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Mortified over 40th wwyd?

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dappledeverglade · 18/01/2025 15:40

NC for this.

I have a friendship group (8 of us originally) dropped to 6 lately with a few others moving away. We have been good friends for 10 yrs plus, kids were all in primary school together. The dc have gone their separate ways at secondary level, but the friendship has remained as strong as ever. We see each other regularly, and I considered them good friends.

My dhs business isn’t doing very well, and my hours have been reduced, and as a result we’ve had to really rein in our expenses.

My friends have done some great things for their 40ths and I’m the last. I booked a a morning craft class and we will make and take away the finished product, followed by a lunch in a restaurant that is one of the nicest in the area. I had planned to decorate it really nicely. Dh will cover the cost as part of my present. We will also go on holiday with dc in the summer, to a place that has historical significance and is part of my ancestry.

I sent a message to the group with the details last week, and friend A lets call her Joan said sounds great but this is your 40th let’s organise something better, and suggested a girls weekend away. Friend B agreed. Friend C chips in it is a 40th after alll. And so on. They have all now organised the place, the dates and are now looking at flight times.

I don’t want to go. I really can’t afford to go. The wknd isn’t even something I would like to do. It’s really mortifying that they think my idea is so bad it needs to be replaced by a new plan.

I don’t even know what to say and wish I could just cancel now. I am crying now, aware I haven’t replied for ages. I want to call it off. My dh feels awful and embarrassed. Wwyd?

OP posts:
OohThatCat · 18/01/2025 20:19

@WobblyBottom72 Broke my heart reading that, I really hope you have better friends now!

@dappledeverglade your original birthday plan sounds lovely, I’d have loved that. I hope you also find better friends, and you’ll have a lovely time in Scotland, I’ve ridden that train - can’t remember what side it is but you can probably google - one side of the train has the great views, and the other doesn’t as much, so if you pre book tickets, look up the views side of the train for that. Everyone will hang out the windows by the loos to get a picture of it going round the viaduct!

Twaddlepip · 18/01/2025 20:23

Weepixie · 18/01/2025 18:38

I agree. It’s very ugly.

Those posters sound like they have similar personality failings traits as the vile women in the OP’s group.

Readnotscroll · 18/01/2025 20:23

OP we did a road trip in a big motor car with our 3 and 7 year old to Scotland last summer and loved it!! Kids still talking about it, they really miss the van. Highly recommend!

MumWifeOther · 18/01/2025 20:25

dappledeverglade · 18/01/2025 15:40

NC for this.

I have a friendship group (8 of us originally) dropped to 6 lately with a few others moving away. We have been good friends for 10 yrs plus, kids were all in primary school together. The dc have gone their separate ways at secondary level, but the friendship has remained as strong as ever. We see each other regularly, and I considered them good friends.

My dhs business isn’t doing very well, and my hours have been reduced, and as a result we’ve had to really rein in our expenses.

My friends have done some great things for their 40ths and I’m the last. I booked a a morning craft class and we will make and take away the finished product, followed by a lunch in a restaurant that is one of the nicest in the area. I had planned to decorate it really nicely. Dh will cover the cost as part of my present. We will also go on holiday with dc in the summer, to a place that has historical significance and is part of my ancestry.

I sent a message to the group with the details last week, and friend A lets call her Joan said sounds great but this is your 40th let’s organise something better, and suggested a girls weekend away. Friend B agreed. Friend C chips in it is a 40th after alll. And so on. They have all now organised the place, the dates and are now looking at flight times.

I don’t want to go. I really can’t afford to go. The wknd isn’t even something I would like to do. It’s really mortifying that they think my idea is so bad it needs to be replaced by a new plan.

I don’t even know what to say and wish I could just cancel now. I am crying now, aware I haven’t replied for ages. I want to call it off. My dh feels awful and embarrassed. Wwyd?

I really don’t understand how these women could be classed as really good friends and they don’t know your finacial situation? I’m not saying they need to know in every small
detial, but surely you would be able to
mention that you’re currently going through a rough patch regarding finances?

This is all under the assumption they don’t know, and if this is the case, just be honest. Maybe they’d happily cover the cost for you between them as their gift to you? If you don’t want that, then again be honest and say you’d prefer something low key.

If they do know, and they’ve behaved this way, then they’re tactless and cruel.

Hope it all works out.

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 18/01/2025 20:27

They are a bunch of mean girls and you are better without them, I think your plan sounded lovely.
No true friend would take YOUR birthday and make it all about them and what they want to do.
It doesn't matter what they respond now, the damage is done and personally I'd have fuck all else to do with them
Spend your 40th with people who actually give a shit about you.
Scotland is beautiful, you will have a fab time.

SoundOfTheUnderground1 · 18/01/2025 20:29

This is a blessing in disguise, imagine if this hadn't happened, how much more time you would have wasted being friends with these women?

Joan is dreadful, the others aren't any better, they enable her bad behavior, classic queen bee/ servant dynamic. There's no real friendship in this group.

Moving on enables you to make space in your life for better friends. You're 40s are shaping up better already.

dappledeverglade · 18/01/2025 20:31

WobblyBottom72 · 18/01/2025 19:56

This happened to me over my 30th.

Mixed sex group of friends from uni days, we’d always done what the birthday person wanted. Tradition was we meet in pub/cafe (depending on activity time/type) and birthday person reveals what activity / venue is. Nothing was ever outrageous, but varied from comedy night to ice skating, painting plates and even a DJ class! I was the last to turn 30. None of us had kids then.

I’ve always loved dancing even though I’m rubbish at it. I wanted to go to a swing dance night. Checked before hand with venue and yes, they were happy for a birthday group of first-timers to come along. Ticket price was something like £3.

At the pub I tell everyone what we’re doing, said it’ll be fun and we’ll go on somewhere after as the open class was only an hour and we don’t have to stay all night.

Girl I thought was my best friend says “That sounds like sh*t. Anyone got any better ideas?” Someone produced a copy of Time Out and they sat there in a huddle planning MY birthday night. They decided on a new bar followed by burgers and then Ministry of Sound. I hate dance music, always have.

Stupidly I agreed.

Went to the bar with them but when we got to the burger place I just couldn’t face going in. I was at the back and watched them all climb the steps. My boyfriend at the time (of 10 years, part of the uni group) asked if I was alright, I said my stomach was a bit delicate and I didn’t feel up to a burger. He said he’d let them know and went inside. I waited outside for a bit, then left and went home.

On the last tube back I realised that as I watched them going up the steps I was seeing my friendships slip away. Sounds dramatic, but that’s just how it hit me. Even now, in my 50s I can clearly picture them all laughing and chatting as they went into the burger place.

I went home, on my own, cried myself to sleep and vowed never to attempt to celebrate another birthday of mine. I’ll do everyone else’s, I’ll even arrange it for them, I love helping people celebrate birthdays! But I won't do mine ever again.

When I met my husband he was happy to accept a cake, cards etc as a surprise from me for his birthday, but as he’s autistic it doesn’t occur to him to reciprocate for me. That both hurts and doesn’t. I’d love someone to do something for my birthday, but at the same time I’m scared to arrange anything myself in case the same thing happens again. So I’ve become known as someone who doesn’t do birthdays and no one bothers. I guess they think I wouldn’t want them to.

Stupidly I stayed in a relationship with that boyfriend and the group of uni friends for another couple of years after that. Until one evening my 30th came up in conversation and they all laughed at how it was a great night out and that they’d managed to blag their way into another club on the way to MoS by telling the door that it was my birthday and how great both clubs were. I pointed out that I didn’t go to either and they were astonished. No one had noticed I wasn’t there. Even my boyfriend who had left me outside the burger place and had gone clubbing without me hadn’t noticed I’d gone home alone. You’d think they would have noticed I wasn’t in any of the photos, but no, they didn’t.

So sorry to hijack the OPs thread, but please take this as a cautionary tale. These people are not your friends. Don’t try to appease them or persuade them to do your choice of birthday activity. If they really cared for you as a friend they’d do it without complaint or comment.

Go and do your choice of thing with your husband, or use the money you save from not paying for such ungrateful, spiteful maggots to do your choice of activity, to spend a weekend away with your husband - hotel or tent, whatever YOU choose!

Those women won’t become better, the friendship dynamic was faux, and fleeting at that. Your People are out there somewhere, they may even be here, on Mumsnet. But they’re definitely not the ones planning on a pricey weekend abroad to somewhere you don’t want to go, doing something you despise.

Don’t let them plant a memory of a birthday you hate. Because 20+ years later that memory will still hurt. And you shouldn’t be made to feel that.

Big hugs! x

Your post was so heartfelt, and I am so sorry to hear what happened to you. Since then you have never celebrated your birthday?
Please consider changing that this year, and telling everyone you feel like a change and would like to celebrate. Guide them with presents, and choose a way to mark the day that feels comfortable and not too much. Those uni friends should not be able to erase every birthday you ever have. 💐

I still haven’t heard from anyone else, and now my heart is hardening a little. I will sleep on it, but almost certainly I’ll pull the plug tomorrow, and be glad I found out what dreadful friends they are now, and not in 10 year’s time with a cancer diagnosis or a bigger emergency. Someone called them good timers, and that is a great summary. Good timers are not real friends.

OP posts:
User839516 · 18/01/2025 20:37

dappledeverglade · 18/01/2025 17:27

I have always wanted to go to Scotland and take dc on the Harry Potter steam train, and admire the castles and lochs.

Ooh I’m in Scotland too I’d happily go with you to a craft class and take you out for lunch! If you go to Islander in Edinburgh or St Andrews you can make your own bag and they are 😍 lots of gorgeous places to eat too!

IWishIWasABaller · 18/01/2025 20:41

These women are not your friends

Peachy2005 · 18/01/2025 20:43

Just say no more to them about your birthday. If any of them send you a message asking about it, just say you cancelled the plans completely as nobody seemed keen. Phase them out as they don’t seem like good friends at all, archive their chat when you feel ready.

Make a plan with any real friends and family who actually care about your birthday and what you want. Wishing you a lovely birthday and all the best xx

Agapornis · 18/01/2025 20:44

Happy to come to your London birthday craft class OP! I'll even pay my way!

Re puffins though, keep the breeding season in mind, April onwards, sometimes they're a few weeks later if the weather is rubbish. If you don't fancy going all the way to Scotland or want more budget puffins, Flamborough Head & Bempton Cliffs in Yorkshire are good.

Cotonsugar · 18/01/2025 20:44

These are not good people. End of story 😢

MissAmbrosia · 18/01/2025 20:45

These are your friends though. I can't see why it's so difficult. You just send a message to the group saying - sorry - lovely idea to go abroad but can't manage at the mo. If no one is up for the crafts, lets just do a nice lunch. Presumably from what you said you didn't go away for all the other birthdays? I expect no-one is answering as they all feel awkward now and are waiting to hear from you.

BriceNobeslovesMurielHeslop · 18/01/2025 20:50

They have majorly dropped the ball here @dappledeverglade , I’m sorry you feel so sad. Joan sounds like a bit of an arse but do the others have form for this kind of thing?

CryJustALittleBit · 18/01/2025 20:54

Peachy2005 · 18/01/2025 20:43

Just say no more to them about your birthday. If any of them send you a message asking about it, just say you cancelled the plans completely as nobody seemed keen. Phase them out as they don’t seem like good friends at all, archive their chat when you feel ready.

Make a plan with any real friends and family who actually care about your birthday and what you want. Wishing you a lovely birthday and all the best xx

To be honest OP I agree with this post.

I think it would show your so called ‘friends’ that you’re more confident, resilient and had a

‘long ‘air, don’t care’ attitude Grin

if you just now stopped communicating altogether and just see what happens. If anything, it would be a useful information gathering exercise to see how they respond to your silence ! You’ll have a better idea. for instance, if whether or not they’ve got a separate What’s App group that doesn’t include you if you go silent for a few days and totally wait for them to initiate

You also say upthread that your attitude is starting to harden - personally I think this is a good sign

Edwina8320 · 18/01/2025 20:54

They are your friend. Just be honest.

Rinkytoo · 18/01/2025 20:57

So strange that they’re not responding to your messages OP
Enjoy your evening and I hope you manage to plan something with DH for you to enjoy celebrating with your family.

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 18/01/2025 20:57

Thats ridiculously unfair. Its your birthday you should totally be the one to choose what you'd like to do and where etc. Someone (ideally not you) needs to have a word with Joan.

TheBerry · 18/01/2025 21:01

YANBU to not want to go, but YABVU not to just immediately say “oh no thanks, honestly, what I’ve planned is what I want to do / I’m actually counting the pennies at the moment so don’t want to go on a weekend break” and letting it get the point that they’ve actually booked somewhere.

You need to tell them asap so they can cancel and recoup the costs. It wouldn’t have been a big deal at all if you’d said no thanks at the time, but it may be a bit weird now… you gotta do it though.

Maybe just be like, “so sorry, I’ve been checking the finances, and I just can’t afford it right now. Is there time to cancel? Or maybe you guys still go on the break and I’ll catch up with you on my birthday as I planned” or something idk. Tricky now that’s it’s gone so far, though.

dappledeverglade · 18/01/2025 21:04

Friend D just messaged to say ‘happy to go with the flow xx’
Not sure what to make of it, maybe there is a difference of opinion now about what to do. It’s still likely I will cancel, as the replies are so lacklustre. Go with the flow is not exactly enthusiastic is it? Sounds like she’s sitting on the fence to me.

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AConcernedCitizen · 18/01/2025 21:07

I'm going to go against the grain here OP. If your group always puts on a lavish occasion for their big birthdays, and you've suddenly gone for a craft session, I think it's pretty reasonable for them to find that odd and want to plan something better.

They should have involved you in the planning, obviously. But if they've all paid for you to do nice things on there birthdays, and you're just taking them crafting in return, you must see how that doesn't stack up?

You mentioned financial reasons for not doing something more lavish, but did you make that clear to your friends first?

TheFifthTellytubby · 18/01/2025 21:08

Edwina8320 · 18/01/2025 20:54

They are your friend. Just be honest.

Should there be a "not" in there?

rainythursdayontheavenue · 18/01/2025 21:08

I wouldn't take it too personally, OP. They got carried away, and you've pulled it back down to earth. Let them chatter amongst themselves and let the dust settle. I'd give it a few days and then ask for numbers so you can confirm.

Ohnobackagain · 18/01/2025 21:08

Bloody hell so vague aren’t they @dappledeverglade ‘go with the flow’ you could say ‘is that ‘go with the flow as in my actual birthday plans I want or go with the flow for Joan’s big weekend away 🤨🙄’

sonjadog · 18/01/2025 21:10

I think friend D's answer is completely normal, and now you are in danger of reading more into it than intended.

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