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Party bag gate part 2 - enter DH stage left

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JandamiHash · 16/01/2025 17:51

Original thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5252894-child-didnt-get-a-party-bag?page=40&reply=141398805

To all the baked potato loving legends out there who followed my original thread, I couldn’t resist sharing what I think is a rather funny update.

So I’ve been away for a work conference today and didn’t check my phone til 2pm. Amanda had called me again! And messaged to say “Jandami can you call me please when you get the chance so I can find out what to ask this magician?”

I assume she means she wants to find out if I’ll pay for a party bag. So I messaged DH (who is fully invested in the drama) laughing about it. I didn’t reply to her as had to go back in the conference (and still haven’t replied only just got home).

Anyway at pick up, DH was standing in the playground waiting for DS and Amanda sidled up to him and said “Excuse me Neil? Is your wife’s phone broken?” (emphasis on the ‘is’ apparently). He just looked at her, said “No” and walked off to wait at the other side of the playground 😂 the best bit is - his name is not Neil!

I can only assume she’s either micro dosing with hallucinogenics or is genuinely mad. Nobody normal behaves this way.

PS jacket potato with pancetta, cheese, soured cream and chives tonight 🤤

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JandamiHash · 17/01/2025 17:44

BTW no more news to report. DH didn’t see her at pick up and I’ve heard nothing else.

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Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 17/01/2025 17:49

Good. Hopefully she'll just drop it now.

thescandalwascontained · 17/01/2025 17:52

JandamiHash · 16/01/2025 22:13

Re feminism - the reason men wouldn’t discuss this is because the absolute bare minimum is expected of them, and they’re applauded if they meet the bare minimum, whereas women are chastised if they don’t plan for every eventuality and pander to every person around them. Women are expected to tolerate and accommodate arseholes all the time so yes I do think it’s being a good feminist not acquiescing to that all the time.

And I disagree that you don’t have to be mean to assert boundaries. The Amanda level piss takers are all the same. They have super high confidence and no qualms of making “cheeky asks”. And it works 90% of the time - because other people are just trying to be kind, or have an easy life, or don’t know how to handle such confident people. The Amanda’s also know how to put people on the spot - phone calls and walking up to people etc. it usually supports their piss takery. The problem is that the people they make cheeky asks of not only become hugely out of pocket or inconvenienced, their confidence and spirit is also crushed. So being forceful that you won’t take nonsense is the only way.

NOT that I’ve been mean. I’ve been more accommodating than she deserves.

And If your feminism is “be nice to all women no matter how awful they are” then I’m afraid we don’t see feminism the same way

For those that missed this post, especially those that are still harping on that OP should have bought 'the poor child' a £12 party bag because it wasn't his fault, it also wasn't the OP's fault or her problem to solve.

She was clear with the mum who couldn't be arsed to RSVP and just rocked up unexpectedly that there would be no party bag, but he was still welcome.

She was clear with the mum who had probably been waiting to see if a 'better offer' appeared for that day, and then rocked up when it didn't.

She was clear with the mum who spent all of £2 on a colouring book (when money is not an issue in their home).

She was clear with the mum who demanded a special pizza be ordered for her child, who wasn't expected, and who then proceeded to eat the special pizza herself and take the leftovers home for herself.

Not. The. OP's. Problem. To. Sort.

Hipalong · 17/01/2025 17:53

Redbushteaforme · 17/01/2025 17:34

I've personally not said that OP should have bought extra £12 bags in advance 'just in case'. What I've said is that, in this situation, I personally would have paid for an extra bag AFTERWARDS as a kind gesture to a wee boy who I had invited to the party and who was in no way to blame for his mother not RSVPing or for her subsequent actions.

Apparently, however, not doing this will teach his mother a life lesson and force the wee boy, who is a wet-wipe, to develop resilience (not to mention attracting admiring posts from the mean girls on MN who appear to revel in passive aggression online though hopefully not so much IRL).

Ye gods.

Ye gods is right. This endless battering of women with BE KIND at all costs. Be fucking kind to thw cheeky fuckers, be fucking kind and spend your money on random kids who weren't meant to be there, be fucking kind all the fucking time, out yourself last, have no boundaries, just BE KIND.

Please, kindly fuck off with be kind. We're done being kind. We're fine with not being kind anymore. You carry on, if you like. Lie down and stamp kind doormat on your forehead.

kimchisauchio · 17/01/2025 17:55

JandamiHash · 17/01/2025 17:44

BTW no more news to report. DH didn’t see her at pick up and I’ve heard nothing else.

don’t let this spoil your night OP

HalfaCider · 17/01/2025 17:57

Banrockmystation · 17/01/2025 16:53

Right let’s be honest, if you had genuinely just forgotten to reply and you were a normal person you

  1. would msg in advance even as you were leaving for a heads up.
  2. you would be very apologetic about your rudeness and beg forgiveness of party host.
  3. ask to take pizza home and offer to pay the cost of the pizza that you take.
  4. Never in a million years msg about a missing party bag! Just explain to your kid that you dropped the ball so suck it up.

the op has done everything right and actually the people on these threads that love to argue anything different are just the fact that they love an argument and to wind people up.
i often wonder if mumsnet employs people themselves to be deliberately argumentative to boost threads as some of the opinions are bonkers!

This! The CF enablers on this thread are ridiculous. Those saying Amanda should have been pandered to because, 'think of the child,' are simply giving her the green light to harass parents hosting the next party she does the same thing with. The next parent might not be as strong as OP and feel intimidated/forced to purchase something they can't afford/don't want to do. It is a shame for her son, but it was a party bag, not a trip to Legoland. He'll survive and learn you don't always get what you want (through no fault of your own).

OliveWah · 17/01/2025 17:58

JandamiHash · 17/01/2025 14:23

But why aren’t you being nicer to the violent criminals, maybe they’ve had a bad day?

Or perhaps they had neglectful parents who never RSVP'd for friends' birthday parties on their behalf when they were children, and the resulting lack of party bags has scarred them and driven them to a life of crime?! 😀

Cerealkiller4U · 17/01/2025 18:01

JandamiHash · 17/01/2025 08:16

I’m confused now..

Oh bless. Must be hard being so easily confused.

Ooof. Harsh…..

BlueFlowers5 · 17/01/2025 18:04

I think I would block her at this point.

canyouseemyhousefromhere · 17/01/2025 18:09

@JandamiHash
Thoroughly enjoyable thread & loving the jacket potato suggestions (poached egg & streaky bacon).

I second the 'don't be a walkover' campaign. I have a friend who once overstepped and I surprised myself by refusing her request to move in with us for'a few weeks' whilst she had some refurbishment work done. I told her I loved our friendship too much to risk it with such an arrangement (not to mention my marriage!). She was upset but got over it & the refurbishment went on for over 6 months 😱

I have just started watching Mindfulness Murder & one line stood out ...
"Just because someone asks you to do something doesn't mean you have to do it ".

Soitwillbefine · 17/01/2025 18:09

OP, I think you (and DHs) responses have been bang on! I have frequently told my kids that I think the world of them but in the grand scheme of things they aren’t that important to anyone else and that they are best to understand that early on.

This woman is an absolute CF of the highest order and I can’t believe she had the brass neck to turn up having not RSVPd. To then carry on with dietary requirements and party bag requests is utterly ridiculous. The people who surround her must enable this inconsiderate, entitled behaviour to the nth degree but none of that is your problem.

We once had a party for one of our’s at a bowling alley. A woman turned up
with her invited child and 2 siblings and asked if ‘Johnny and janie could join in’ I said I’d booked 2 lanes to accommodate the 11 invitees and my birthday kid so sorry no space. She said surely the others wouldn’t mind sharing a go and I said she was free to book a lane for them but unsurprisingly she didn’t.. She then asked if they could ‘nab a few chips’ and I said ‘no, the children ordered their food in advance and there wasn’t enough to share but she was free to order some from the bar. The bloody woman still didn’t get the hint and Johnny was sent to ask for a party bag and I said they’d all gone. He cried and his Mum still asked if I had a spare and I had to explain that no, I had done 11 bags for the 11 invited children. She made a big show of ignoring me for the next 5 years. And I was not f*ing bothered.

Some people are just rude.

Hoppingabout · 17/01/2025 18:13

Soitwillbefine · 17/01/2025 18:09

OP, I think you (and DHs) responses have been bang on! I have frequently told my kids that I think the world of them but in the grand scheme of things they aren’t that important to anyone else and that they are best to understand that early on.

This woman is an absolute CF of the highest order and I can’t believe she had the brass neck to turn up having not RSVPd. To then carry on with dietary requirements and party bag requests is utterly ridiculous. The people who surround her must enable this inconsiderate, entitled behaviour to the nth degree but none of that is your problem.

We once had a party for one of our’s at a bowling alley. A woman turned up
with her invited child and 2 siblings and asked if ‘Johnny and janie could join in’ I said I’d booked 2 lanes to accommodate the 11 invitees and my birthday kid so sorry no space. She said surely the others wouldn’t mind sharing a go and I said she was free to book a lane for them but unsurprisingly she didn’t.. She then asked if they could ‘nab a few chips’ and I said ‘no, the children ordered their food in advance and there wasn’t enough to share but she was free to order some from the bar. The bloody woman still didn’t get the hint and Johnny was sent to ask for a party bag and I said they’d all gone. He cried and his Mum still asked if I had a spare and I had to explain that no, I had done 11 bags for the 11 invited children. She made a big show of ignoring me for the next 5 years. And I was not f*ing bothered.

Some people are just rude.

Spongers hate it when they get found out.

Endoftheroad12345 · 17/01/2025 18:15

Love this thread and your updates @JandamiHash

I had a similar experience with an annoying mother at my 6 y.o’s party last year (to be fair her sins were far less egregious than Amanda’s) and posted here to a mix of hilarity and admonitions to Be Kind. No I won’t 😂

I’m in NZ and basic dominos here is $5!! I think it’s disgusting too but my kids love it

Endoftheroad12345 · 17/01/2025 18:17

I must admit I kind of admire the Amanda’s of this world for their sheer chutzpah. I would probably eat something I was allergic to rather than put someone out with specialist dietary requirements 😂

EveryOtherNameTaken · 17/01/2025 18:17

OP. You went out of your way to buy 'appropriate' pizza for somebody who wasn't coming.

The 'concerned mother' was literally negligent not RSVPing but blaming you for him being unhappy.

Entitled cow.

Ignore anybody on MN who says you should be more 'sensitive' to her mistakes.

fairytailcat · 17/01/2025 18:19

Fiver says little Manus/James has forgotten all about the party bag by now

Couldn't she just have ordered him a magic
Kit off Amazons?

Hoppingabout · 17/01/2025 18:23

I think if my child was vegan at such a young age I wouldn't make an issue of the food as well particularly making the host buy another pizza. It's probably not the child's own decision to be vegan but a parental one. (Unless it's for actual health reasons of course). Everyone has to eat food they hate sometimes just to be polite. I've seen vegetarians eat meat served by a scatty elderly hostess and everyone else was hugely impressed by their kindness and manners in not making a fuss. I know that's not the rule these days though.

Endoftheroad12345 · 17/01/2025 18:28

The person who made an issue of the veganism was the AmandaMother, by not RSVPing, and thus not providing info on dietary requirements, and then barrelling up and expecting her niche tastes to be catered for and then having the brass neck to take the food home. More front than Blackpool

ifIwerenotanandroid · 17/01/2025 18:39

nothingtoseehereatall · 17/01/2025 17:41

@JandamiHash Some of the replies on here are clearly by Amanda or Amanda-lites. You are awesome. In fact, I've developed a crush on you through these two threads.

So I'm saying - sorry to your DH but LTB and run away with me. There will be no party bags for guests who do not RSVP to our wedding.

I'm RSVPing right now, just to be on the safe side. I'll be there! Doesn't matter where or when, just have the party bag ready. And an extra one for DH. And one for the cat. Thank you!

Hope you're serving jacket potatoes at the wedding breakfast.

mathanxiety · 17/01/2025 18:39

MaryWhitehouseExperienced · 17/01/2025 17:17

I disagree with you - and the OP. I'm not at all interested in Amanda, but I would have bought a party bag for the child. I think that the adults in this sorry saga have behaved worse than the kids. For some of us none of this has seemed funny at all, just mean minded. Op is essentially a generous soul who has been encouraged to stoop lower than Amanda for the gratification of people who love creating MN drama.

But the bags were ordered in advance by the OP and made by the magician.
She ordered a bag for all the kids whose parents had responded to the invitation.
How was she to know whether James was coming?
Should she have ordered twice the number of bags in case attendees brought a sibling along? Three times the number in case some of them rocked up with their entire families in tow? How many extra bags should she have ordered "just in case"?

And she provided a vegan pizza which she ordered as soon as James arrived on her doorstep and she was informed vegetarian was no longer an option for him. The leftover portion of the pizza was purloined by the CF at the end of the party.
Should she have dashed off to the nearest shop to buy some tat for James?

The OP can choose to do whatever she wants to do with the glorious comedy material that she's been given as thanks for extending an invitation to James. It seems to me that she is a woman who is not in the habit of dancing to anyone else's tune.

anchoviesanchovies · 17/01/2025 18:45

@JandamiHash I’ve just come across this thread and had a very entertaining half hour reading through the original thread. Mostly just your updates as some of the absolute craziness posted by others was winding me up.

i agree with every single thing you’ve said about CF Amanda and loving the love of G&S and Motherland.. I’m secretly hoping you live in Berkshire and we can be friends! Oh, except for the baked potatoes, I’m not a fan sadly…

InterIgnis · 17/01/2025 18:46

Redbushteaforme · 17/01/2025 17:34

I've personally not said that OP should have bought extra £12 bags in advance 'just in case'. What I've said is that, in this situation, I personally would have paid for an extra bag AFTERWARDS as a kind gesture to a wee boy who I had invited to the party and who was in no way to blame for his mother not RSVPing or for her subsequent actions.

Apparently, however, not doing this will teach his mother a life lesson and force the wee boy, who is a wet-wipe, to develop resilience (not to mention attracting admiring posts from the mean girls on MN who appear to revel in passive aggression online though hopefully not so much IRL).

Ye gods.

I don’t care what lesson, be in it resilience or anything else, Amanda and her kid do or don’t take from this.

It is simply not OP’s problem.

I’m personally a fan of directness over passive aggression, online or off 🤷🏻‍♀️

ifIwerenotanandroid · 17/01/2025 18:47

@Soitwillbefine She made a big show of ignoring me for the next 5 years.

Win-win, then. Congratulations on standing firm.

BaronessBomburst · 17/01/2025 18:48

Has anyone suggested Marmite on a jacket potato yet? With enough butter to bring on a heart attack.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 17/01/2025 18:49

BaronessBomburst · 17/01/2025 18:48

Has anyone suggested Marmite on a jacket potato yet? With enough butter to bring on a heart attack.

Ooooh! Trying to taste it in my mind & can't decide. Needs cheese, I think.

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