · 19/01/2025 11:09

This is so true! The school gate “friends” are generally just for convenience and fade away when the children have moved on.
In my experience the school gate groups are horribly cliquey and tend to the sort of competitiveness, jealousy, bitchiness that I’ve never had in other friend groups.

Yeah exactly, while there are of course exceptions this does seem to be very much the vibe of school gate friends!

My mother is reacting quite badly to my mistreatment, and is busy planning the ‘best Scottish family trip’ ever according to her! 🙈 Perhaps I should have gone on the girls trip after all!!

Your mum sounds fab, OP! 😁I’m from Scotland and I’m sure you’ll have a great time.

Waterweight · 19/01/2025 11:40

If you want to be passive aggressive I'd let them book the holiday then message on the day telling them you hope they have fun & unfortunately you can't attend because of your birthday plans (as previously announced) but to bring you back a post card. Xx

republicofjam · 19/01/2025 11:40

deademptyduck · 19/01/2025 11:16

I get that you can't afford a trip away but the craft class sounds a pretty dire choice for young women in their 40's!! More like something you'd do for a 70th? Maybe a cocktail making class would be more fun?!

In your opinion, which incidentally appears to be the minority. Regardless, that's not really the point - OP's Birthday, OP's choice.

NotaRealHousewife · 19/01/2025 11:42

What don't they get, it's not Joan's bloody birthday?

thestudio · 19/01/2025 11:42

Whaleandsnail6 · 18/01/2025 16:54

I think you should post something along the lines of

" This whole thing (and now lack of replies) has left me feeling a bit crappy.

I made my birthday plans in good faith because I wanted to celebrate with my friends. I'm sorry that it wasn't any of your thing but I thought it would be a nice way to spend the day all together

the whole weekend away is not really me...I know it wasnt any of your intentions to make me feel bad, but its made me feel awkward and embarrassed so I think I'll just scrap the idea, it all feels a bit tainted now, like none of you would enjoy it and would only be there to keep me happy.

Enjoy your weekend away and I'll catch up with you soon"

Then leave any subsequent messages on read. Let them stew and reflect on how their behaviour has made you feel

OP, I really really think you should do this.

I suspect the majority of them are aware that they've all behaved craply and are looking for a way back.

nooooname · 19/01/2025 11:44

Love the response by @VisitingTrumpton - it takes all the air out of any game playing and lets you bow out very gracefully indeed. You do at least know now that these really aren't great friends at all, which as you say is useful to find out... Enjoy your birthday!

misskatamari · 19/01/2025 11:44

Im so sorry your friends have shown their true colours here.

as an aside, can people please stop with all the snidey shitty remarks about the craft activity, about how “it’s for people in their 70s” and such utter bollocks! Many people enjoy creative hobbies. Creativity feeds your soul! It’s fun! I’m 41 now and am excited about a relaxing Sunday crocheting and junk journaling. I’ve been crocheting since my 20s; and enjoy embroidery, sewing, painting, drawing, needle felting… as do many many many others of all ages!

if you’re not into being creative then fine, do what you enjoy. But don’t put down others who do enjoy these things, making out they’re lame and boring. There is art and skill to crafts, and the things people make are beautiful. It’s so depressing to see such negativity and put downs for literally no reason than to be mean to someone over their likes

dappledeverglade · 19/01/2025 11:45

Well friend E just txted (not on gc) to say she thought my birthday idea was lovely and she would have enjoyed it, would I mind if she took me out for dinner instead if it’s not happening? So that’s really made my day! Maybe not all is lost with all of them.

OP posts:
gertinthebackofthevan · 19/01/2025 11:46

I would absolutely love it if someone made the effort to organise a 40th weekend away for me, maybe they thought you would like that too..it's a shame they misjudged it but you can't blame them fully for not being mind readers or knowing how bad your finances are if you havnt offered up that information.

In the end you stand to lose a big group of friends who can be hard to come by....

Personally I'd prob be hurt
Be honest about my financial situation
And say you've had a rethink.

It might cost you your friendship group though which you might find more painful later.

anyuary · 19/01/2025 11:47

It really reminds me of the bit in Bridesmaids when the woman with the three sons forces them all to have the hen night in Vegas because she wants to get away and have a wild time. OP you are handling this brilliantly.

AlexisP90 · 19/01/2025 11:47

dappledeverglade · 19/01/2025 11:45

Well friend E just txted (not on gc) to say she thought my birthday idea was lovely and she would have enjoyed it, would I mind if she took me out for dinner instead if it’s not happening? So that’s really made my day! Maybe not all is lost with all of them.

And THATS how a real friend replies.

CryJustALittleBit · 19/01/2025 11:49

OP I would honestly dump them all. I think it’s awful how they’re all fawning over Joan - Queen Joan mustn’t be offended at any cost

devildeepbluesea · 19/01/2025 11:50

Just read all your posts OP and am frankly amazed that grown women can still act this way. As a PP said, being on MN really does open your eyes to some fucking terrible humans.

Thank goodness for your lovely family and friend E. Enjoy Scotland, it sounds lovely.

ButterfliesnWaterfalls · 19/01/2025 11:50

OP - don’t let it get you down. Learn from this experience.

They are not your friends.

Cancel everything and spend your birthday with people who really love you and want to be with you.

Don’t spend a penny feeding these so-called friends.

TheFifthTellytubby · 19/01/2025 11:50

misskatamari · 19/01/2025 11:44

Im so sorry your friends have shown their true colours here.

as an aside, can people please stop with all the snidey shitty remarks about the craft activity, about how “it’s for people in their 70s” and such utter bollocks! Many people enjoy creative hobbies. Creativity feeds your soul! It’s fun! I’m 41 now and am excited about a relaxing Sunday crocheting and junk journaling. I’ve been crocheting since my 20s; and enjoy embroidery, sewing, painting, drawing, needle felting… as do many many many others of all ages!

if you’re not into being creative then fine, do what you enjoy. But don’t put down others who do enjoy these things, making out they’re lame and boring. There is art and skill to crafts, and the things people make are beautiful. It’s so depressing to see such negativity and put downs for literally no reason than to be mean to someone over their likes

I think only one person was overtly negative about it. I did wonder if Joan had found this thread... 🤔😁
Edited to add - agree totally and just off to unearth my crochet hooks ...

Abouttoblow · 19/01/2025 11:51

gertinthebackofthevan · 19/01/2025 11:46

I would absolutely love it if someone made the effort to organise a 40th weekend away for me, maybe they thought you would like that too..it's a shame they misjudged it but you can't blame them fully for not being mind readers or knowing how bad your finances are if you havnt offered up that information.

In the end you stand to lose a big group of friends who can be hard to come by....

Personally I'd prob be hurt
Be honest about my financial situation
And say you've had a rethink.

It might cost you your friendship group though which you might find more painful later.

They're not organising a 40th weekend away for the OP though.

They're organising a weekend that they want.

OP had already organised what she wanted.

CryJustALittleBit · 19/01/2025 11:51

gertinthebackofthevan · 19/01/2025 11:46

I would absolutely love it if someone made the effort to organise a 40th weekend away for me, maybe they thought you would like that too..it's a shame they misjudged it but you can't blame them fully for not being mind readers or knowing how bad your finances are if you havnt offered up that information.

In the end you stand to lose a big group of friends who can be hard to come by....

Personally I'd prob be hurt
Be honest about my financial situation
And say you've had a rethink.

It might cost you your friendship group though which you might find more painful later.

You see I STRONGLY disagree here

Ive NEVER regretted cutting off a toxic friendship group even if it’s left me on my own totally with out friends !

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